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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2008, 02:48:59 AM »
Most people blow whatever $$$ they get.

It's not if they were born rich or poor, it's human nature to always want more.

I don't know what it's like in the USA, but in OZ interest rates go up, many people lose their home or can't afford anything.

Why? They don't think of the future, don't save, buy everything they can, pop out some kids, live to the limit of what they earn and with credit usually live well beyond their limit, so when shit hits the fan they are fucked.

Or in this country full of stupid idiots, whinge to the government to bail them out so they can blow that money on useless shit.

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2008, 03:18:18 AM »
Most people blow whatever $$$ they get.

It's not if they were born rich or poor, it's human nature to always want more.

I don't know what it's like in the USA, but in OZ interest rates go up, many people lose their home or can't afford anything.

Why? They don't think of the future, don't save, buy everything they can, pop out some kids, live to the limit of what they earn and with credit usually live well beyond their limit, so when shit hits the fan they are fucked.

Or in this country full of stupid idiots, whinge to the government to bail them out so they can blow that money on useless shit.
Im in Oz too, lot of broke motherfuckers here, Petrol is $1.70/litre :-\  interest rates are soaring, its great for me renting my apartments out cause rents have hiked up to, but Australia is just to expensive to live in.

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2008, 03:21:06 AM »
Im in Oz too, lot of broke motherfuckers here, Petrol is $1.70/litre :-\  interest rates are soaring, its great for me renting my apartments out cause rents have hiked up to, but Australia is just to expensive to live in.

Epic negative gearing.

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2008, 03:26:31 AM »
Epic negative gearing.

HA HA HA Brutal monthly mortgage payments in Nov, Im on 6.5% at the moment, in November its going to be the end of my 3 year fixed rate, Im expecting a 9.0% rate :'( 

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« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2008, 05:02:06 AM »
This inability to handle money certainly isn't something that holds true for all those who grew up deprived.


I sometimes take my 7 year-old niece pony trekking in the mountains south of Dublin (I'm in Ireland). We pay €10 ($15) for about 90 minutes of her being walked slowly around a field atop a tired old retired racehorse. Like most little girls she's horse crazy and looks forward to these outings.

The guy who owns this small equestrian centre grew up absolutely dirt poor (relatives of mine knew him when he was a kid): no running water, no electrickery, no clothes other than charity shop hand-me-downs, potatoes for dinner every fucking day... but he adopted an attitude of self-reliance and careful money management.

His wife grew most of what they ate in the garden... he worked odd jobs on the weekend... he saved and invested... to this day his wife sells her home-made produce at various farmers markets around Wicklow.

His kids now work in the equestrian centre, they walk for miles home from school then clean and feed the horses, muck out the stables etc etc You couldn't meet more polite, respectful kids.


Only a few people know this, but the dude is actually worth about €300 mil... on Sundays him, his dowdy wife and scruffy children tour around their property empire in a brand new Aston Martin DB9. November, December and January they travel around the US and Australia.

During the week he drives a knackered old jeep and his wife drives an old fashioned mini... his kids don't get any pocket money, they have to earn it working minimum wage on the weekends.


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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2008, 05:20:10 AM »
it dont mean his broke, he just doesnt want to pay off his house.

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« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2008, 06:23:18 AM »
STOP!!!! Break it down...... ;D

ADD: Gymrat 75 beat me to it.  >:(   :)

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« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2008, 06:34:49 AM »
Well you learnt wrong.

It's got nothing to do with being poor, and everything to do with intelligence and culture. You don't see asians striking it rich and going broke a few years later.
Black culture isn't complex, and having 100 million is, put the two together you have a broke ass dude.



The perceived over-industriousness and intelligence of asians is fallacy.

Go to any casino, asians bring briefcases full of money and lose it at the craps tables.

they smoke worse than anybody=stupid

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2008, 06:58:10 AM »
The perceived over-industriousness and intelligence of asians is fallacy.

Go to any casino, asians bring briefcases full of money and lose it at the craps tables.

they smoke worse than anybody=stupid

Thanks.  There's a reason this site is called GetDumb. I took my mom to BlackHawk for a monthly $.25 machine day, and Asains were f##king off big money at the card tables.  Anyway...they do have an excellent suppport system...as far as assistance if someone hits had times, and they are good at living off of cash vs credit which is the real killer.   
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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2008, 07:00:01 AM »
Thanks.  There's a reason this site is called GetDumb. I took my mom to BlackHawk for a monthly $.25 machine day, and Asains were f##king off big money at the card tables.  Anyway...they do have an excellent suppport system...as far as assistance if someone hits had times, and they are good at living off of cash vs credit which is the real killer.   

