arnold at olympia 80s

[hazbin]

A staring at his detractors after he was forced to capitulate to the group's wishes.

Please, Mentzer was angry enough he'd of tore a's head from his shoulders....they said in mag at time that ben W and others intervened btw the two before MM could do the same

always take the angrier man in a streetfightl

it's not a street fight though, moose. it's a bb contest and Arnold did what he could to throw Mike's focus off his presentation. it worked brilliantly.

who would win that fight is about as relevant to that day as who had the nicer car.

[Antony77]

it's not a street fight though, moose. it's a bb contest and Arnold did what he could to throw Mike's focus off his presentation. it worked brilliantly.

who would win that fight is about as relevant to that day as who had the nicer car.

Or who had to suck the most dicks when their welfare checks didn't cover their meth habit. Oh wait scratch that, it only applied to one of them, my bad. 

[Antony77]

I will say this for Mentzer, it was a pity he self destructed after the contest because he had a good build. Another 2-3 years of solid training and he could have been a contender.  I mean Samir Bannout finished 15th at the 1980 Olympia and 9th at the 1981 Olympia but then won the show in 1983, he didn't freak out because of bad placings but worked hard and reaped the rewards. Was 5th place such a slap in the face that quitting and grousing about it for the rest of his life the only answer?
Would Arnold have had any success in any facet of his life if he had of quit after losing to Sergio?

[knny187]

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Damn, Platz is looking crazy..... his abs are amazing at, and his chest is dialed in bigtime!

Which is why Moose was dead wrong by saying Platz was off that night.

He was very dialed in.  He deserved about 3-4 placings higher...easily.

[Eric2]

A staring at his detractors after he was forced to capitulate to the group's wishes.

Please, Mentzer was angry enough he'd of tore a's head from his shoulders....they said in mag at time that ben W and others intervened btw the two before MM could do the same

always take the angrier man in a streetfightl

If you knew anything about fighting (stick to greasing your luxurious mullet) you would know that the man in controle wins 9 out of 10 times. The hot head who is easily agitated and out of controle will lose most of the time.

[Voice of Doom]

If you knew anything about fighting (stick to greasing your luxurious mullet) you would know that the man in controle wins 9 out of 10 times. The hot head who is easily agitated and out of controle will lose most of the time.

Take it easy on Moosejay, he's just getting his head around the fact that a black man is about to become the POTUS.  This extreme realignment of his reality has left him not thinking clearly. 

[Moosejay]

it's not a street fight though, moose. it's a bb contest and Arnold did what he could to throw Mike's focus off his presentation. it worked brilliantly.

who would win that fight is about as relevant to that day as who had the nicer car.

true, just answering to the youngster's misgivings

[Moosejay]

Which is why Moose was dead wrong by saying Platz was off that night.

He was very dialed in.  He deserved about 3-4 placings higher...easily.

Maybe, maybe not

[Moosejay]

If you knew anything about fighting (stick to greasing your luxurious mullet) you would know that the man in controle wins 9 out of 10 times. The hot head who is easily agitated and out of controle will lose most of the time.

I was a doorman for 7 years

NEVER had a fight

Don't know a thing about fighting, Tap-Out Boy

Bc I was a superb diplomat

Defused the worst of riotous potentials

Many times over 

[Moosejay]

Take it easy on Moosejay, he's just getting his head around the fact that a black man is about to become the POTUS.  This extreme realignment of his reality has left him not thinking clearly. 

Dream on, Fan Boy

NOTHING in my life will change regardless of who is president

Umlike others, who are lemmings

[JohnnyVegas]

it's not a street fight though, moose. it's a bb contest and Arnold did what he could to throw Mike's focus off his presentation. it worked brilliantly.
who would win that fight is about as relevant to that day as who had the nicer car.

Haz, you give Arnold too much credit...... it was a contraversy that's for sure

[JohnnyVegas]

If you knew anything about fighting (stick to greasing your luxurious mullet) you would know that the man in controle wins 9 out of 10 times. The hot head who is easily agitated and out of controle will lose most of the time.

I dont know Eric, if you get someone who is just mad as hell, he may be out of control and that out of control anger might really put a crazy person over the top in a fight....I dont know first hand though, I am a lover not a fighter...... 

[Moosejay]

I dont know Eric, if you get someone who is just mad as hell, he may be out of control and that out of control anger might really put a crazy person over the top in a fight....I dont know first hand though, I am a lover not a fighter...... 

