Prisoner Trade

[Nordic Superman]

You seriously look daft here Hugo.

You don't know the details so won't give an opinion?

But you know everything on Zionism, meaning you can spout anti-Zionism opinions?

Sorry, but I doubt you know enough about Zionism past the anti-Zionism sites you visit. if that is the game you want to play.

You're either a muslim or a very well behaved dhimmi!

[Hugo Chavez]

I've told you all this several times.  You can call me whatever but attach something to it.  I keep seeing these posts that accuse me and sometimes BF, you've launched your accusation not long after the thread or post in question started.  Like "Oh, don't expect to hear from Hugo on this"  Well don't fucking be shocked when that kind of post gets deleted.  I've fucking told you all you have to do if you're so bent on getting my opinion, it's really fucking simple.  Ask.  If I didn't see it, start a thread and call me out.  Just say, Hugo, you socialist scumbag, I wanna know...

[Hugo Chavez]

You seriously look daft here Hugo.

You don't know the details so won't give an opinion?

But you know everything on Zionism, meaning you can spout anti-Zionism opinions?

Sorry, but I doubt you know enough about Zionism past the anti-Zionism sites you visit. if that is the game you want to play.

You're either a muslim or a very well behaved dhimmi!

I gave my opinion, did you not read it or did you not read into it   Also I know a lot about Zionism, most of my readings have been from Zionist writings.  Thanks for just ASSuming, but you're wrong.

[Hugo Chavez]

I swear to god BF, if you fucking post right way and lay out what Hugo will or won't do you're fucking banned, I don't give a shit, take your owning crap somewhere else.  If you want to talk about this fine.  You want to call me an idiot asslicker homo whatever, fine.  But no more of your "oh waaaa, hugo didn't reply, he has no answers... oh waaaaa, Hugo will probably just say..."

[Nordic Superman]

I gave my opinion, did you not read it or did you not read into it   Also I know a lot about Zionism, most of my readings have been from Zionist writings.  Thanks for just ASSuming, but you're wrong.

I can't find it due to all your flirting with BerzerkFury.

Re post it please senorita.

[Fury]

All this hooting and hollering from Hugo and he still has yet to address the question. Instead he references a story from THOUSANDS of years ago and manages to justify smashing a 4 year old child's head in with a rifle. Justifications like that lead to terrorist bombings and extremism.

[Eldon]

I swear to god BF, if you fucking post right way and lay out what Hugo will or won't do you're fucking banned, I don't give a shit, take your owning crap somewhere else.  If you want to talk about this fine.  You want to call me an idiot asslicker homo whatever, fine.  But no more of your "oh waaaa, hugo didn't reply, he has no answers... oh waaaaa, Hugo will probably just say..."

The words of an immature child..............






everyone listen up.....baby hugo says who can and cant play in his little sand box..


LMAO !!!!!!

[Nordic Superman]

Hugo,

I looked through the thread again. There isn't a response from you other than that ambiguous muttering about not knowing enough to formulate an opinion. Either that or I'm going blind? Which one is it?

[Hugo Chavez]

Jesus fucking christ... Why do you guys talk to me like I'm a fucking Jihadist or something...  Why on earth would you be like, Oh ah haaaa!!!  Look at the bad arabs Hugo, what do you have to say about this... What I have to say is when did I get on here siding with terrorists? 

Nordic, I put my opinion here, if this opinion isn't what you're looking for, I can't help, sorry.  I see everything in what I said.  Namely that I have absolutely no fucking clue of what all is true or false in that case.  If it did play out exactly like that, what did you guys want me to do, honest, side with the bad guys because I have issues with zionism... WTF is your logic in this?  I honestly don't get it.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=224313.msg3151080#msg3151080

[Hugo Chavez]

Was I not a few days ago totally making fun of Iran and Hez for photoshopping those images.  Because I have issues with zionism, you guys really do try to apply that either you're with us or you're against us bullshit don't you.  Fucking retarded. 


