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Saudi man 'wins' 10-yr-old in deal with her dad
« on: July 21, 2008, 04:04:00 AM »
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/07/20/53414.html

Child marriage justified by islam:
Koran (33:21): “Surely in the Messenger of God you have a good example”

Muhammad having married Aisha at 6, consummating the marriage when she was 9 and he in his 50's.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 05:41:08 AM »
Do they do this today?

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 05:42:19 AM »
Do they do this today?

What?

Today as in 21 July 2008? Or today as in "our age"?

Yes, this story is a modern story.

Note the undeniable justification in the koran.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 05:48:07 AM »
What?

Today as in 21 July 2008? Or today as in "our age"?

Yes, this story is a modern story.

Note the undeniable justification in the koran.
LOL, yea Nordic, when you're talking something like 1200 years ago, when I refer to today you can take it as "our age"  Do Muslims take this story as a go to do it today?  I'm just curious, I don't know.

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 06:02:06 AM »
I used to work with an old (80+) yr old dude about 6 years ago. He said that when he was in Saudi Arabia in the 70's, his 11 yr old daughter was acting, up, so he asked some dude if he could give her away. The dude asked how much would he sell her for, and was dead serious in buying that little girl. That shook the father up, because was just trying to make a point to his daughter.

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I used to work with an old (80+) yr old dude about 6 years ago. He said that when he was in Saudi Arabia in the 70's, his 11 yr old daughter was acting, up, so he asked some dude if he could give her away. The dude asked how much would he sell her for, and was dead serious in buying that little girl. That shook the father up, because was just trying to make a point to his daughter.
that's terrible.  and probably not the coolest way to make a point lol, but terrible.  There is also no shortage of these things happening in many cultures outside Islam.  Even right here in America, there is a trade in young girls AND boys.  I've posted here many times on it and been ignored every time.  I wish it were just a problem with Islam.  I would have no problem making them the bad guy because I have no connection or love for any religion from that region so it would be great to have a singular villain here.  But the unfortunate truth is this happens all over.  disgusting.  You have to feel for the poor souls that, at no fault of their own, find themselves victims.

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2008, 06:49:14 AM »
LOL, yea Nordic, when you're talking something like 1200 years ago, when I refer to today you can take it as "our age"  Do Muslims take this story as a go to do it today?  I'm just curious, I don't know.

The story is dated July 20, 2008. Also, I made a thread last week about a 10 year old girl who was raped repeatedly by her husband and then divorced in Yemen. The only stipulation was that she had to pay the husband $200 for her release from continued rapings. Yes, it's a go head today. Just like the Koran gives the go head to target civilians in jihad.

Or the Afghan girl posted a few months ago who married the 70 year old guy at 12.  Or countless other stories of child marriage and pedophilia.

I used to work with an old (80+) yr old dude about 6 years ago. He said that when he was in Saudi Arabia in the 70's, his 11 yr old daughter was acting, up, so he asked some dude if he could give her away. The dude asked how much would he sell her for, and was dead serious in buying that little girl. That shook the father up, because was just trying to make a point to his daughter.

Mohammed justifies it!

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 06:53:02 AM »
that's terrible.  and probably not the coolest way to make a point lol, but terrible.  There is also no shortage of these things happening in many cultures outside Islam.  Even right here in America, there is a trade in young girls AND boys.  I've posted here many times on it and been ignored every time.  I wish it were just a problem with Islam.  I would have no problem making them the bad guy because I have no connection or love for any religion from that region so it would be great to have a singular villain here.  But the unfortunate truth is this happens all over.  disgusting.  You have to feel for the poor souls that, at no fault of their own, find themselves victims.

Very Well Said!!!

This type of thing unfortunately happens ALL over the world.