I saw a 145 pound drunk man pummel the sheet out of a 300 pound lumber jack dude....combo of anger and the fact that the lumber jac k didn't expect it...in a bar, one of the most amazing sites ever....bam bam bam and it was done

Yeah...I am not really  worried about 'knowing how to fight'

[Moosejay]

You have no idea how anybody was acting from that photograph, unless you were there in the room at the time

Nor do you

....... and Arnold was afraid to look him in the eye? What other crazy observations can Mentzer fans mine from it?

I am not a mentzer "fan"

 Because they certainly don't have a lot of fodder to choose from to make case why Mentzer is better than Arnold.
Next you will be reminding everyone that Mike was a philosopher who liked to suck on Ayn Rands spiky cock (she had one you know) "so he's clearly more intelligent than Arnold wahhhh!" Who gives a shit they were bodybuilders so the only thing that matters is that Arnold kicked Mentzers ass hard on stage, and I think it's funny that Arnolds inferior and completely wrong training methods still allowed him to look much bigger than Mike after only 6 months of serious training.  

Anyway I seriously doubt that Mentzer would have said all that much in front of weider and everyone, from all accounts he was pretty introverted. He was also 5'8 while Arnold was 6'2 so I don't why Arnold would have been scared of him, he was just so much bigger as the photo's in this thread show.

And how do you know this, 'Antony'...were you there?


A lot of people want to make out that there was this big rivalry between them but Mike wasn't even a blip on Arnolds radar, Arnold was just too successful, maybe Arnold could have been said to have had rivalry during is competitive heyday with Sergio Oliva and Sylvester Stallone at the box-office, but Mike Mentzer? Hardly. What did Mike ever achieve? They only met on stage once and then Mike talked shit about Arnold over and over to every 3rd tier magazine that would listen to him until the day he died, that's it just one small mans inability to move on in his life, talk about a storm in a teacup.

Antony, please go take your anger to the gym!!!

[Antony77]

Nor do you
I am not a mentzer "fan"
And how do you know this, 'Antony'...were you there?

You're right I have no idea what was really happening in that old photo, which is why I didn't make any comments or put forward any theories on what was going on when it was taken cause it would be pointless and silly. But you obviously felt different. quote "A was actling like a little child here and was fearful of looking mm in the eye who would have ripped his head off"
All that from one photo, amazing!

"he was just so much bigger as the photo's in this thread show."

And how do you know this, 'Antony'...were you there?
Why would I have to have been there to know that Arnold was bigger? All I have to do is look at every photo in this thread, but maybe you missed those.

[Moosejay]

You're right I have no idea what was really happening in that old photo, which is why I didn't make any comments or put forward any theories on what was going on when it was taken cause it would be pointless and silly. But you obviously felt different. quote "A was actling like a little child here and was fearful of looking mm in the eye who would have ripped his head off"
All that from one photo, amazing!

No, I have trained with several of the guys in that show, and had a seminar with  one of the judges, Michael Walcszak, who also was the drug doc to almost all of the entrants

"he was just so much bigger as the photo's in this thread show."

And how do you know this, 'Antony'...were you there?
Why would I have to have been there to know that Arnold was bigger? All I have to do is look at every photo in this thread, but maybe you missed those.

You + Me= no Comparison in experience and exposure to all of this

No disrespect intended...btw, photos tell little truth next to actually seeing and judging

[knny187]

Maybe, maybe not

what he deserved & what he place is two different things obviously

[Antony77]

You + Me= no Comparison in experience and exposure to all of this

No disrespect intended...btw, photos tell little truth next to actually seeing and judging

Fair enough. Since all we've got to go on are photos then we'll just have agree to disagree since we seem to be interpreting them differently.

[Moosejay]

Fair enough. Since all we've got to go on are photos then we'll just have agree to disagree since we seem to be interpreting them differently.

Very good, the, agreed!

[Bauce Major]

Arnie sporting the zane physique in '80.

smh

[Moosejay]

Arnie sporting the Zane physique in '80.

Sm

well, actually, no.

[m8]

Hahaha, Arnold would have torn that midget's ass into pieces!

[JohnnyVegas]

Hahaha, Arnold would have torn that midget's ass into pieces!

I dont know, Arnold was not THAT much bigger 

[Bauce Major]

well, actually, no.

ummm ok

[Bix]

No

A was actling like a little child here

and was fearful

of looking mm in the eye

who would have ripped his head off

Dave Mastorakis told me that Mike had once met Arnold in the parking lot of some restaurant in California a couple of years later. Mike slammed Arnold up against a car and Arnold did nothing in return.