Chris faildo's conditioning

[timfogarty]

If you've ever used a supplement, or weights to build muscle, lose fat, or get dry, then you're not natural. Period.

so, we are all in agreement:  there is no such thing as natural bodybuilding. 

[JohnnyVegas]

If you've ever used a supplement, or weights to build muscle, lose fat, or get dry, then you're not natural. Period.

"Supplements" are NOT drugs Bob.

Slight difference there.

[Milos_Sarcev]

is this the greatest conditioning ever on a natural:

discuss.

WOW...Chris look fat, I hardly recognized him...

Photos are probably taken after 5 year lay-off...

[MCWAY]

Clarence Bass is NOT natural.  Far from it.  He may not be using anabolics/testosterone but he's been known to use things like clen/thyroid drugs, diuretcs etc.  For a lot of naturals these drugs are not considered steroids because they don't elicit muscle growth.  The mind of a natural body is delusional at best. 

Let me guess: Your uncle's father's cousin's brother's baby mama's best friend (twice removed) sold him drugs, back in the day.

[Jeffro]

If you've ever used a supplement, or weights to build muscle, lose fat, or get dry, then you're not natural. Period.

So what's your opinion on Chris Faildo?  Imo no natural can achieve that type of conditioning with that hardness

[MAXX]

So what's your opinion on Chris Faildo?  Imo no natural can achieve that type of conditioning with that hardness

can. but not that big.

[MCWAY]

can. but not that big.

Not that big. The guy (Faildo) is 165 lbs, a middle/welterweight. It ain't like he's the second coming of Yates in his prime.

Again, what exactly makes it impossible to achieve 165 lbs. ripped (at 5'3"-5'6") drug-free?

By his own admission, he's going to have to crucify himself to come anywhere near the top of the 202-lb. class

BTW, who decided on 202 lbs as the max for this class, instead of 200 lbs even, as it was during the "Pumping Iron" days?

[MAXX]

Not that big. The guy (Faildo) is 165 lbs, a middle/welterweight. It ain't like he's the second coming of Yates in his prime.

Again, what exactly makes it impossible to achieve 165 lbs. ripped (at 5'3"-5'6") drug-free?

By his own admission, he's going to have to crucify himself to come anywhere near the top of the 202-lb. class

BTW, who decided on 202 lbs as the max for this class, instead of 200 lbs even, as it was during the "Pumping Iron" days?

yeah well 165 is alot at his height with that conditioning. hes really thick.

[chris faildo]

Hey Guys, you're still at it.  It's been great coming back to these Haters or should I say non believers.  My workouts have been insane after reading all of your FALSE opinions.  Keep it coming, i really do want to hit that 202 pro show, NATURAL of course.  LIFETIME BABY! Drug test me anytime.

[timfogarty]

Hey Guys, you're still at it.  It's been great coming back to these Haters or should I say non believers.

yes, you should say non-believers.

have you ever used thyroid boosters or  prohormones?

Thermolife claims that you use  Ecdysterone (20-Beta-Hydroxyecdysterone).  how is that not a drug?

[marcus]

Chick have there ever been any IFBB pros that never used ph/aas? 

[MuscleMcMannus]

Hey Guys, you're still at it.  It's been great coming back to these Haters or should I say non believers.  My workouts have been insane after reading all of your FALSE opinions.  Keep it coming, i really do want to hit that 202 pro show, NATURAL of course.  LIFETIME BABY! Drug test me anytime.

You're not natural, the general public and all the naive, impressionable newbies that buy your DVD's might think so but everyone else that knows the culture of bodybuilding and fitness knows otherwise.  You may not use muscle BUILDING drugs but you sure as hell use other things. 

[just_a_pilgrim]

What issue of FLEX would this be?

This is a while ago back when i bought them . 1996 sometime i think.

The comment was at the end of an article about the team universe competitors being natural and said, 'even Chris 'I don't need diuretics to get ripped' Faildo ay?

[marcus]

I love how he ignores all the important posts and just says "Thanks haters!" Keep telling yourself you're natural as long as it helps you sleep at night.

[Moosejay]

Not that big. The guy (Faildo) is 165 lbs, a middle/welterweight. It ain't like he's the second coming of Yates in his prime.

Again, what exactly makes it impossible to achieve 165 lbs. ripped (at 5'3"-5'6") drug-free?

By his own admission, he's going to have to crucify himself to come anywhere near the top of the 202-lb. class

BTW, who decided on 202 lbs as the max for this class, instead of 200 lbs even, as it was during the "Pumping Iron" days?

no, sly's weight in rocky III

[Moosejay]

Hey Guys, you're still at it.  It's been great coming back to these Haters or should I say non believers.  My workouts have been insane after reading all of your FALSE opinions.  Keep it coming, i really do want to hit that 202 pro show, NATURAL of course.  LIFETIME BABY! Drug test me anytime.

it is not possible for an opinion to be false, for your information

My opinion is that you are hormonized

[just_a_pilgrim]

To be honest, how many guys on gear do you see in that kind of condition?

That condition is mainly due to years and years of hard work to build that kind of quality into the muscle.