Couple Tries To Sell Baby
By Diana Lucio
Published: Fri, December 21, 2007 - 11:18 pm

The Escambia County Sheriff's Office put a couple behind bars Friday for trying to sell a 2 month-old baby for $30.
The Sheriff's office says 25-year-old Maghen Duvala and her boyfriend 23-year-old Robert Ellingson were arrested just before 5 o'clock Friday afternoon. Deputies say the couple tried to sell Duvala's 2-month-old baby to a couple of teenagers in a shopping center parking lot off Davis Highway."When we got to the parking lot where the teens challenge group was, we were told that this couple had driven up in an SUV and was trying to sell a baby to them for $30 dollars," Said Glenn Austin,Escambia County Sheriff's Office.

http://www.wkrg.com/local/article/mom_tries_to_sell_baby/8340/


Iowa Mom Gets Probation for Attempting to Sell 4-Year-Old Son to Pay for Wedding Dress
Friday, December 07, 2007

DAVENPORT, Iowa  —  A Davenport woman received five years of probation Thursday for attempting to sell her 4-year-old son to help pay for a wedding dress.

Marcy Gant, 32, was convicted in October of purchase or sale of an individual and could have been sentenced up to 10 years in prison.

Gant was arrested in October 2006 after offering her son to a retailer to settle a $200 bill for the dress. Police said Gant offered the trade at least twice.



Romanian couple arrested in Seville province for trying to sell their baby
Feb 19, 2008 - 5:18 PM

They tried to sell the baby girl to staff at the hospital where she was born
A Romanian couple have been arrested in Osuna, Seville, after they tried to sell their new-born baby to staff at the hospital where she was born. EFE said the father didn’t want her because she was a girl.

http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_15182.shtml


Police: Woman Tries To Sell 18-Month-Old For Prostitution

OMAHA, Neb. -- Omaha police said they arrested a woman for trying to sell her 18-month-old child into prostitution.

Elizabeth Harlan, 35, was arrested late Sunday at an apartment where police were called to check on a child. Police said when they arrived, the child was eating cigarettes and Harlan was passed out on the sofa.


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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 06:54:30 AM »
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Sahih Bukhari Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six
years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with
him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to wash the traces of Janaba
(semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were
still on it."

From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran,
1990 : A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby.
However he should not
penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he
should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as
one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister.
[...] It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin menstruation at
her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young
will have a permanent place in heaven. How it all began ( a long time ago in the isolated
deserts of Arabia) : Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr, Mohammad's closest friend
and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union with her
[Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his dreams, inspite of the
fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps you want to assume that it is
"normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child, and then ACTUALLY ask
for her hand at 6?

Is it normal for an oversexed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and concubines) to dream of a union
with a 4-5 year old girl?

Muhammad ( SAW ) was basically oversexed, his sexual relationship with Aisha is a special case,
which fits his strong need for a larger latitude to satisfy his sexual urge, as is witnessed by:

"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven
in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that
the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that
Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven)." [Bukhari.1:268]

When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her hand. Abu Bakr thought it was
improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed aside Abu Bakr's reservation by
saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref: SAHIH BUKHAR I7:18].

What happened to " there is no compulsion in matters of religion ?" Anyway what compulsion did
Muhhammad need being a prophet his word was law, he restricted men to only four wives when he
himself had more than four, that was a convenient exemption for Muhhammad.

So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9, the marriage was
consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI
1991:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .

The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at that time Aisha had contracted
some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Aisha was then socially and psychologically
still a child as is evidenced by the fact that she was still given to her toys, she was unaware of
what was happening around her, and her playmates behave as would the children at present times
[Sahih Bukhari 8:151,5:234].

Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was predominant [
SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd 1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to
be called the "mother of believers". If you are wandering, yes, the relationship was pedophilic.
When did the sexual relations between Prophet Mohammad and his child bride begin?

Unfortunately we do not have any video recordings of such events. Neither can we expect that there
would be any explicit statements regarding this. In any case it is certain that she had NOT reached
puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house, which in itself, contrary to the prevailing social
norms, is a tacit implication that he may indulge in whatever fantasies he may have had when he
asked for Aisha's hand. And Muhammad did have fantasies.

Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of
the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my
dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, BUT the Prophet would call them to join and play
with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for
'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari
page 143, Vol.13)

It is, however, very unlikely that Muhammad would have waited for the onset of the menses; or at
most it could have been just after the 1st drops. The evidence is necessarily indirect.

# His strong desire to "graze of the (tree) of which nothing has been eaten
before", as his other wives had not been virgins.

# Menses or fasting do not reduce Muhammad's desire and potency for sex. His
nightly rounds to his wives(lastly 12-13) did require more than average potency.

# New additions to his harem lead to intensive sexual activity, e.g. arrival of
Maria lead to increased, initial spurt of sexual activity to the neglect of others .

# The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to wash the
traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces
of water were still on it."

# Other wives try to please Muhammad by sacrificing their turns in favor of
Aisha.

# During his last fatal illness he cries: "Where will I be tomorrow? Where will
I be tomorrow?", seeking Aisha's turn.

Prophet Say: Marry Young Virgins Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I
got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have
married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the young virgins and for fondling
them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might
play with her and she with you?'

Silent Children : Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A matron
should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in
marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her
permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

Where sex is akin to a crime, silence is admission of your guilt. What a corruption of "fitrah" (
human nature).

What religion condones the destruction of childhood? What are we who daily avow our undying love for
Allah to do against a system that ruthlessly oppresses its youngest and brightest ?

What was Aisha's age? I have heard other figures ... (A question also known as: How many of your own
sources will you deny ? ) All the relevant sources (Bukhari, Ibn Hisham, Tabari, Ibn al-Athir, Ibn
Sa'd, Ibn Hanbal, etc.) maintain that Aisha was bethroted to Mohammed when she was 6, and the
marraige was consummated 3 years later.

'Mahommad - The Word of Allah' written by Anne-Marie Delcambre. (Anne-Marie Delcambre has a
doctorate in 'Islamology', and taught Islamic Civilisation at the Saint Joseph University of
Beyrouth in Lebanon). On page 69, it says that he was married to her when she was 9 years old.

Dates commonly accepted by scholars: Birth Muhammad(570), birth Aisha(614 or
1992). Bethrothal(620 or 621), Consummation of marriage(623 or 624). In particular the
"consummation" of marriage is said to have taken place after the hidjra in Shawwal 1 or 2.
Between 621 and 623 Asiha is said to have contracted a disease whereby she temporarily lost her
hair. (Ref 1)

She could not have been more than 10 years when she went to live in Muhammad's house. The fact that
she took her toys with her to her new home indicates that she was psychologically and socially still
a child. And the fact that she was allowed to play with DOLLS indicates that she had NOT reached
puberty by this time. ("The playing with the dolls and similar images was(is) forbidden, but it was
allowed for Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty."Fateh-al-
Bari page 143, Vol.13). Besides, there is also Aisha's own statement which implies that she had NOT
reached puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house[Sahih Bukhari 7.163]. I am sure she would have
been able to recount accurately as to when and where she got her first menses. Most girls do
remember such events rather accurately. (Refs 2)

What is "sick" is that Muhammad had started to dream of a union with Aisha already when she was 4-5
years old: "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you...(and) I said (to
myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen." He was to use a similar tactic when he wanted
to marry his step son's wife. A tactic which Aisha later came to understand as fraud, as in: "Aisha
said: O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in pleasing you." (Refs 2)


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It happens all over the world, sure. But it happens with incredibly consistency and in the public eye in Muslim countries. There's the difference. While the rest of the civilized world prosecutes and punishes people for doing it, Muslim countries welcome you with open arms and a pat on the back for landing a young one.

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 07:03:30 AM »
that's terrible.  and probably not the coolest way to make a point lol, but terrible.  There is also no shortage of these things happening in many cultures outside Islam. Even right here in America, there is a trade in young girls AND boys. I've posted here many times on it and been ignored every time.  I wish it were just a problem with Islam.  I would have no problem making them the bad guy because I have no connection or love for any religion from that region so it would be great to have a singular villain here.  But the unfortunate truth is this happens all over.  disgusting.  You have to feel for the poor souls that, at no fault of their own, find themselves victims.

