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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #150 on: July 14, 2008, 09:09:36 PM »
arent you a chiropractor or something ?
Think of it as charity
Hi black guy who robbed him.

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« Reply #151 on: July 14, 2008, 09:14:40 PM »
sounds like MJ needs to heal up and get back to the gym and start the cardio going  ;D

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« Reply #152 on: July 14, 2008, 09:55:55 PM »
I was at the airport with some friends waiting to see another friend off. Anyway this girl had her camera underneath her seat at the pub and this asian guy cool as you like walks up picks it up and walks away - before we realised it he was gone. For some reason my friends and I didn't feel we had to get out our AK-47s and hunt the bastard down - but then we live in a civilized country. Not saying I was happy with the outcome though.

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« Reply #153 on: July 14, 2008, 10:07:18 PM »
I was at the airport with some friends waiting to see another friend off. Anyway this girl had her camera underneath her seat at the pub and this asian guy cool as you like walks up picks it up and walks away - before we realised it he was gone. For some reason my friends and I didn't feel we had to get out our AK-47s and hunt the bastard down - but then we live in a civilized country. Not saying I was happy with the outcome though.

sounds like 'Full Metal Jacket'

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #154 on: July 15, 2008, 04:17:07 AM »
Dear Reality,
He was stalked as easy pickings by a predator. Unable to run? Hell even if he could I doubt he would have.
Signed,
Stupid.

hahaha well played sir

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #155 on: July 15, 2008, 04:24:06 AM »
Sounds Darwinish - the guy looking for the sick or old to prey upon. Thinning the herd, so to speak.



Does moosejay qualify for one or both?  ;D

Sorry. Couldn't resist. ;)

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #156 on: July 15, 2008, 03:03:57 PM »
arent you a chiropractor or something ?
Think of it as charity

I feel most charities are bs

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #157 on: July 15, 2008, 03:04:37 PM »
sounds like MJ needs to heal up and get back to the gym and start the cardio going  ;D

was until last surgery

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« Reply #158 on: July 15, 2008, 03:06:56 PM »
Sounds Darwinish - the guy looking for the sick or old to prey upon. Thinning the herd, so to speak. Sounds like the real cost was to your ego, rather than the pocketbook. Take this as a lesson, Moose, and move on. Shit happens, and revenge is almost never satisfying.  :)

/anyway, i'm sure you earn than $ before your 10 am coffee.

I will survive, chimpy 

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« Reply #159 on: July 15, 2008, 03:14:04 PM »

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« Reply #160 on: July 16, 2008, 11:05:40 AM »

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #161 on: July 16, 2008, 12:01:07 PM »
gloria gaynor?
You got it Pontiac.  :)

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #162 on: July 16, 2008, 02:51:36 PM »
You got it Pontiac.  :)

you are the site's resident scholar

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #163 on: July 16, 2008, 03:44:14 PM »
hey 240.

You know, until TODAY, I was ambivalent about your stance on guns.

Now, the more I think of it, I would have liked to gun down that little ####.

Angrie by the minute

Connecticut, btw

No matter the state, shooting people in the back with non violent crimes is a good way to end up in jail. Who walks out of a bank waving cash in hand anyway? I get cash, and put it in my wallet or pocket. A gun would not have prevented or solved this one, but some common sense and a keen eye about your surroundings could have. Live and learn I guess. The experienced must have sucked no doubt. 

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« Reply #164 on: July 16, 2008, 03:48:56 PM »
WTF 240 are you actually celebrating this 'fact'  ??? ??? ???

pistols are accurate as far as you can throw them; at STATIONARY TARGETS. good recipe for mishots, ricochets and crossfire  ::)

a bunch of witless trigger happy IDIOTS is the best reason I can imagine for HAVING gun control

unbelievable . . .

What's unbelievable is you clearly never bothered to actually research the topic before spewing such ignorance. Lets start with the basics:

The Cold, Hard Facts About Guns
by
John R. Lott, Jr.

