Author Topic: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!  (Read 873 times)

Colossus_500

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3993
  • Psalm 139
I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« on: July 22, 2008, 10:49:48 AM »
Have Our Leaders Lost Their Minds?
by Newt Gingrich
   
I have two grandchildren, ages 5 and 7. If you're a parent or grandparent yourself, I challenge you not to think about a child you love when you read what I'm about to tell you.

I challenge you not to share my disgust with the barbarians who use the blood of innocents to further their political agendas.

And I challenge you not to share my contempt for the bureaucrats who think they can appease them.

For the governments that think their actions don't have consequences.

For the politicians who think that something - anything - good can come from allowing the killers of children to walk free.

Child Killers Sent to "Protest" the Camp David Accords
Smadar Haran, her husband Danny, and their two daughters, ages two and four, were at home in their apartment in northern Israel on the night of April 22, 1979. They were asleep in their beds around midnight when they awoke to gunfire and grenades exploding.

Terrorists, sent by terrorist leader Abu Abbas to protest the signing of the Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty at Camp David the year before, were breaking into their building.

Desperate to hide, Smadar carried her two-year-old into a crawl space above their bedroom. So terrified was she that her baby girl would cry out and alert the terrorists to their hiding place that Smadar held her hand tightly over the girl's mouth. Too tightly. By the time they were rescued hours later, the little girl was dead. Smadar had accidentally smothered her own child.

But the horror doesn't end there.

Kuntar Smashed a Four-Year-Old Girl's Head Against a Rock Until She Was Dead
While Smadar and her child hid in the crawlspace, Danny and the four-year-old ran out of the apartment for the safety of an underground shelter. They didn't make it. The terrorists took Danny and the little girl down to the beach where one of them, Samir Kuntar, shot Danny in front of the girl. His goal, according to Smadar, was that the sight of her father being killed "would be the last sight she would ever see."

Then Kuntar smashed the little girl's skull against a rock until she was dead.

Last week, in a deal brokered by the Israeli government with the terrorist group Hezbollah, Samir Kuntar, a cowardly child killer, walked out of an Israeli prison.

Israel Didn't Cave to Terrorists in 1985 But It Did Last Week
The deal the Israeli government made with Hezbollah included the exchange of the remains of two Israeli soldiers killed by Hezbollah in return for five live terrorists in Israeli prisons, including Kuntar.

And Kuntar was no ordinary terrorist prisoner. Abu Abbas was so impressed with Kuntar's savage child-killing tactics that Abbas masterminded the hijacking of the cruise ship Achille Lauro in 1985 - including the killing and dumping into the ocean of the defenseless, elderly, wheelchair-bound Leon Klinghoffer - to secure Kuntar's release.

Israel didn't cave into terrorists in 1985, but it did last week. And the deal it struck with Hezbollah will have disastrous consequences for Israel and the world.

The concession (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1214726165063) writes the Jerusalem Post's Caroline Glick "will cement Iran's control of Lebanon through Hizbullah. It also all but guarantees that any future Israeli soldiers taken hostage by Hizbullah will be killed on the spot. Why care for hostages when you can murder them and expect to receive the same payoff you would get if you kept them alive?"

Kuntar Receives a Hero's Welcome in Lebanon
But possibly even more disappointing than the Israeli government's willingness to make deals with terrorists is the reception that greeted the release of Samir Kuntar in parts of the Middle East last week.

Columnist Mona Charen reports (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDBjMzQwYThmOTVjNGFmYTcyNDE5ZDk5ODQyYTU4MmM=) that Kuntar literally received a red carpet reception in Beirut. Charen writes:

    The government closed all offices and declared a national day of celebration. Tens of thousands of Lebanese cheered, waved flags, threw confetti, and set off fireworks as Hezbollah staged a rally to celebrate their "victory" over Israel. Mahmoud Abbas, the "moderate" leader of the Palestinian Authority, sent "blessings to Samir Kuntar's family." PA spokesman Ahmad Abdul Rahman sent "warm blessings to Hezbollah . . . on the return of the heroes of freedom . . . headed by the great Samir Kuntar."

This barbaric display enrages me and it should enrage all Americans.

Both the Palestinian Authority and the Lebanese government are recipients of U.S. taxpayers' money through foreign assistance. Political leaders - and the people they lead - who cheer the release of despicable child murderers are unworthy recipients of our assistance.

Congress should insist that the Lebanese government and the Palestinian Authority retract their support for Kuntar or it should cut off U.S. assistance to them.

Appeasement Comes Home to America
As if the news from Israel weren't bad enough, the seemingly irresistible urge among some foreign policy elites to appease our worst enemies came home to America last week.