Because, the reality is, America doesn't care about it's young or it's old. If they can make a buck off of them, that is the only deal. Also due to our media, we look at the news and hear of a kidnapping in Florida, but we say, "oh that's terrible", and move on, then the same thing in Montana, same response, until it happens to you, then, all of a sudden it should be a big deal, when in fact all three of those incidents are big deals.

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 07:05:45 AM »
Because, the reality is, America doesn't care about it's young or it's old. If they can make a buck off of them, that is the only deal. Also due to our media, we look at the news and hear of a kidnapping in Florida, but we say, "oh that's terrible", and move on, then the same thing in Montana, same response, until it happens to you, then, all of a sudden it should be a big deal, when in fact all three of those incidents are big deals.

The cases get massive media attention and hundreds of people always volunteer their support. It's a country of 300 million people. It's impossible to stop a couple dozen sick fucks from doing it.

Pray tell, how is it supposed to be stop ahead of time? The best you can do is put these people behind bars when they're caught, which this country does tremendously well.

While pedophiles and child traffickers are the biggest scum in the country (and viewed that way by everyone), in Muslim society they would be looked at as the norm and just everyday people who managed to marry a child for some kind of dowry.

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 07:15:35 AM »
LOL, yea Nordic, when you're talking something like 1200 years ago, when I refer to today you can take it as "our age"  Do Muslims take this story as a go to do it today?  I'm just curious, I don't know.

I've told you, the concept of the koran is that it is a perfect copy of the mother of books, which has existed for eternity by gods side.

The laws in the koran transcend time! That means, 100 years ago the laws were applicable, they are applicable today, and for the rest of time to come.

That means muhammads examples of how life should be lived are applicable today - for it is written in the koran:

Koran (33:21): “Surely in the Messenger of God you have a good example”

Very Well Said!!!

This type of thing unfortunately happens ALL over the world.

Haha, look at Little Miss Islamic Apologiser attempting to steer away the blame from islamic ideology!

Wow, utterly terrible, the fact you're a women makes it even worse!

Which of your examples have a common ideological base? None? ::)

You're a road block in the fight for rights for women the world over.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2008, 07:30:29 AM »


Which of your examples have a common ideological base? None? ::)


Most people would point out what that suggests for your theory about common ideology, ...but I won't.
Instead I'll opt for option B) and option D)   **********ker plunk**********
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2008, 07:37:33 AM »
The cases get massive media attention and hundreds of people always volunteer their support. It's a country of 300 million people. It's impossible to stop a couple dozen sick fucks from doing it.

Pray tell, how is it supposed to be stop ahead of time? The best you can do is put these people behind bars when they're caught, which this country does tremendously well.

While pedophiles and child traffickers are the biggest scum in the country (and viewed that way by everyone), in Muslim society they would be looked at as the norm and just everyday people who managed to marry a child for some kind of dowry.
I believe you missed the point "BIG TIME"

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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 07:38:47 AM »
Most people would point out what that suggests for your theory about common ideology, ...but I won't.
Instead I'll opt for option B) and option D)   **********ker plunk**********

Keep on not speaking out against islamis ideological premise for anti-womens rights.

You're such a good islamic apologist!

My guess: you = moslem || you = married to moslem
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2008, 07:40:25 AM »
I've told you, the concept of the koran is that it is a perfect copy of the mother of books, which has existed for eternity by gods side.

The laws in the koran transcend time! That means, 100 years ago the laws were applicable, they are applicable today, and for the rest of time to come.

That means muhammads examples of how life should be lived are applicable today - for it is written in the koran:

Koran (33:21): “Surely in the Messenger of God you have a good example”

Haha, look at Little Miss Islamic Apologiser attempting to steer away the blame from islamic ideology!

