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If it were not for George Bush...
« on: July 21, 2008, 07:27:42 PM »
and his Surge

Barak would not be over in that part of the world, flapping his lips.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 07:35:03 PM »
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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 07:54:28 PM »
if gas wasnt $4/gallon, obama would have a snowballs chance in hell of winning the election.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 08:01:36 PM »


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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 08:08:15 PM »

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 08:20:07 PM »
That's the best you liberal, NY Times reading fellows can do

Because it kills you to acknowledge

that surge is working


boo double-hoo ;D

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2008, 08:23:06 PM »
That's the best you liberal, NY Times reading fellows can do

Because it kills you to acknowledge

that surge is working


boo double-hoo ;D

Why don't you go over there and fight if you're all about it?

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 08:25:18 PM »
Surge =

You break a jar of grape jelly on your mum's favourite carpet, then find a way to get it dry-cleaned before she gets home from work.

You're a screw-up for getting yourself into that clusterfvck of a jam, yet your'e so proud of yourself for how you get out of it, that you forget about the fact YOU CAUSED THE WHOLE MESS YOU JUST FIXED.

And, you ignore the collateral damage.  IE: $50 you spend at teh dry cleaners, or 4100 lives lost/$3 tril war costs (present & LT) borrowed.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 08:29:17 PM »
Surge =

You break a jar of grape jelly on your mum's favourite carpet, then find a way to get it dry-cleaned before she gets home from work.

You're a screw-up for getting yourself into that clusterfvck of a jam, yet your'e so proud of yourself for how you get out of it, that you forget about the fact YOU CAUSED THE WHOLE MESS YOU JUST FIXED.

And, you ignore the collateral damage.  IE: $50 you spend at teh dry cleaners, or 4100 lives lost/$3 tril war costs (present & LT) borrowed.

It took the terrorists about 10mins to kill 3-4000 innocent working people in WTC compared to losing 4000 of our troops in more than 5 years that went to defend our country.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 08:37:05 PM »
It took the terrorists about 10mins to kill 3-4000 innocent working people in WTC compared to losing 4000 of our troops in more than 5 years that went to defend our country.

that's why it made sense to send troops to Afghanistan, but the Iraq deal was started because made up bullshit about Weapons of Mass Destruction.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 08:38:47 PM »
That's the best you liberal, NY Times reading fellows can do

Because it kills you to acknowledge

that surge is working


boo double-hoo ;D
only thing this war has done is help me be able to retire early ;D

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 08:39:22 PM »
It took the terrorists about 10mins to kill 3-4000 innocent working people in WTC compared to losing 4000 of our troops in more than 5 years that went to defend our country.

911 isn't an example you can cite anymore, joe.

Hundreds of people in the military are now calling it an inside job.

I don't want to debate it - neither you nor I know the truth.
Either 11 of our allies warned Bush about it beforehand, or 11 of our allies are lying.

But when hundreds of physicists and engineers, thousands of professors, and now hundreds of higher ranking military folks all say the same thing...


Well, at the very least, 911 becomes a question mark.  And you cannot use a question mark to win an argument.  If Bush knew about the attacks, as our allies claim, then those 2791 people died as a pretense for war.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2008, 08:40:40 PM »
and his Surge

Barak would not be over in that part of the world, flapping his lips.

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Bushies approval rating is 17%, lower than Carter, lower than Nixon, the lowest approval rating in the history of the country.

Only savinggrace is that Congress's approval rating is lower 11%.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2008, 08:41:04 PM »
that's why it made sense to send troops to Afghanistan, but the Iraq deal was started because made up bullshit about Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Funny.....about there were a bunch of other countries that agreed that there were WMD's and the majority of congress agreed there were WMDs so I guess EVERYONE was lying?

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 08:43:57 PM »
Funny.....about there were a bunch of other countries that agreed that there were WMD's and the majority of congress agreed there were WMDs so I guess EVERYONE was lying?


careful - most of those quotes were done to gain UN inspections.  most of the quotes were PRE-spring 2003 when we finally got inspections.  Our allies all wanted inspections.  THAT is what the UN resolution, and all their quotes and intel, was about.


We got the UN inpections.  we found nothing.


WE invaded anyway.  And all those other countries got mad at us for it - because they consented to Un inspections, not occupation/nationbuilding. 

There is a big gap there.  All those quotes, from both sides of the parties, were about PRE-UN inspection desire, and they got that.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2008, 08:44:10 PM »
It took the terrorists about 10mins to kill 3-4000 innocent working people in WTC compared to losing 4000 of our troops in more than 5 years that went to defend our country.
bro i have been to both Iraq and Afghanistan,have you?

i didn't think so,you have no idea whats going on.so until you listen to somebody else except FOX news your opinion is invalid ;)

and if you think Iraq has anything to do with 9/11 you are far more naive than i ever guessed.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2008, 08:45:51 PM »
It took the terrorists about 10mins to kill 3-4000 innocent working people in WTC compared to losing 4000 of our troops in more than 5 years that went to defend our country.
How long would it take to turn that area of the world to glass?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2008, 08:46:23 PM »
McCain admitted that he plans to make it so that "we never have to start a war for oil or energy AGAIN".