The State Department sent its third most senior official to sit in on nuclear "negotiations" with Iran, even as Iran continues its relentless pursuit of a nuclear weapon.

In the past, President Bush had a label for such a move. He called it "appeasement." Last week, his own State Department succeeded in taking the first steps in a futile attempt to appease a dictator who has called for the destruction of Israel and defeat of the West. His stated goal? A world without America.

And so I ask again: Have our leaders lost their minds?

"Hitler Tamed By Prison" - The Unexplainable Desire of Elites to Lie to Themselves
As a historian, I look for clues for how to manage our present from how we've managed our past.

One thing history shows is that some elites have a dangerous and unexplainable desire to lie to themselves.

A case in point: In 1924, Adolph Hitler was released from a German prison after serving time for conspiracy to overthrow the German government.

Nine years before he took power and led Germany on an irrevocable course toward world war and a campaign of systematic genocide against Jews, Gypsies, Catholics and others, the headline in the New York Times was:

"Hitler Tamed By Prison" - http://s3.amazonaws.com/newt/public/Newsletter072408_Hitlertamedbyprison.pdf

Read closely. The article concludes on this deluded note: "[Hitler's] behavior during imprisonment convinced the authorities that [he], like his political organization, known as the Volkischer, was no longer to be feared. It is believed he will return to private life and return to Austria, the country of his birth."

When the Negotiations Don't Work, What Are We Prepared to Do?
As America looks ahead to the swearing in of a new president next January, we need now, more than ever, leaders who resist the temptation to delude themselves about the nature of our enemies.

As a young Senator with little foreign policy experience, Barack Obama faces a unique challenge. As I write this, Senator Obama is traveling abroad seeking to convince the American people that he has the leadership ability to be commander in chief.

Senator Obama has also repeatedly assured us that he, too, will negotiate with regimes like Iran. But the question we owe to ourselves is to ask Senator Obama and our current State Department:

When negotiations don't work, what are you prepared to do?

Talking isn't a policy, it's a process. And talking to people who have vowed your destruction is at best a futile and at worst a dangerous process.

Just ask the Israelis. After greeting Samir Kuntar with a hug and a kiss when he returned to Lebanon last week, Hezbollah leader Sheikh Nasrallah declared, "The time of defeat is long gone. Today is the time of victory."



Samir Kuntar


Nordic Superman

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6670
  • Hesitation doesn't come easily in this blood...
Re: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2008, 11:43:50 AM »
Islam breeds love and peace in people, examples: Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.

He was a freedom fighter, fighting for God. The death of a child is the cost of victory.
الاسلام هو شيطانية

Fury

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 21026
  • All aboard the USS Leverage
Re: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 11:55:47 AM »
JaguarEnterprises and a few other Getbiggers actually tried to claim this 4 year old girl getting her head smashed in to further Israel's aims. Disgusting Muslim apologist fags.

I believe Olmert said it best last week. "Woe to the nation that celebrates in these hours the release of a bestial person who smashed the head of a 4-year-old child."

24KT

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 24455
  • Gold Savings Account Rep +1 (310) 409-2244
Re: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 12:15:36 PM »
JaguarEnterprises and a few other Getbiggers actually tried to claim this 4 year old girl getting her head smashed in to further Israel's aims. Disgusting Muslim apologist fags.

I believe Olmert said it best last week. "Woe to the nation that celebrates in these hours the release of a bestial person who smashed the head of a 4-year-old child."

I never said that at all. The article Nordic held in such high esteem said the cause of the girl's death was in dispute.
I merely said that a post mortem could clear up any controversy surrounding the cause of her death.
w

Benny B

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 12407
  • Ron = 'Princess L' & many other gimmicks - FACT!
In Palestine: 449 dead, including 66 children in first half of 2008
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 12:26:16 PM »
 
449 Palestinians were killed including 66 children in the first half of 2008, according to a report by the Palestinian Ministry of Health.

 Dr. Muawiyeh Hassaneen, a senior ministry official said that this number brought the total number of Palestinians killed since September 28, 2000 up to 5440.   Meanwhile, Dr. Hassaneen reported that four thousand Palestinians were wounded raising the number of wounded Palestinians since the outbreak of the second Intifada up to sixty thousand, 8550 of which became disabled.   The second Intifada started in September 2000 after the former Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon made a provocative visit to the Aqsa Mosque accompanied by more than 2000 police officers, soldiers and security officers.
!

24KT

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 24455
  • Gold Savings Account Rep +1 (310) 409-2244
Re: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2008, 12:27:32 PM »
Have Our Leaders Lost Their Minds?
by Newt Gingrich
   
I have two grandchildren, ages 5 and 7. If you're a parent or grandparent yourself, I challenge you not to think about a child you love when you read what I'm about to tell you.