America may indeed be obsessed with guns, but much of what passes as fact simply isn't true. The news media's focus on only tragic outcomes, while ignoring tragic events that were avoided, may be responsible for some misimpressions. Horrific events like the recent shooting in Arkansas receive massive news coverage, as they should, but the 2.5 million times each year that people use guns defensively are never discussed--including cases where public shootings are stopped before they happen.

Unfortunately, these misimpressions have real costs for people's safety. Many myths needlessly frighten people and prevent them from defending themselves most effectively.

    Myth No. 1: When one is attacked, passive behavior is the safest approach.

The Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey reports that the probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller: offering no resistance is 1.4 times more likely to result in serious injury than resisting with a gun.

    Myth No. 2: Friends or relatives are the most likely killers.

The myth is usually based on two claims: 1) 58 percent of murder victims are killed by either relatives or acquaintances and 2) anyone could be a murderer.

With the broad definition of "acquaintances" used in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, most victims are indeed classified as knowing their killer. However, what is not made clear is that acquaintance murder primarily includes drug buyers killing drug pushers, cabdrivers killed by first-time customers, gang members killing other gang members, prostitutes killed by their clients, and so on. Only one city, Chicago, reports a precise breakdown on the nature of acquaintance killings: between 1990 and 1995 just 17 percent of murder victims were either family members, friends, neighbors and/or roommates.

Murderers also are not your average citizen. For example, about 90 percent of adult murderers have already had a criminal record as an adult. Murderers are overwhelmingly young males with low IQs and who have difficult times getting along with others. Furthermore, unfortunately, murder is disproportionately committed against blacks and by blacks.

    Myth No. 3: The United States has such a high murder rate because Americans own so many guns.

There is no international evidence backing this up. The Swiss, New Zealanders and Finns all own guns as frequently as Americans, yet in 1995 Switzerland had a murder rate 40 percent lower than Germany's, and New Zealand had one lower than Australia's. Finland and Sweden have very different gun ownership rates, but very similar murder rates. Israel, with a higher gun ownership rate than the U.S., has a murder rate 40 percent below Canada's. When one studies all countries rather than just a select few as is usually done, there is absolutely no relationship between gun ownership and murder.

    Myth No. 4: If law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed handguns, people will end up shooting each other after traffic accidents as well as accidentally shooting police officers.

Millions of people currently hold concealed handgun permits, and some states have issued them for as long as 60 years. Yet, only one permit holder has ever been arrested for using a concealed handgun after a traffic accident and that case was ruled as self-defense. The type of person willing to go through the permitting process is extremely law-abiding. In Florida, almost 444,000 licenses were granted from 1987 to 1997, but only 84 people have lost their licenses for felonies involving firearms. Most violations that lead to permits being revoked involve accidentally carrying a gun into restricted areas, like airports or schools. In Virginia, not a single permit holder has committed a violent crime. Similarly encouraging results have been reported for Kentucky, Nevada, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Tennessee (the only other states where information is available).

    Myth No. 5: The family gun is more likely to kill you or someone you know than to kill in self-defense.

The studies yielding such numbers never actually inquired as to whose gun was used in the killing. Instead, if a household owned a gun and if a person in that household or someone they knew was shot to death while in the home, the gun in the household was blamed. In fact, virtually all the killings in these studies were committed by guns brought in by an intruder. No more than four percent of the gun deaths can be attributed to the homeowner's gun. The very fact that most people were killed by intruders also surely raises questions about why they owned guns in the first place and whether they had sufficient protection.

How many attacks have been deterred from ever occurring by the potential victims owning a gun? My own research finds that more concealed handguns, and increased gun ownership generally, unambiguously deter murders, robbery, and aggravated assaults. This is also in line with the well-known fact that criminals prefer attacking victims that they consider weak.

These are only some of the myths about guns and crime that drive the public policy debate. We must not lose sight of the ultimate question: Will allowing law-abiding citizens to own guns save lives? The evidence strongly indicates that it does.

This article fist appeared in the Chicago Tribune on May 8, 1998 and is reprenited here with the author's permission.