FUCKING FINE YOU STUPID ASSCLOWNS... I'LL NEVER FUCKING SAY ANOTHER FUCKING THING BAD ABOUT ZIONISM.... I LOVE ZIONISM NOW, I'LL JOIN YOU... You got me, like a fucking pod from space.  Now I feel so much better!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I'LL be just like you guys when I see some anti zionist prick now.

[24KT]

In this instance I think it has everything to do with Israel being shone in a good light.

I'm not sure where or how you got the idea that that story showed Israel in a favourable light.   
It barely mentions Israel other than to suggest Israel is engaging in direct intimidation and terrorism against Lebanese civilians. Israel's willingness to trade 5 live criminals who vow to go on fighting them, ...along with 199 tractor trailers of dead fighters for the bodies of 2 dead soldiers highlights the kind of arrogance & bigotry that causes israel to repeatedly make bad deals with it's enemies. How does an article that depicts them as having made a bad deal, or one that suggests they regularly participate in the terrorism & intimidation of civilian populations in sovereign states cast them in a favourable light? 

That's exactly what lefties hate the most.

Interestingly, the released terrorists have vowed to continue fighting Israel, see: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080717/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_prisoner_swap

Where's Hugo, Ozmo and Jag to throw in an opinion about this? Oh shit they can't bash Israel so they act like the thread doesn't exist!

A) Can't/won't speak for Hugo or OzmO, but maybe prisoner exchanges (originally initiated by Israel) are such an everyday occurence I hardly considered it news anymore, ...kinda like more failed policy in Iraq. it's the status quo.

B) Or maybe, since it is a thread started by you, the initial reaction is to simply pass it over for something that will contain something of substance, or something thought provoking, ...anything but more mindless trolling Islamophobia and hate mongering.

C) Or maybe I didn't even see it?

D) Maybe some of us simply choose not to argue with idiots because they will drag us down to their level,
...then beat us with their experience,

E) ...or maybe a combination of all of the above.

[Fury]

I can't even respond to the stupidity of Jag's post. You are THE dumbest person I've ever seen on this forum. Which isn't surprising, you're the same moron claiming a 160 IQ while being black. Yes, you are on par with Einstein judging by your response!

Nordic's going to have a field day with that post.

[Nordic Superman]

I'm not sure where or how you got the idea that that story showed Israel in a favourable light.   
It barely mentions Israel other than to suggest Israel is engaging in direct intimidation and terrorism against Lebanese civilians. Israel's willingness to trade 5 live criminals who vow to go on fighting them, ...along with 199 tractor trailers of dead fighters for the bodies of 2 dead soldiers highlights the kind of arrogance & bigotry that causes israel to repeatedly make bad deals with it's enemies. How does an article that depicts them as having made a bad deal, or one that suggests they regularly participate in the terrorism & intimidation of civilian populations in sovereign states cast them in a favourable light? 

I am honestly feeling queasy after reading this

It showed Israel in a favourable light because their actions displayed their value for human life and dignity (the Israeli soldiers were dead).

Somehow you've managed to change to positive into the negative by perversely suggesting the prisoner trade was to bolster Israel's "attack" and "terrorism" on Lebanese civilians.

You know nothing about Hezbollah obviously and their tactics of using humans as shields and fighting from civilian neighbourhoods. Israel unfortunately has no choice to attack Hezbollah from their positions, if Hezbollah chose to fight from neighbourhoods where their OWN PEOPLE live their lives, then what option does Israel have? Not to fight and provide an retaliation for the slaughter of it's citizens?

You're perversely pointing this trade as a tactic for Israel to bolster it's attack. But let's look at the FACTS - the Lebanese government rejoiced and the trade, literally giving the read carpet treatment to convicted terrorists, one being a man who intentionally crushed the head of a 4 year old girl.

Now, Israel, undoubtedly has cause the death of Lebanese children, this is something I'm not happy about, but considering the FACT, the gorilla tactics that Hezbollah use, which basically translates to nominating each of it's own citizens as cannon fodder...

I'd like to know where Israel specifically targets children and civilians.

I'm not even going to humour your A - E retarded questions.