I challenge you not to share my disgust with the barbarians who use the blood of innocents to further their political agendas.

And I challenge you not to share my contempt for the bureaucrats who think they can appease them.

For the governments that think their actions don't have consequences.

For the politicians who think that something - anything - good can come from allowing the killers of children to walk free.


Yuck, ...I hate it when Newt Gingrich and I agree on the same topic. it feels icky.
But I do agree, Israel made a bad deal in the prisoner trade.

I'm curious as to why he would use the title "Have Our Leaders Lost Their Minds?" tho ???
It's almost as if he is under the mistaken belief that America is Israel, or Israel is America.

or maybe ... no, ...could it be... maybe he is saying...























































America is ruled by Israel!


"Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but usually manages to pick himself up,
walk over or around it, and carry on." -- Winston Churchill


ps: Of course he challenges us not to be disgusted with those who use the blood of innocents to further political agendas. Of course he challenges us not to have contempt for bureaucrats or for governments who think their actions have no consequence. . . or for politicians who think the killers of children can walk free.

There are certain governments, bureaucrats, and politicians who actions when held to the light of day would not pass muster for rational, logical, compassionate, decent people. Is he afraid of another revolution?


“Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know?
For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.”
--Caesar
 
w

Deedee

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5067
  • They sicken of the calm, who knew the storm.
Re: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2008, 01:59:56 PM »
That article is the perfect example of why the Isrealis are a brilliant people. 

They know their enemy very well.  :)

They knew that old man Kuntar would receive a hero's welcome, and that Hezbollah would bluster victory.  As well as that the reaction by the West would be one of moral outrage, fear, and disgust.  Perfect for setting the stage for military aggression in Iran if and when it comes down to that. Excellent PR move.  :)

24KT

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 24455
  • Gold Savings Account Rep +1 (310) 409-2244
Re: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2008, 03:14:26 PM »
That article is the perfect example of why the Isrealis are a brilliant people. 

They know their enemy very well.  :)

They knew that old man Kuntar would receive a hero's welcome, and that Hezbollah would bluster victory.  As well as that the reaction by the West would be one of moral outrage, fear, and disgust.  Perfect for setting the stage for military aggression in Iran if and when it comes down to that. Excellent PR move.  :)

{LOL} Interesting perspective on the situation.
If only nordic could have posted that when asked how the article made Israel look good.  ;)
I suppose it could be considered a PR move when used against those who believe all muslims are alike.
What a victory parade organized by the Lebanese gov. has to do with justification for nukeing Iran, I don't know.
w

SAMSON123

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8670
Re: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2008, 08:06:55 PM »
I never said that at all. The article Nordic held in such high esteem said the cause of the girl's death was in dispute.
I merely said that a post mortem could clear up any controversy surrounding the cause of her death.

That's right Jaguar DEFEND YOURSELF AND YOUR STATEMENTS...There is a ROGUE JEW on board who despite their own history of TERRORIZING, BOMBINGS, ENSLAVEMENT and MASS DEATH CAMPS will quickly turn to point out someone else's supposed flaws while blood pours from their own hands... and where there is no flaw or fault, it is within the Jews realm to word play, falsify, LIE and create trouble...as this article does. The FAKENESS of it is astounding. Remember the Jessica Lynch story of battling terrorist in Iraq with her leg broken an a hand gun and when she ran out of bullets she produced a knife and stabbed so many terrorist ::)...we found out later the whole story had been written by Jerry Bruckheimer a well know Jewish script writer and obvious LIAR.

The article which began this thread is an obvious LIE by some Jew to turn the readers against Muslims and Islam. I am neither Muslim or follow Islam, but I do have respect for all people, until such things as this which attempt to incite contempt are brought into being. We watch this so called presidential campaigning and it has been nothing more than a HOT BED OF LYING, FALSIFYING and TROUBLEMAKING all in the name of trying to stir the people ires for or against a particular candidate. I am sick of it. The same game played for centuries is still having it effects on the weak in mind...like those who can no longer distinguish the differences in reality between reality and a SOAP OPERA.
C

Nordic Superman

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6670
  • Hesitation doesn't come easily in this blood...
Re: I N F U R I A T I N G !!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2008, 02:48:49 AM »
{LOL} Interesting perspective on the situation.
If only nordic could have posted that when asked how the article made Israel look good.  ;)
I suppose it could be considered a PR move when used against those who believe all muslims are alike.
What a victory parade organized by the Lebanese gov. has to do with justification for nukeing Iran, I don't know.

This is just idiotic drivel, same old overplayed Jag bullshit.

but I do have respect for all people

Except Jews of course?
الاسلام هو شيطانية