Dr. John Lott, Jr. is the John M. Olin law and economics fellow at the University of Chicago School of Law,

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #165 on: July 16, 2008, 04:54:09 PM »
What's unbelievable is you clearly never bothered to actually research the topic before spewing such ignorance. Lets start with the basics:



LOL another John Rambo thinking he'll save the day by pumping off a few rounds

delusional hero-wannabe gun nuts. you all must feel very safe  ::)

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« Reply #166 on: July 16, 2008, 04:56:56 PM »
LOL another John Rambo thinking he'll save the day by pumping off a few rounds

delusional hero-wannabe gun nuts. you all must feel very safe  ::)

Ah, ignore the facts and data and replace it with idiot babble. Good work.

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« Reply #167 on: July 16, 2008, 05:28:36 PM »
No matter the state, shooting people in the back with non violent crimes is a good way to end up in jail. Who walks out of a bank waving cash in hand anyway? I get cash, and put it in my wallet or pocket. A gun would not have prevented or solved this one, but some common sense and a keen eye about your surroundings could have. Live and learn I guess. The experienced must have sucked no doubt. 

Will, I don't know if you read the whole thread.

I was not 'waving' anything.

I have had thousands upon thousnads of transaction with no problems.

I am disabled witbone arm ,currently, making pockets impossiblke for me to use by my lonesome. Wallets, too.

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« Reply #168 on: July 16, 2008, 06:17:38 PM »
Ah, ignore the facts and data and replace it with idiot babble. Good work.
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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #170 on: July 16, 2008, 06:30:45 PM »
guns=goodness

Shut up.  If you had a gun, that thug at the bank would have taken it from you, along with your $100.
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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #171 on: July 16, 2008, 06:32:50 PM »
What's unbelievable is you clearly never bothered to actually research the topic before spewing such ignorance. Lets start with the basics:

The Cold, Hard Facts About Guns
by
John R. Lott, Jr.

America may indeed be obsessed with guns, but much of what passes as fact simply isn't true. The news media's focus on only tragic outcomes, while ignoring tragic events that were avoided, may be responsible for some misimpressions. Horrific events like the recent shooting in Arkansas receive massive news coverage, as they should, but the 2.5 million times each year that people use guns defensively are never discussed--including cases where public shootings are stopped before they happen.

Unfortunately, these misimpressions have real costs for people's safety. Many myths needlessly frighten people and prevent them from defending themselves most effectively.

    Myth No. 1: When one is attacked, passive behavior is the safest approach.

The Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey reports that the probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller: offering no resistance is 1.4 times more likely to result in serious injury than resisting with a gun.

    Myth No. 2: Friends or relatives are the most likely killers.

The myth is usually based on two claims: 1) 58 percent of murder victims are killed by either relatives or acquaintances and 2) anyone could be a murderer.

With the broad definition of "acquaintances" used in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, most victims are indeed classified as knowing their killer. However, what is not made clear is that acquaintance murder primarily includes drug buyers killing drug pushers, cabdrivers killed by first-time customers, gang members killing other gang members, prostitutes killed by their clients, and so on. Only one city, Chicago, reports a precise breakdown on the nature of acquaintance killings: between 1990 and 1995 just 17 percent of murder victims were either family members, friends, neighbors and/or roommates.

Murderers also are not your average citizen. For example, about 90 percent of adult murderers have already had a criminal record as an adult. Murderers are overwhelmingly young males with low IQs and who have difficult times getting along with others. Furthermore, unfortunately, murder is disproportionately committed against blacks and by blacks.

    Myth No. 3: The United States has such a high murder rate because Americans own so many guns.

There is no international evidence backing this up. The Swiss, New Zealanders and Finns all own guns as frequently as Americans, yet in 1995 Switzerland had a murder rate 40 percent lower than Germany's, and New Zealand had one lower than Australia's. Finland and Sweden have very different gun ownership rates, but very similar murder rates. Israel, with a higher gun ownership rate than the U.S., has a murder rate 40 percent below Canada's. When one studies all countries rather than just a select few as is usually done, there is absolutely no relationship between gun ownership and murder.

