i have no clue if thats jay 2 months from the 2008 mr O or thats from years ago.... it looks recent ... if it is from the last couple of days then he has it in the bag..... this time .....only because of his lower half.....
wolf has him pretty much on the upper half.... someone said in this thread that he has a great back...... no !!!!! jay has a big back not a great/dry/desert/dust/water free back........ it has no detail and seperation............. wolf can easily out class him by 2009 ......... if wolf brings up his quads glutes and hams.....and hopefully calves but he will never have mens calves.... looks like wolf will always have calves like gunter coleman dexter etc.... they increase in size a bit but never get a good shape like a calf should look..... wolf does not have a weak back !!!!!!..... he is just a pup........ he doesnt have probs with seperation nor does he have probs with width........ he has the potential to develop a great back wider than maybe anyone.......wider i said.....nothing else................