Wow, utterly terrible, the fact you're a women makes it even worse!

Which of your examples have a common ideological base? None? ::)

You're a road block in the fight for rights for women the world over.
That doesn't answer my question.  The bible is filled with things to do that people don't do today.  I'm not defending Islam, I couldn't give a shit any less about those stupid religions.  I was just wondering if there were cases today where this happens and is justified by what that lunatic wrote centuries ago?  If you don't know, just say so.

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2008, 07:55:37 AM »
That doesn't answer my question.  The bible is filled with things to do that people don't do today.  I'm not defending Islam, I couldn't give a shit any less about those stupid religions.  I was just wondering if there were cases today where this happens and is justified by what that lunatic wrote centuries ago?  If you don't know, just say so.

Huh?

I explained the concept and why muslims today must, and vehemently do keep true to the values in the koran.

It's ideologies cover every part of life.

The Bible and koran are very different in concept. The bible being more spiritual and ambiguous in its message, paving way to the many reforms. The koran is a definitive sources, reformation by mankind isn't an option, it goes against the very core principles of "what islam is".
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2008, 08:21:07 AM »
Huh?

I explained the concept and why muslims today must, and vehemently do keep true to the values in the koran.

It's ideologies cover every part of life.

The Bible and koran are very different in concept. The bible being more spiritual and ambiguous in its message, paving way to the many reforms. The koran is a definitive sources, reformation by mankind isn't an option, it goes against the very core principles of "what islam is".
huh, you still didn't answer my question?  Why?  I told you, the bible is filled with things that people don't do today, that's a true statement.  I directly asked you if you knew of people actually using the Koran to hook up with pre-teens?  either it is so today or it is not...  Many people today believe the bible, but they don't do all the things in the bible because they were done.  The huh is on you.  Well, do they do it today or not?  I want to know specifically if they look to do this today and reason it with the Koran?  It's a simple question.  You're approaching it from a theoretical.  I want to know the facts of it.  Again, I'm not being an advocate for Islam, I truely don't know the case here.

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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2008, 08:26:29 AM »
huh, you still didn't answer my question?  Why?  I told you, the bible is filled with things that people don't do today, that's a true statement.  I directly asked you if you knew of people actually using the Koran to hook up with pre-teens?  either it is so today or it is not...  Many people today believe the bible, but they don't do all the things in the bible because they were done.  The huh is on you.  Well, do they do it today or not?  I want to know specifically if they look to do this today and reason it with the Koran?  It's a simple question.  You're approaching it from a theoretical.  I want to know the facts of it.  Again, I'm not being an advocate for Islam, I truely don't know the case here.

Yes of course they do.

Search for yourself.

Cultures across the muslim world are directly shaped by islamic values.

The laws of many muslim countries allow the marriage to children - because of what the koran prescribes -  Pakistan, SA etc etc
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Re: Saudi man 'wins' 10-yr-old in deal with her dad
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2008, 08:28:31 AM »
huh, you still didn't answer my question?  Why?  I told you, the bible is filled with things that people don't do today, that's a true statement.  I directly asked you if you knew of people actually using the Koran to hook up with pre-teens?  either it is so today or it is not...  Many people today believe the bible, but they don't do all the things in the bible because they were done.  The huh is on you.  Well, do they do it today or not?  I want to know specifically if they look to do this today and reason it with the Koran?  It's a simple question.  You're approaching it from a theoretical.  I want to know the facts of it.  Again, I'm not being an advocate for Islam, I truely don't know the case here.

Hugo, there are dozens up dozens of stories about this. My thread down the page is about a 10 year old child that was just divorced last week from her husband who promised he wouldn't have sex with her until she was older. Apparently 10 is of age in Islam. The best part is that SHE had to pay $200 for the divorce because she didn't want to be raped anymore.

There was a story a month or two ago with a picture of a 12 year old girl who was just married to her 70 year old husband, who bragged about consummating the marriage in the article. The girl looked absolutely miserable. There are examples all over the place.