"I'm not debate you cause' you're an idiot" - Jag
"I prey on fear and tragedy as a way of attaining income" - Jag's philosophy.
"Hezbollah and Lebanon are the victims - always, no matter what" - Jag
"Every political gesture of Israel, including the trade of prisoners for Israeli service men is a means to create an excuse to be offensive military" - Jag

[CARTEL]

Israel should have thrown a SCUD at that red-carpet affair they had for these murderers.

 

[24KT]

I am honestly feeling queasy after reading this

It showed Israel in a favourable light because their actions displayed their value for human life and dignity (the Israeli soldiers were dead).

IMO it shows an arrogant bigotry on the part of israel. It displayed the value they place on Israelis ... dead or alive, ...and highlights and punctuates the bigotted assessment that 2 Israeli carcasses are worth more than 99 tractor trailor loads of Palestinian carcasses and 5 LIVE enemies who vow to continue the fight. That kind of arrogance causes people to commit attrocities and injusticies against those they consider less valueable (non-Israelis), and can lead to major mistakes. Personally, I think Israel got ripped off in that prisoner trade. I would NEVER have traded 5 LIVE soldiers who vowed to continue fighting for 2 corpses. I know the price of fuel has gone up to such an extent that it is adversely affecting even the price of food, but I don't think those 5 guys could possibly have been eating Israel out of house & home, ...not with all the US taxpayer money the US sends to them every year. Israel & Hezbollah appear to be in an ongoing war. I just believe that in an ongoing war, you don't exchange LIVE soldiers for dead ones. LIVE soldiers go back to fighting, DEAD ones don't, ...and from my uunderstanding it is not the israelis who glorify martyrdom, so I do not see that as a fair exchange and I believe Israel made a bad deal. But it was their deal to make.

Somehow you've managed to change to positive into the negative by perversely suggesting the prisoner trade was to bolster Israel's "attack" and "terrorism" on Lebanese civilians.

I suggested no such thing.

You know nothing about Hezbollah obviously and their tactics of using humans as shields

Are you saying tonymctones is a member of Hezbollah? 
He advocates strapping kids to humvees to use them as human shields

and fighting from civilian neighbourhoods. Israel unfortunately has no choice to attack Hezbollah from their positions, if Hezbollah chose to fight from neighbourhoods where their OWN PEOPLE live their lives, then what option does Israel have? Not to fight and provide an retaliation for the slaughter of it's citizens?

My understanding is that the 2 IDF soldiers in question were taken on Lebanese soil.
Is that not accurate? If it is accurate, ...what were the IDF doing inside Lebanon?

You're perversely pointing this trade as a tactic for Israel to bolster it's attack. But let's look at the FACTS - the Lebanese government rejoiced and the trade, literally giving the read carpet treatment to convicted terrorists, one being a man who intentionally crushed the head of a 4 year old girl.

I'm not familiar with this individual, but I do know the article you hold in such esteem, that you posted in support of your crusade clearly indicated there is controversy surrounding the death of the girl. it has been alledged she died in cross fire. Was a post mortem done on the body? If so, I'm sure a forensics examiner could easily clear up any controversy surrounding the cause of her death.

Now, Israel, undoubtedly has cause the death of Lebanese children, this is something I'm not happy about, but considering the FACT, the gorilla tactics that Hezbollah use, which basically translates to nominating each of it's own citizens as cannon fodder...

I'd like to know where Israel specifically targets children and civilians.

I simply referenced the Lebanese article you hold so dear. It mentions nothing about Israel's policy with regards to children, but it does clearly state Israel's alledged telephone campaign of intimidation against the civilian populations of Lebanon.

I'm not even going to humour your A - E retarded questions.

Perhaps that's for the best. When you're stuck in a deep hole, ...it's usually best to stop digging. 

[24KT]

Israel should have thrown a SCUD at that red-carpet affair they had for these murderers.

 

{LOL}  I hear ya!
I can imagine how incensed Israeli officials must be to see that kind of a welcome for these guys.

ps: I think it was Iraq under Hussein who had all the SCUDs, not israel, ...but I could be wrong. 

[Hugo Chavez]

Kill Arabs... Kill them all.

[El_Pajero]

Kill Arabs... Kill them all.

you will roast in hell for this

[OzmO]

Kill Arabs... Kill them all.

