WHY COUTURE VS. FEDOR????????????

[BDsauce]

Do TUF fans care about the health risk involved being in the ring with Fedor? Tell me how does Randy win this one, please explain.

[Bluto]

He fought Sylvia.

It might sound like a big deal submitting him in 36 seconds until you realize Arlovski submitted him in 47 seconds and Frank Mir got him in an armbar in 50 seconds.

[Fury]

He fought Sylvia.

It might sound like a big deal submitting him in 36 seconds until you realize Arlovski submitted him in 47 seconds and Frank Mir got him in an armbar in 50 seconds.

And yet it took Randy 5 5-minute rounds to get a decision. What's your point, dipshit? Are you trying to say that Randy sucks even worse than Mir and Arlovski? Because that's what it sounds like.

Couture is the most overrated fighter on the planet.

[BDsauce]

Bluto how does Randy beat Fedor? I'm lost here bro.

[Fury]

Bluto how does Randy beat Fedor? I'm lost here bro.

Maybe he can fall asleep on him and hope for a decision? 

[TheIronWarrior]

Maybe he can fall asleep on him and hope for a decision? 

 

[Fury]

It worked against Sylvia!!!! 

[Bluto]

And yet it took Randy 5 5-minute rounds to get a decision. What's your point, dipshit? Are you trying to say that Randy sucks even worse than Mir and Arlovski? Because that's what it sounds like.

Couture is the most overrated fighter on the planet.

I don't see what commenting Fedors win over Sylvia brings to the table, do you?

[Fury]

I don't see what commenting Fedors win over Sylvia brings to the table, do you?

Well no shit, you're autistic. About two years ago it took Randy 25 minutes to eek out a decision against Sylvia. He's done nothing but get older since. Fedor just beat him in 36 seconds. Do the math, dipshit. I'm sorry that your TUF hero isn't jack shit anymore and has been granted the title of most overrated on the planet, but it's ok. Fedor won't kill him, but he may put him in a coma.

[TheIronWarrior]

It worked against Sylvia!!!! 

Spot on bro. Hell yeah. 

[Bluto]

Has anyone ever on here claimed Fedor isnt #1 HW? If so, then I can understand you want to debate it, otherwise it's no point is it?

[gymrat75]

Did you guys forget that Randy almost finished him (Tim Sylvia) in the first 5 seconds of the fight with his very first punch? He dropped Sylvia and pounced on him, but Sylvia survived. It could have easily been over in 5 seconds flat!

[Bluto]

Did you guys forget that Randy almost finished hime in the first 5 seconds with the first punch? He dropped Sylvia and pounced on him, but Sylvia survived. It could have easily been over.

yes they forgot that

[Dball]

I think Dana owes the fight to Randy.  You gotta know by now that Randy wants to fight the best, and he readily admits that there are none better than Fedor.  It has to eat away at Randy's competitors spirit that there was someone considered by many as better that him while he still fought.  If nothing else, Dana owes Randy the chance to find out for his own.

[Geo]

Did you guys forget that Randy almost finished him (Tim Sylvia) in the first 5 seconds of the fight with his very first punch? He dropped Sylvia and pounced on him, but Sylvia survived. It could have easily been over in 5 seconds flat!

the operative word here being "almost".

[Logan32]

This is 44 year old man we are talking about beating up on 20 and 30 somethings. To say he is over rated is a gross exaggeration. I think he still matches up extremely well with just about every heavyweight out there today. Who ever said Randy eeked out a decision on Tim should really go back and re-watch that fight. I saw someone get dominated on his feet and on the ground by someone who by all physical standards is suppose to be past his prime for combat sports. We also saw this same person TKO the man who KO'ed Cro Cop. People may not get the big deal about that by seeing the direction Mirko's career is taking at the moment but lets just say the world was shocked.

I think that Randy deserves all the praise he gets as a fighter. The quality of fighters he has fought through out his career has always been the best. I am not sure if Randy will be able to beat Fedor but hey it is a fight I definitely want to see. The facts are clear you are right Randy is not getting any younger and for all intents and purposes Fedor at 32 can be said to be still in his physical prime which on paper says that Randy will have a tough time of it. Someone in the previous post asked the question how does Randy beat Fedor? Well I see it a little differently. I see it like this Randy has had a long career and has faced argueably the most Top 10 fighters, at the time he fought them, consistantly then just about any other fighter. I see this more as someone who wants to test himself against the best in the world. The fact that he is/was the UFC heavyweight champ justifies his qualifications to get at least a shot against Fedor. Plus being his age this could be his last fight so why not go out and fight the person that argueably could be said is the best fighter in the world today in MMA. Because in the end when his career is over he can look at himself and say I fought the best the world had to offer in the time period I fought....  Besides who else currently is more deserving than Randy? Nog?He already beat him twice. The only other person I see as deserving as Randy is Josh Barnett.

[BDsauce]

I personally like Randy but people get overboard sometimes thinking he is the greatest. People seem to forget the stint he had in the RINGS org, were he got subbed 3 times....... all by cans!