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yeah, anyway you slice it, gambling is for dumb-asses.

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« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2008, 07:02:06 AM »
Anybody ever take a college course with some big-name athletes in it?  If you did you would see why these guys go broke after making fortunes.  They have the writing ability of the typical middle schooler and their math skills are even worse.  It's pathetic.  These guys probably don't even comprehend what deals they are signing.  

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2008, 07:05:26 AM »
Anybody ever take a college course with some big-name athletes in it?  If you did you would see why these guys go broke after making fortunes.  They have the writing ability of the typical middle schooler and their math skills are even worse.  It's pathetic.  These guys probably don't even comprehend what deals they are signing.  
the standard NBA deal is $70M for 5 years...unless your shaq and on $100M for 5 years
the ones that blow there $$ deserve it anyway, fuck em, being a "baller" in your 20's does not mean shit in your 30's

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2008, 07:09:50 AM »
the standard NBA deal is $70M for 5 years...unless your shaq and on $100M for 5 years
the ones that blow there $$ deserve it anyway, fuck em, being a "baller" in your 20's does not mean shit in your 30's

that is deal for the super star/elite player..far from standard  ::)

the average salary $5 million..stop making up stuff that you don't know about

"Mid-level exception
A team is allowed to sign one player to a contract equal to the average NBA salary, even if the team is over the salary cap already, or if the signing would put them over the cap. This is known as the Mid-level exception. The Mid-Level Exception for the 2007-08 NBA season is $5.36 million. Only teams that are over the Salary Cap can use the mid-level exception to sign free agents. The MLE as it is often called is $5.585 million for the 2008-09 NBA regular season

An example would be the Toronto Raptors' acquisition of three-point specialist Jason Kapono during the 2007 off-season."
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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2008, 07:36:00 AM »
NO THAT'S NOT IT...
YOU SEE THESE BLACK ATHLETES HAVE NEVER HAD WHITE ACCOUNTANTS IN THEIR LIVES AND YOU KNOW THE STORY...THERE IS NO THEIF LIKE A WHITE THIEF...

S&L SCANDAL ANYONE???
CORPORATE SCANDAL ANYONE????
REAL ESTATE MELTDOWN ANYONE?????
PENTAGON LOSING 5 TRILLION DOLLARS ANYONE???
IRAQ WAR AND THREE TRILLION WASTED ANYONE???
PETROCHEMICAL INDUSTRY ANYONE???
ENRON ANYONE?????

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NOBODY CAN STEAL LIKE WHITIE CAN...IF HE CAN'T DO IT NOBODY CAN

BEING BLACK ANYONE??
ROBBING CARS AND PEOPLE FOR MONEY THEN GETTING A LARGE STREAM IF INCOME??

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NOBODY CAN STEAL LIKE A BLACK CAN
THEY STEAL BIKES, KIDS TOYS DIAPERS, ALCOHOL, CHITLINS

YOU SEE BLACKS DID NOT GO TO SCHOOL, SO YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING "GIVE A DOG A BONE"

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2008, 09:08:21 AM »
Most people do not invest in the future.,  They live for the day.  That is how most people live.  They do not think about saving money for the future.  Not saying I made anything close to what this guy made but i have made quite a bit of money in my past and I didn't save shit for my future.  But I lived like a king till I was unable to make money physically anymore.  Now, I have to count on my brains which has made me fat and sloppy.  I do have a good inheritance coming but not until my last uncle dies.  So, everyday I think about my future and I will be saving and investing in it and making sure my kids have nothing to worry about and a few generations after that.

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2008, 09:46:17 AM »
Yeah but Keith I thought back in the day you invested your money with a fund manager or something and it was blew to shit? It was a few years ago you talked about it, can't remember specifics.

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2008, 12:24:09 PM »
Black people cant handle money because they never had it before and never knew anyone who had it or never had a relative who had some..

There is a LOT of truth in your statement. 