Alan Greenspan admitted the war was about oil.

BUSH admitted in Dec 2006 that the war was so that "terrorists wouldn't be able to control the oil".


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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2008, 08:47:09 PM »
How long would it take to turn that area of the world to glass?

nuking them?  LOL... and we lose 40% of the world's oil output in about 48 hours.

Things get very ugly here.  We might hate those bastard savages, but until we get energy-independent, we need them.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2008, 08:50:52 PM »
nuking them?  LOL... and we lose 40% of the world's oil output in about 48 hours.

Things get very ugly here.  We might hate those bastard savages, but until we get energy-independent, we need them.
Again, I have nothing nice to say...........


kill them all, let god, allah, buddha, mohammed, satan, thor, zeus........or whatever god they believe in, sort them out.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2008, 08:51:56 PM »
bro i have been to both Iraq and Afghanistan,have you?

i didn't think so,you have no idea whats going on.so until you listen to somebody else except FOX news your opinion is invalid ;)

and if you think Iraq has anything to do with 9/11 you are far more naive than i ever guessed.

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You sound like you know what you're talking about from a soldiers point of view-I can admire that.

IMO-and JUST MINE-I think Bushie and Cheney invaded more for oil than WMD's. I think Cheney and his oil buddies got together in a back room and divided up the oil fields and thought it was going to be easy pickings.

I would have never thought that in 2002, but during the last 6 years, and all the fucked up scandals and the politicizing of the Justice Department and everything else in Washington, I am now positive that Bushie and Cheney would stoop that low.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 08:53:20 PM »
Again, I have nothing nice to say...........


kill them all, let god, allah, buddha, mohammed, satan, thor, zeus........or whatever god they believe in, sort them out.

I'm not a fan of that side of the world.  I don't care if they hate us.  I think we should have hit iran a year ago.  today they're too strong.   I don't care what they do.  If they fvck with us, I'm all for leveling them.

I just don't want to borrow away america's future - $800 bil per year now - or weaken the dollar further - thru macho posturing that Bush likes.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2008, 08:54:51 PM »
I'm not a fan of that side of the world.  I don't care if they hate us.  I think we should have hit iran a year ago.  today they're too strong.   I don't care what they do.  If they fvck with us, I'm all for leveling them.

I just don't want to borrow away america's future - $800 bil per year now - or weaken the dollar further - thru macho posturing that Bush likes.
Pretty sure Iran is next on the list.......how much oil do they have?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2008, 08:57:51 PM »
I'm not a fan of that side of the world.  I don't care if they hate us.  I think we should have hit iran a year ago.  today they're too strong.   I don't care what they do.  If they fvck with us, I'm all for leveling them.

I just don't want to borrow away america's future - $800 bil per year now - or weaken the dollar further - thru macho posturing that Bush likes.

Are you fucking kidding me, the dollar is almost valueless, it cannot get any weaker.

That is what happens when you start trading treasury bills for the worthless debt of a BK Bear Sterns Cos. and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.

Private profits for millionaires/billionaires and socialized losses/bankruptcy for millions of poor and middle class taxpayers.

Pretty sure Iran is next on the list.......how much oil do they have?

Not as much as Russia (#2) or Brazil.

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Re: If it were not for George Bush...
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2008, 08:58:03 PM »
IMO-and JUST MINE-I think Bushie and Cheney invaded more for oil than WMD's. I think Cheney and his oil buddies got together in a back room and divided up the oil fields and thought it was going to be easy pickings.

The Commerce Department has been forced by Judicial Watch to turn over records of spring, 2001 meetings held between Dick Cheney and execs from global oil giants, records that suggest that the group decided months before September 11th that the US energy policy would center on taking control of Iraq's oil:

In the late spring of 2001, Vice President Cheney held a series of top secret meetings with the representatives of Exxon-Mobil, Conoco, Shell and BP America for what was later called the Energy Task-force. Their job, ostensibly, was to map out America’s Energy future. Since late 2001 several public interest groups, including the very conservative Judicial Watch, sued to have the proceedings of those meetings opened to public scrutiny. In March 2002, the Commerce Department turned over a few documents from the Task-force meetings to Judicial Watch, among which was the map of Iraq’s Oil Fields, dated March 2001 (above) and a list of the existing “Foreign Suitors” for Iraq Oil. Since that time, Cheney’s office has fought fiercely (and so far, successfully), right up to the Supreme Court, to keep the proceeding secret and to keep any of the private industry officials from disclosing any information about the meetings. Since we all now know the Bush administration’s energy policy, there can be only one explanation for the extraordinary efforts Cheney has taken to keep this secret–he was discussing the potential for a takeover of Iraq’s oil with the companies that might manage the resource, even before 9/11 gave him the excuse to do it.