I'm not saying anything either way but a lot of people underestimate what is achieveable naturally over many years because hardly anyone does it, especially with relation to the quality look.

Chick is right though, taking anything for performance enhancing is what it is, saying something is 'legal' or 'not moral' is a bullshit excuse.

[Moosejay]

To be honest, how many guys on gear do you see in that kind of condition?

That condition is mainly due to years and years of hard work to build that kind of quality into the muscle.

I'm not saying anything either way but a lot of people underestimate what is achieveable naturally over many years because hardly anyone does it, especially with relation to the quality look.

Chick is right though, taking anything for performance enhancing is what it is, saying something is 'legal' or 'not moral' is a bullshit excuse.

You are very on about this.

Just bc someone looks outstanding is no reason to assume cheating is involved.

However, I always have a problem with those who consistently make it a point to tell you that they are natural, natural, natural.

I smell background motives here, always.

[MuscleMcMannus]

To be honest, how many guys on gear do you see in that kind of condition?

That condition is mainly due to years and years of hard work to build that kind of quality into the muscle.

I'm not saying anything either way but a lot of people underestimate what is achieveable naturally over many years because hardly anyone does it, especially with relation to the quality look.

Chick is right though, taking anything for performance enhancing is what it is, saying something is 'legal' or 'not moral' is a bullshit excuse.

WTF are you talking about? Do you think Chris Faildo is any more dedicated, any more vigorous in his training and diet than any of the great bodybuilders before him?  That condition is not mainly due to years and  years of hard work.  That's bullshit.  That condition is due to years and years of hardwork, dieting, muscle maturity yes BUT ALSO DRUGS!  I mean is everybody immersed in bodybuilding and fitness so clueless?  Shit look at the top guys from the 80's.  Look at some of the big names from the 70's and 80's.  Chris Faildo has managed to do what hundreds of dedicated PROFESSIONAL bodybuilders could only do before him with drugs WITHOUT DRUGS?  You my friend and anyone who believes this guy or any other "pro" is "natural" is clueless.

[marcus]

I've never seen a natural with raised vascularity like this.

[MuscleMcMannus]

You are very on about this.

Just bc someone looks outstanding is no reason to assume cheating is involved.

However, I always have a problem with those who consistently make it a point to tell you that they are natural, natural, natural.

I smell background motives here, always.

Of course there's background motives.  This guy's ENTIRE livelihood is based on his physical IMAGE.  This is how he supports himself, supports his wife, family kids, if he has any etc.  This is how he affords to buy that nice house with granite countertops and stainless steel appliances, this is how he affords to buy that nice new sports car or whatever the hell he drives.  It's ALL about IMAGE!  The whole fitness industry is about image.  Defending it, promoting it, lying about it.  If you can sucker people into believe you can attain what this guy has without drugs and by doing what he does and eating how he does...........hell we'd all be buying his "DVD's". 

I mean fuck man every time you turn on the t.v. there is some politician/some ceo or some athlete caught in a lie or some scandal.  Why is the sport of bodybuilding any different?  It's filled with liars.  It has been ever since steroids have come onto the scene. 

[The ChemistV2]

The way I look at it is this...Pro-hormones, even though they are sold legally, are virtually the same thing as anabolic steroids. They are modified testosterone molecules just like any other steroid. They will supress your own hormones and enable you to have supraphysiological levels of anabolic hormones. The Triacana supplement that was legal, is a thyroid hormone precursor, similar to the French version that bodybuilders in the 70's took and it will definitely enhance fat loss. Taking these substances isn't much different than taking regular gear and t-3. However, I believe Chris can honestly claim not to use anything you can't find at a health food store and he has attained amazing condition over and over, so you have to give him credit for having extreme discipline. I'm sure very people could take what he takes and look like that. My feeling is that you can take herbal test boosters,  6-0xo and stuff like that because they won't give you hormone levels beyond the upper end of the normal range. Once you take synthetic hormone that boost  you beyond the normal range, then you are "Enhanced".

[marcus]

Chris no one is denying you look great but you'd be better off to just admit to using even if you don't discuss how much. It's obvious you put a lot of hard work and dedication into building your physique but why lie about it?

[Brutal_1]

In all seriousness, I'm not even sure he cares about motivating "naturals" out there.  In fact, by claiming to be natural, he'll probably end up causing more to use drugs when they find they can't attain that look.    

And you can't use the whole strict diet/hard training/consistency crap?!  What...Chris is the first "natural" who has ever trained hard and consistently?!  

In the end it boils down to making a name for yourself, and making a buck.  And when i look at it that way, I can't blame the guy.  I mean, even if he were to go all out on drugs, it's not like he would do real damage on the pro stage anyways. So...good move  

[CQ]

Chris no one is denying you look great but you'd be better off to just admit to using even if you don't discuss how much. It's obvious you put a lot of hard work and dedication into building your physique but why lie about it?

Not saying he is lying, but professionally speaking he is way better of saying he is natural. Can be his 'niche'. Not dissing the guy, but at 165lbs obviously he won't be winning any shows or even picking up any big name sponsors. Being natural is in his far better interest.