Kill or be killed!   
 

[Nordic Superman]

IMO it shows an arrogant bigotry on the part of israel. It displayed the value they place on Israelis ... dead or alive, ...and highlights and punctuates the bigotted assessment that 2 Israeli carcasses are worth more than 99 tractor trailor loads of Palestinian carcasses and 5 LIVE enemies who vow to continue the fight. That kind of arrogance causes people to commit attrocities and injusticies against those they consider less valueable (non-Israelis), and can lead to major mistakes. Personally, I think Israel got ripped off in that prisoner trade. I would NEVER have traded 5 LIVE soldiers who vowed to continue fighting for 2 corpses. I know the price of fuel has gone up to such an extent that it is adversely affecting even the price of food, but I don't think those 5 guys could possibly have been eating Israel out of house & home, ...not with all the US taxpayer money the US sends to them every year. Israel & Hezbollah appear to be in an ongoing war. I just believe that in an ongoing war, you don't exchange LIVE soldiers for dead ones. LIVE soldiers go back to fighting, DEAD ones don't, ...and from my uunderstanding it is not the israelis who glorify martyrdom, so I do not see that as a fair exchange and I believe Israel made a bad deal. But it was their deal to make.

I suggested no such thing.

Are you saying tonymctones is a member of Hezbollah? 
He advocates strapping kids to humvees to use them as human shields


My understanding is that the 2 IDF soldiers in question were taken on Lebanese soil.
Is that not accurate? If it is accurate, ...what were the IDF doing inside Lebanon?

I'm not familiar with this individual, but I do know the article you hold in such esteem, that you posted in support of your crusade clearly indicated there is controversy surrounding the death of the girl. it has be
en alledged she died in cross fire. Was a post mortem done on the body? If so, I'm sure a forensics examiner could easily clear up any controversy surrounding the cause of her death.

I simply referenced the Lebanese article you hold so dear. It mentions nothing about Israel's policy with regards to children, but it does clearly state Israel's alledged telephone campaign of intimidation against the civilian populations of Lebanon.

Perhaps that's for the best. When you're stuck in a deep hole, ...it's usually best to stop digging. 

Your opinion is formulated on perverse grounds, IMO of course.

If tonymctones made that statement he made it, and it's a retarded statement.

I'm not sure about the whereabouts of the IDF soldiers, most likely it was on Lebanese soil. Does that give them the right to murder the men? No civil nation on Earth murders captives of war.

Everything I still said remains true.

[Fury]

Your opinion is formulated on perverse grounds, IMO of course.

If tonymctones made that statement he made it, and it's a retarded statement.

I'm not sure about the whereabouts of the IDF soldiers, most likely it was on Lebanese soil. Does that give them the right to murder the men? No civil nation on Earth murders captives of war.

Everything I still said remains true.

What Jaguar seems to be avoiding is the fact that those soldiers were captured alive and murdered after the fact. Which she has to in order to try to prove her absolutely retarded point.

It's funny that she justifies the smashing of a 4 year old child's head just because she happened to be born in Israel. 

By far the stupidest poster on this forum.

[Nordic Superman]

It's funny that she justifies the smashing of a 4 year old child's head just because she happened to be born in Israel. 

By far the stupidest poster on this forum.

The fact they she believes "alleged" alternatives, always bias in an anti-Israeli direction -- hmm... interesting.

[Fury]

The fact they she believes "alleged" alternatives, always bias in an anti-Israeli direction -- hmm... interesting.

I wouldn't be surprised to see that she was a Muslim. Poor blacks with sham business ventures and no future usually convert to Islam and blame their problems on anyone else.

Maybe she could go back to peddling cures for SARS with that criminal?

[Nordic Superman]

I wouldn't be surprised to see that she was a Muslim. Poor blacks with sham business ventures and no future usually convert to Islam and blame their problems on anyone else.

Maybe she could go back to peddling cures for SARS with that criminal?

Wouldn't be surprised.

I remember when this idiot was offending when I used the word "moslem", it being a totally inoffensive variant of "muslim".

Here being a member of the nation of islam would be fitting.