Fedor was there too.

[Bluto]

I personally like Randy but people get overboard sometimes thinking he is the greatest. People seem to forget the stint he had in the RINGS org, were he got subbed 3 times....... all by cans!

Fedor was there too.

good thing randy and fedor share the same background when it comes to submissions.

[Dball]

 Because in the end when his career is over he can look at himself and say I fought the best the world had to offer in the time period I fought....  .

The only reason that Randy should fight Fedor.

[Bluto]

Coutures MMA record is 16-8.

He's overrated.

but 5 of those losses came in 2002 or earlier. one was due to a cut. and two losses against chuck.

[MisterMagoo]

but 5 of those losses came in 2002 or earlier. one was due to a cut. and two losses against chuck.

point is what has randy done in the past three years that makes anyone think he could beat fedor? who has he beaten that fedor didn't? who has he manhandled that fedor took to a decision? it hasn't happened.

the last guy randy beat, fedor did in half a minute. that's the point.

[Logan32]

Coutures MMA record is 16-8.

He's overrated.

This coming from soemone with a screenname of Mark Kerr (15-8 with losses to such notable fighters as Tracy Willis and Mustapha al Turk) anyway....

I would say that when examing the greatness of a fighter you have to look at more then just this persons record. You have to look at quality of competition. The facts are you have to go back to 2000 to find the last fighter Randy has faced who was not considered at the time top 5/10. If we were are just going to look at records wow you know Rashad Evans is underfeated he must be the the greatest I mean his record is 13 - 0  ....

Lets take a look at some of his losses I will only go back 6 years:
Chuck Liddell 2x's (Can you name the last grappler that Chuck has not beat)
Vitor Belfort (At the time when Randy fought him Vitor was thought to be unstoppable and at that time he pretty much was)
Ricco Rodriguez (Again when Randy fought him Ricco was touted as probably one of the top 5 HW in the world)
Josh Barnett (Considered to be one of top 3 HW in the world)

Name one person who has faced competition like Randy has?

point is what has randy done in the past three years that makes anyone think he could beat fedor? who has he beaten that fedor didn't? who has he manhandled that fedor took to a decision? it hasn't happened.

the last guy randy beat, fedor did in half a minute. that's the point.

Actually I would disagree with your assumption of that being the point. You can not use MMA math to justify anything in MMA so by your logic Chuck Liddell >Tito O > W Silvia > Rampage..... Chuck destroyed Tito twice so I guess seeing Tito beat Silva Chuck will KO Wandy faster. Ok wait a minute that did not happen. Silva destroyed Rampage twice so wow I cant wait for Chuck to demolish Ramp.... Oh wait that doesn't work either. So your point was Fedor manhandled Tim and Randy took him to a decision and that is your logic for Randy not deserving to fight Fedor. Lets also look at another person people are looking for Fedor to fight Josh Barnett but by your logic why should Fedor even contemplate fighting him when he could not even beat Cro Cop.
 
Styles make fights plain and simple. By no means am I saying Randy is better then Fedor but lets give the guy his due. When you guys get to be 44 and you are still making it to the gym everyday let alone competing at the level Randy continues to compete at you can then say he is over rated..... 

 

[Bluto]

point is what has randy done in the past three years that makes anyone think he could beat fedor? who has he beaten that fedor didn't? who has he manhandled that fedor took to a decision? it hasn't happened.

the last guy randy beat, fedor did in half a minute. that's the point.

i dont think anyone think anyone has a good chance at beating fedor.

but since the fedor vs randy fight is the subject and has been for a long time thats what we comment on. i rather see him fight josh personally.

i got two problems with fedor:

1. nobody gets close to beat him which means it doesnt get very exciting
2. he doesnt knock people out even though he could.

maybe he should retire 

[Dball]

maybe he should retire 

Come on, now...   

And this will be a huge fight for MMA.  The fans that don't know alot about MMA still know who Randy Coture is.  That is just not so, at least not to the same extent, with Josh Barnett.  I think Barnett is the only one with a chance, but there are alot of casual fans out there that think Coture is the best HW in the world.  It would bring a lot of exposure, and certianly a lot of capitol to Affliction.  Let me ask you this:  who in the world that considers themselves an MMA fan would NOT buy the affliction card if it was Fedor vs Randy?

That's a lot of dough going into the bank...

[Logan32]

Randy beat an injured Tim Sylvia through a decision, and beat an overhyped young Gonzaga. Then Randy claims "himself" to be the number 2 heavyweight in the world.

The guy is overrated.

What are you Tim's publicist?? Well seeing that you have such an intelligent insightful comeback you have changed my mind  . Well everyone has thier opinion on if soemone is overhyped and argueing about opinion gets people no where. So all I will say is I respectfully disagree with your opinion but hey everyone is entitled to have one. To be honest I don't think anyone is actually matching up well with Fedor. So with that said my opinion is Randy is not over rated I do not think he is the #1 HW but I do think he is top 5.