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Black guy who invests his disposable income instead of buying 'rims' 

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« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2008, 12:40:49 PM »
I don't think it is just blacks, but a curse of all poor people.  If you grow up not having anything you start to base your life on the materialistic goods that you don't have.  This becomes your model for sucess when it should be something like education.  Thus when this people fall into money they spend it to show they are successful.  They have no clue how to save, or realistically how much money they will need to live their entire life at a certain attainable level.  Hence the boats, houses, bling, etc.

It is a harder thing to learn than you think.  I grew up poor and when I finally started having "okay" money I blew alot on frivoulous stuff, than 2 years later got laid off of my job without a penny in the bank.

I learned the hard way.  But at least I learned.  

A hard lesson indeed, but you've got the knowledge now and not only will you not make those mistakes again, but you're also sharing the gospel with those around you.  Good on you, mate. 

I work my butt off, but by setting some things in motion years ago and by making one brilliant investment, I now can afford to live a very comfortable life.  Once things were rolling, I went out and bought myself a new truck.  My car was 11 years old and with snowboarding season coming, I needed a 4-wheel drive. 

I bought more house than we needed, but I got a 3200sf place for less than 2000sf homes were selling for just 2 years before I bought.  My neighbors with similar homes all paid $250-300K more than I did. 

Now, my home has no (what people call) 'upgrades'.  No fancy cabinets, countertops, or flooring.  The furniture is of decent quality, but comes from the clearance sections. 

I have to replace my front-door latch.  The one I got from Lowe's didn't fit the holes that were already drilled and Home Depot didn't have a decent selection.  You see, I'm very fine with 'basic', but not my wife.  So, we had to go to The Home Expo, which is the fancy version of Home Depot.  The whole store is set up like a model home and the moment we walked in, she began spending - "I want this, I want that.  What do you think of this?  They're better than the curtains we have at home now.  I hate our curtains, they're boring" etc., etc.     

All she wants is to let people know she's got money.  But here's the catch - SHE DOESN'T.  I told her that, for the most part, any money that's on 'display' is money lost.  I firmly believe in owning and maintaining a good home in a good location, but that's because real estate is the only thing that will appreciate in value.  But that's real estate, not the $400 curtains she wants to put in it. 

As long as people who suddenly have money continue to behave as though they've ALWAYS had lots of it, they'll never have anything and will end up broke and trying to live off their kids.

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2008, 02:48:46 PM »
How the Hell does this happen.

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« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2008, 03:02:00 PM »


most of the guys that have played in the NBA are doing pretty good, just because a few dumb fuck go broke you cant pick on a whole race, most nba players have side businesses, dont let the media fool you, sure latrell sprewell, vin baker, holyfield have had to foreclose, they should do a report on broke white ex NFL players.

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« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2008, 03:11:02 PM »
  You can take the negro out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the negro...

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that is the same logic that says every person from the middle east (non jew) is a terrorist/suicide bomber.
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« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2008, 03:12:40 PM »
every person from the middle east (non jew) is a terrorist/suicide bomber.

I think you are on to something Red Hook.

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2008, 03:22:48 PM »
The perceived over-industriousness and intelligence of asians is fallacy.

Go to any casino, asians bring briefcases full of money and lose it at the craps tables.

they smoke worse than anybody=stupid

yet the statistics showing them having higher levels of education and per capita income are concrete. But I don't expect anything better from you; I mean you seem to love making generalizations over your morphine deluded perception of the world. Like you determining they have poor habits because you saw them in some shitty casino.

Most of these athletes are of low intelligence which translates into not being able to handle money. I think it's safe to say finance ability is correlated according to race.

Oh, and Oprah and Jay-Z = exceptions. I'm taking about the general populations.

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2008, 03:32:24 PM »


Most of these athletes are of low intelligence which translates into not being able to handle money. I think it's safe to say finance ability is correlated according to race.



Bingo! At least they stimulate the economy with their spending  :D ;D

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Re: Forner NBA Star broke
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2008, 03:37:48 PM »
yet the statistics showing them having higher levels of education and per capita income are concrete. But I don't expect anything better from you; I mean you seem to love making generalizations over your morphine deluded perception of the world. Like you determining they have poor habits because you saw them in some shitty casino.

Most of these athletes are of low intelligence which translates into not being able to handle money. I think it's safe to say finance ability is correlated according to race.

Oh, and Oprah and Jay-Z = exceptions. I'm taking about the general populations.
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