Pedophilia is embraced by Islam. Mohammed was a pedophile, and he is their prophet. He did no wrong.

Keep on not speaking out against islamis ideological premise for anti-womens rights.

You're such a good islamic apologist!

My guess: you = moslem || you = married to moslem

It's pretty disgusting. I'm definitely leaning towards her being a Moslem. Always blaming everything on Israel (even the release of a murderer who bashed a child's head in), defending Islam, trying to shift blame. Exactly what ideologists do.



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Re: Saudi man 'wins' 10-yr-old in deal with her dad
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2008, 09:35:27 AM »
Yes of course they do.

Search for yourself.

Cultures across the muslim world are directly shaped by islamic values.

The laws of many muslim countries allow the marriage to children - because of what the koran prescribes -  Pakistan, SA etc etc
Ok, I seached, I couldn't find any list of muslims marrying kids.  You do this all the time, can you point me to one please.  thanks.  Fuck Islam booyaa... just for my records you know... That way when I say kill them all, I can fact their ass ;D

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Re: Saudi man 'wins' 10-yr-old in deal with her dad
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 09:42:13 AM »
Hugo, there are dozens up dozens of stories about this. My thread down the page is about a 10 year old child that was just divorced last week from her husband who promised he wouldn't have sex with her until she was older. Apparently 10 is of age in Islam. The best part is that SHE had to pay $200 for the divorce because she didn't want to be raped anymore.

There was a story a month or two ago with a picture of a 12 year old girl who was just married to her 70 year old husband, who bragged about consummating the marriage in the article. The girl looked absolutely miserable. There are examples all over the place.

Pedophilia is embraced by Islam. Mohammed was a pedophile, and he is their prophet. He did no wrong.

It's pretty disgusting. I'm definitely leaning towards her being a Moslem. Always blaming everything on Israel (even the release of a murderer who bashed a child's head in), defending Islam, trying to shift blame. Exactly what ideologists do.



That's just wrong and dusgusting.  But you see my question, I can find this all over happening.  Like I said above, I have many times tried to bring light to this problem here and this thread has more posts than all mine combined.  Nobody gives a shit.  Anyway, what I want to know is if muslims do this using the Koran as a reason?  Is there more cases of this in Islamic followers who are reasoning with the Koran than appear in other cultures?  It's a fair question and one I do not know the answer to?

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Re: Saudi man 'wins' 10-yr-old in deal with her dad
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2008, 09:44:11 AM »
That's just wrong and dusgusting.  But you see my question, I can find this all over happening.  Like I said above, I have many times tried to bring light to this problem here and this thread has more posts than all mine combined.  Nobody gives a shit.  Anyway, what I want to know is if muslims do this using the Koran as a reason?  Is there more cases of this in Islamic followers who are reasoning with the Koran than appear in other cultures?  It's a fair question and one I do not know the answer to?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=224317.0

Yes, it's justified by the Koran and the Hadith. Mohammed is their prophet. He did no wrong. By him marrying Aisha at six and fucking her at nine, he paved the way for millenia of pedophilia.

I just had the link up but a women's rights group showed that over 57% of Muslim girls are married before the legal age of 16 in Afghanistan. It's incredibly commonplace. Girls that aren't even 10 years old are married off.


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Re: Saudi man 'wins' 10-yr-old in deal with her dad
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2008, 09:51:01 AM »
That's just wrong and dusgusting.  But you see my question, I can find this all over happening.  Like I said above, I have many times tried to bring light to this problem here and this thread has more posts than all mine combined.  Nobody gives a shit.  Anyway, what I want to know is if muslims do this using the Koran as a reason?  Is there more cases of this in Islamic followers who are reasoning with the Koran than appear in other cultures?  It's a fair question and one I do not know the answer to?

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=111892&d=17&m=7&y=2008

Last month a Saudi marriage official who appeared in LBC channel, said that girls can be married off by their fathers even when they are toddlers, but the consummation of marriage has to wait until she becomes 9 years old.
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