My Gaspari pro-hormones!

[Tom]

hi everyone! just a question for all of you experts i have a large number of all of gaspari's pro-hormones the ones banned and not made anymore for a couple of years such as his: pro-turanabol, his methyl-d, methyl-d extreme, and a few others the question i have is: are they good stuff or not, from previous postings on all pro-hormones including gaspari's i get/got conflicted messages either

1) their worthless, don't work and throw them away and just use the "real stuff?"

2) yeah, they work but their as toxic as hell might as well use the "real stuff?

3) they work when your just starting out ( like i am) but are more toxic than the real stuff, so use them for a couple of years, take anti-toxic liver kidney supplements and then go to the "real stuff"

so what gives what's the truth guys! thanks in advance for all the replies!

[El Diablo Blanco]

They all expired anyways.  probably half as potent.

[Tom]

actually all these bottles have been sitting in my freezer, so i'm hoping, praying and guessing that they sure as shoot better still be good.

[calfzilla]

Is it andro?  If it is, it will probably only benefit you if your are a woman or a man with low testosterone levels. 

Who cares about health?  I agree if you are putting exogenous hormones into your body you might as well us the real stuff that we all know works.

[The ChemistV2]

hi everyone! just a question for all of you experts i have a large number of all of gaspari's pro-hormones the ones banned and not made anymore for a couple of years such as his: pro-turanabol, his methyl-d, methyl-d extreme, and a few others the question i have is: are they good stuff or not, from previous postings on all pro-hormones including gaspari's i get/got conflicted messages either

1) their worthless, don't work and throw them away and just use the "real stuff?"

2) yeah, they work but their as toxic as hell might as well use the "real stuff?

3) they work when your just starting out ( like i am) but are more toxic than the real stuff, so use them for a couple of years, take anti-toxic liver kidney supplements and then go to the "real stuff"

so what gives what's the truth guys! thanks in advance for all the replies!

The Methyl-D was supposed to be a great product. It is a methylated form of trenbolone..very potent. I had a friend who made some great gains off that in 5 weeks. You don't need to run it longer than that and you only need about 3 or 4 tabs a day. Do some PCT afterwards. If it was in the freezer, it should be OK..I've seen those tabs and their pretty solid.

[Tom]

thanks for the info chemistv2! wondering after awhile could i stack the gaspari methyl's with the gaspari pro turnabol? or is that too intense?

also pardon my dumbness but what is pct?  after each of the pro-hormones i was thinking when i'm off of them doing some trib or some other "natural" test boosting products?

also while i'm on the gaspari pro-hormones should i be taking an estrogen suppresant and/or liver and kidney anti-toxic supp?

[The ChemistV2]

thanks for the info chemistv2! wondering after awhile could i stack the gaspari methyl's with the gaspari pro turnabol? or is that too intense?

also pardon my dumbness but what is pct?  after each of the pro-hormones i was thinking when i'm off of them doing some trib or some other "natural" test boosting products?

also while i'm on the gaspari pro-hormones should i be taking an estrogen suppresant and/or liver and kidney anti-toxic supp?

PCT is known as Post cycle therapy and is utilized to restart your own testosterone production in the event it has been shut down. I never saw the pro-turnabol, but I am assuming it is very similar to the oral steroid Turinabol. If I were  you,I would choose one or the other so as not to overburden your liver. The turinabol will not be as potent as the Methyl ones. Don't let the fact that Methyll-D was a legal product once fool you. Methyl-D™ is a very close chemical cousin to one the most potent steroids  ever made - methyltrenbolone (aka Methyltrienolone).The only real difference between the two, chemical wise, is  a double bond at Carbon #11 found on Methyltrienolone. That's why it's one of the only anabolics that produces results in doses as low as 3 mg a day. Will it shut you down in 5 weeks? I would think so. You could probably run a month of Gaspari's Novadex Xt afterwards for PCT, but if you had Clomid, even better. Personally, since I haven't done any anabolics in about 20 years, I wouldn't do it since it's really just a steroid that was sold as a supplement. If you want a milder cycle, run the turinabol for 6 weeks or so. Won't shut you down as much and you should still make good gains. Again use the PCT for a month or so. For liver protection, use Milk thistle and don't drink much alcohol while using these products. Let us know what you decide and your results you get.

[candidizzle]

buy liv 52 from himalaya and use it after your done with the turinabol.   

[Tom]

thanks chemistv2 for you advice,the plan is for me to start out with 1-ad, or mohn, then some boldione i have, then some of the various nors, and then pro turanabol and finally with the gaspari methyl's both regular methyl-d and then methyl-d extreme, however, i still want to stack something with the turanabol and methyl's not sure what though. any suggestions? a natural test booster with these pro-hormones or perhaps stacking these above mentioned stuff with some of the now on the market not as potent products that are not labeled and called "pro-hormones" anymore?

i have enough pro-hormones to last me roughly 2 or 2 1/2 years, then the plan is yes to slowly going the how should i say "real route".

[darksol]

Was the old stuff that much better than his current stuff?  I thought Novedex XT was a pretty good product.  Definately does what it is supposed to.