    Myth No. 4: If law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed handguns, people will end up shooting each other after traffic accidents as well as accidentally shooting police officers.

Millions of people currently hold concealed handgun permits, and some states have issued them for as long as 60 years. Yet, only one permit holder has ever been arrested for using a concealed handgun after a traffic accident and that case was ruled as self-defense. The type of person willing to go through the permitting process is extremely law-abiding. In Florida, almost 444,000 licenses were granted from 1987 to 1997, but only 84 people have lost their licenses for felonies involving firearms. Most violations that lead to permits being revoked involve accidentally carrying a gun into restricted areas, like airports or schools. In Virginia, not a single permit holder has committed a violent crime. Similarly encouraging results have been reported for Kentucky, Nevada, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Tennessee (the only other states where information is available).

    Myth No. 5: The family gun is more likely to kill you or someone you know than to kill in self-defense.

The studies yielding such numbers never actually inquired as to whose gun was used in the killing. Instead, if a household owned a gun and if a person in that household or someone they knew was shot to death while in the home, the gun in the household was blamed. In fact, virtually all the killings in these studies were committed by guns brought in by an intruder. No more than four percent of the gun deaths can be attributed to the homeowner's gun. The very fact that most people were killed by intruders also surely raises questions about why they owned guns in the first place and whether they had sufficient protection.

How many attacks have been deterred from ever occurring by the potential victims owning a gun? My own research finds that more concealed handguns, and increased gun ownership generally, unambiguously deter murders, robbery, and aggravated assaults. This is also in line with the well-known fact that criminals prefer attacking victims that they consider weak.

These are only some of the myths about guns and crime that drive the public policy debate. We must not lose sight of the ultimate question: Will allowing law-abiding citizens to own guns save lives? The evidence strongly indicates that it does.

This article fist appeared in the Chicago Tribune on May 8, 1998 and is reprenited here with the author's permission.

Dr. John Lott, Jr. is the John M. Olin law and economics fellow at the University of Chicago School of Law,

Epic copy & paste.  But google "John Lott Mary Rosh."  He has no credibility.

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #172 on: July 16, 2008, 06:35:21 PM »
Shut up.  If you had a gun, that thug at the bank would have taken it from you, along with your $100.

No, friend, I am not against others protecting me with guns.

Guys like 240 are good to have in society.

Oh, and please be civil. When you say 'shut up', you kinda lose, dude., right away ;)

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #173 on: July 16, 2008, 07:29:21 PM »
Ah, ignore the facts and data and replace it with idiot babble. Good work.

handguns are serious weapons: fact
handguns are innacurate beyond 15m: fact
shooting at a fast moving target on the street is dangerous and irresponsible: fact

go to a range, fire some handguns, and see for yourself - it's easy to talk big now, but I GUARANTEE when shit goes down and you've only got a moment to figure out whats going on, you won't be taking well aimed shots, you'll blow your load and empty that entire magazine into the crowd

handguns are serious business and should not be trusted in the pockets of 'Joe Dumbass' ESPECIALLY if they plan on firing it in public and being a 'hero' - this is real life not a John Wayne movie

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Re: Robbery...
« Reply #174 on: July 17, 2008, 05:19:40 AM »
handguns are serious weapons: fact
handguns are innacurate beyond 15m: fact
shooting at a fast moving target on the street is dangerous and irresponsible: fact

go to a range, fire some handguns, and see for yourself - it's easy to talk big now, but I GUARANTEE when shit goes down and you've only got a moment to figure out whats going on, you won't be taking well aimed shots, you'll blow your load and empty that entire magazine into the crowd

handguns are serious business and should not be trusted in the pockets of 'Joe Dumbass' ESPECIALLY if they plan on firing it in public and being a 'hero' - this is real life not a John Wayne movie

Well put, this man sounds responsible and knowledgable.  Agree with everything he said.