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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #175 on: August 02, 2008, 10:55:59 AM »
Am I missing something?  Arnold's lat thickness blows everyone else's outta the water in this picture.



You, are not missing anything the photo speaks for itself as do all the others in this thread. Certain other people posting here however seem to be from a planet where 2 + 2 = 5.

Arnold doesn't just have the biggest back, his arms in that shot are much bigger than the other guys.  ;)

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #176 on: August 02, 2008, 07:13:20 PM »
Mentzer couldn't touch Arnold.  Arnold was probably in his best ever condition in 1980 and his structure was vastly superior.

What an idiot.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #177 on: August 02, 2008, 09:57:04 PM »
If anyone's back was thicker than Arnold's, it would be Dickerson's. He looked arguably better than Arnold when both compared relaxed shots from the back.

What I'd like to see is a back double bi comparison between them.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #178 on: August 03, 2008, 12:37:41 AM »
What an idiot.

Mentzer had no chest, narrow shoulders, and a huge gut.  He had nothing on Arnold.  Mike came in good condition, but he got what he deserved in 5th place.

The contest was really close between Dickerson and Arnold.  I think Arnold was more complete from the front though.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #179 on: August 03, 2008, 12:48:36 AM »
Also notice in the stand relaxed shots that everyone except Arnold is standing in a non-relaxed state.  They're all flexing while Arnold is standing there doing nothing.  The relaxed photos are deceiving.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #180 on: August 03, 2008, 04:25:18 AM »
Found a half-decent comparison between them. As I suspected, Dickerson seems to show superior middle traps, infraspinatus, and teres major. Dickerson does look to be squeezing his scapula together just a bit more than Arnie, which would likely make those muscles of his upper back pop out more, skewing the comparison. There must be a better shot of this somewhere.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #181 on: August 03, 2008, 09:43:24 AM »
If anyone was screwed it was Dickerson by a long shot.  His back was slightly better than Arnold's, but his legs were vastly superior. However, Arnold's arms and chest were better.  Conditioning wise I'd say it was about equal. Tough to call, but Dickerson and Arnold were easily the best guys on stage that night.

Dickerson's back lookin' dense.




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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #182 on: August 03, 2008, 09:58:53 AM »
is that true?

Unless there were official weigh-ins it's BS. 

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #183 on: August 03, 2008, 11:23:46 AM »
Am I missing something?  Arnold's lat thickness blows everyone else's outta the water in this picture.



Respectfully, I disagree

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #184 on: August 03, 2008, 11:35:20 AM »

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #185 on: August 03, 2008, 11:37:11 AM »


Nah, I have helped both guys with writing short articles. They seem to like me okay.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #186 on: August 03, 2008, 11:40:33 AM »
Respectfully, I disagree

The only guy comparable to Arnold back thickness wise in that photo is Boyer Coe.  Here's proof that Arnold's back was thicker than Roger Walker's.

Notice how much thicker Arnolds traps and lats.  Arnold is also much wider.



Their spinal erectors are about the same thickness, but look how Arnolds lat thickness stands out against the xmas tree.



Roger has him on back detail, but for density Arnold has the better back.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #187 on: August 03, 2008, 11:43:47 AM »
Nah, I have helped both guys with writing short articles. They seem to like me okay.
I'm sure my statement was on their minds

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #188 on: August 03, 2008, 11:53:59 AM »
Whether Arnold should have won or not is debatable. What is impressive is how he retired for 5 years and then only trained hard for a couple of months and looked as good as he did.  Some of his friends (Michael Walchak MD, Ken Waller) say that a week out, he looked much better and fuller, close to his 75 showing. He had a bad shoulder injury and foolishly got a cortisone shot which made him hold water. To counter act that, he took some diueretics the last couple of days and he looked real flat at prejudging. Everyone agrees he was better at the night show.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #189 on: August 03, 2008, 12:48:31 PM »
Whether Arnold should have won or not is debatable. What is impressive is how he retired for 5 years and then only trained hard for a couple of months and looked as good as he did.  Some of his friends (Michael Walchak MD, Ken Waller) say that a week out, he looked much better and fuller, close to his 75 showing. He had a bad shoulder injury and foolishly got a cortisone shot which made him hold water. To counter act that, he took some diueretics the last couple of days and he looked real flat at prejudging. Everyone agrees he was better at the night show.

Arnold trained hard for 8 weeks, a very short amount of time for any show, much less the O.

He never was close to 75 though.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #190 on: August 03, 2008, 01:12:10 PM »
Arnold trained hard for 8 weeks, a very short amount of time for any show, much less the O.

He never was close to 75 though.

Yeah I agree..but remember he wasn't at his biggest in 75 either..My favorite Arnold year was 74. He was big, full, cut and even his legs were thick and shredded.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #191 on: August 03, 2008, 01:22:50 PM »
Franco look's like one of those retards Arnold helps at the retard Olympics. ;D

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #192 on: August 03, 2008, 01:55:32 PM »
Franco look's like one of those retards Arnold helps at the retard Olympics. ;D



It does look like foreshadowing.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #193 on: August 03, 2008, 02:10:38 PM »
Franco look's like one of those retards Arnold helps at the retard Olympics. ;D



Ha Ha Ha ha Ha

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #194 on: August 03, 2008, 06:19:26 PM »
Whether Arnold should have won or not is debatable. What is impressive is how he retired for 5 years and then only trained hard for a couple of months and looked as good as he did.  Some of his friends (Michael Walchak MD, Ken Waller) say that a week out, he looked much better and fuller, close to his 75 showing. He had a bad shoulder injury and foolishly got a cortisone shot which made him hold water. To counter act that, he took some diueretics the last couple of days and he looked real flat at prejudging. Everyone agrees he was better at the night show.

Chem, remember how he said he got to hotel room in Aus, turned on the oven, and posed multiple time his routine with a sweat suit on to eke out the water?

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #195 on: August 03, 2008, 08:46:12 PM »
Chem, remember how he said he got to hotel room in Aus, turned on the oven, and posed multiple time his routine with a sweat suit on to eke out the water?
Yeah, I read that in the magazines. He said he just kept posing for hours till the water got out...think he may have done some diuretics though.

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #196 on: August 03, 2008, 11:24:33 PM »
bwahahahahahahahahahaha. ...CLASSIC

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #197 on: August 04, 2008, 07:13:27 AM »
The ol' saying, "we're not laughing at you, we're laughing with you" does not apply here.  :D


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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #198 on: August 04, 2008, 07:28:10 AM »
Great thread.

Mods, move this to the Arnold board please!

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Re: arnold at olympia 80s
« Reply #199 on: April 15, 2013, 06:58:16 PM »
Mentzer definitely couldn't have beat Arnold that night but he should have at least placed higher than Zane. Zane deserved 8th at best, he looked like a stick. People dump on Arnolds legs but Zanes are much worse, it looks like the only exercise he bothered using was leg extensions, and his arms are about 15 to 16 inches.

this is a very old thread, but i must tell you what a fool you are......zane was known to squat for leg development.....please don't make moronic statements like this about zane. zane had good leg development, his problem was that he appeared flat on stage due to over dieting.