pin problem.

[DieHards]

hey guys.  today i pinned my test into my left leg.  i followed the pin protocol always when pinning, usual site never had problems before.  I aspirate and did not see blood n went ahead with it.  When i injected the site bumped up a little and the site became really sore more than usual with some pain, and when i pulled out the barrel alot more blood came out too than the droplets that i get.  now at the site its bruised and sore.


can ne one think of what went wrong? or this sometimes happens?  what should i look out for now so i know if i need medical attention or not.


thnx guys

mike

[OTHstrong]

Welcome to the anabolic world.

This is common, same thing happened to me last week. A painful bruise, but nothing else, I wouldn't worry.

[DieHards]

Welcome to the anabolic world.

This is common, same thing happened to me last week. A painful bruise, but nothing else, I wouldn't worry.

ahhhh i see.  good to know. thnx man.   yea i been apart of this beautiful society for awhile now and it never happend to me actually.    
now i can quit worrying and bump up the dose of test

[clrz1000]

Ive never bruised before.
I have had swelling and redness.
BUT here lately Ive been expereincing bad coughing fits
when I stick my glutes about 50% of the time? left or right
it doesent matter. and its almost instantly when the coughing fit
comes on. and lasts about 10 to 15 minutes after.
I stick my self in the quads,delts and bi,s and never have this
happen. only with the glutes.
LATER

[gracie bjj]

that same thing happened to me last week,i was alittle worried but in 3 or 4 days the pain will go away,sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesnt for me.i saw alittle more blood also when i pulled the pin out,i just used the alchohol swab and slapped a band aid on it and i was off to the races.lol

[gracie bjj]

bro i think you jinxed me,lol,i just did my shot of prop in my right outer thigh and when i pulled the pin out blood squirted about afoot in the air ,i think i hit scar tissue cause ive never seen that much blood before,thats prop for ya though,alot of shots every week

[freakfestMD]

hey guys.  today i pinned my test into my left leg.  i followed the pin protocol always when pinning, usual site never had problems before.  I aspirate and did not see blood n went ahead with it.  When i injected the site bumped up a little and the site became really sore more than usual with some pain, and when i pulled out the barrel alot more blood came out too than the droplets that i get.  now at the site its bruised and sore.


can ne one think of what went wrong? or this sometimes happens?  what should i look out for now so i know if i need medical attention or not.


thnx guys

mike

You probably hit a vein or ruptured one from the pressure of the injection.  I favor aspiration, but a negative aspirate doesn't mean you can't still hit a vein--especially if you don't hold the pin as steady as you'd like to think you do during the injection itself.

Either way, not a worry.

[freakfestMD]

BUT here lately Ive been expereincing bad coughing fits
when I stick my glutes about 50% of the time? LATER

Are you running tren?  This is very common with that compound. Interestingly, in clinical studies it has also been noted with injection of just about any form of test, although no one here seems to experience it.

If you're not expecting it, it can be pretty frightening--you think your having some sort of pulmonary embolism or heart attack. 

One getbig member stated that he did not get tren cough if he left the needle in place for about 20 seconds after the injection.  I'm not sure why that would work, but I have tried it and it does certainly seem to be effective.

[Luv2Hurt]

Are you running tren?  This is very common with that compound. Interestingly, in clinical studies it has also been noted with injection of just about any form of test, although no one here seems to experience it.

If you're not expecting it, it can be pretty frightening--you think your having some sort of pulmonary embolism or heart attack. 

One getbig member stated that he did not get tren cough if he left the needle in place for about 20 seconds after the injection.  I'm not sure why that would work, but I have tried it and it does certainly seem to be effective.

Hey Freak good to see you again.  I have had this happen with test, deca and EQ.  Always test present.  Probally has happened about 5 times in my career.  Sometimes it is mild others the cough comes on strong and will last like 5 min.  I do think it is an embolism.  I know it is gonna happen when an urge to cough starts up during the injection.  quite possibly it could be oil getting in a pierced vein or the pin being moved back into the vein.

As I understand it the lungs are flight organs, this could be a response by the body to the perceived situation of oil entering the blood stream

[clrz1000]

no tren yet. I plan on it a little later on
 I used tren only once and that was
on my 2nd cycle but no tren cough.
thats why this coughing thing is strange
to me as of right now?
I just did a glute shot about 45 mins,
ago and no cough. I too will leave the
pin in for ten seconds so the oil pressure
can spread out. so If I went through a vein
not as much oil will follow the pin hole to
the vein. I'm on my 5th run and never passed
out from a vein injection always aspirate!!!!!
Ill hit the other glute day after tomorrow
and see.
THANKS,

[erokyrwrld]

Its called a subdermal hematoma and is not really different than any other bruise.  During the injection you passed through a vein which was not able to bleed out until you pulled the pin out.  Once you did, blood flowed into the subdermal tissue and appeared as a bruise.  It will dissipate over the coming weeks and is no need for alarm.

[DieHards]

bro i think you jinxed me,lol,i just did my shot of prop in my right outer thigh and when i pulled the pin out blood squirted about afoot in the air ,i think i hit scar tissue cause ive never seen that much blood before,thats prop for ya though,alot of shots every week

my bad bro.  well at least im not alone.   i have been thinking of prop but i dont want the frequent injections.  not that i cant stand injections or scared of needles, i just dont have the time with my schedule

[DieHards]

Its called a subdermal hematoma and is not really different than any other bruise.  During the injection you passed through a vein which was not able to bleed out until you pulled the pin out.  Once you did, blood flowed into the subdermal tissue and appeared as a bruise.  It will dissipate over the coming weeks and is no need for alarm.

thnx bro and everyone else.  the bruse is almost gone now plus the pain.  but i will say at the time it freaked me out and was nervous as shit.   

[freakfestMD]

it freaked me out and was nervous as shit.   

Good.  It should freak you out a little.  It keeps you vigilant, on your toes. 

Pinning is a sterile procedure.  Same routine, same way, every time.  Like clockwork.

Get sloppy, and get your first real abcess.   



My routine:

Sterile gauze pad soaked in alcohol.

Wipe top of gear bottle.  LET DRY.

Fresh 18guage pin to draw the compound.  Discard pin, place new needle for injection.

Wipe pin site with second sterile gauze soaked in alcohol.  LET DRY.

Pin.  Rub site.  Cover with bandaid.

Lift. Eat. Grow.

[Overload]

My routine:

Sterile gauze pad soaked in alcohol.

Wipe top of gear bottle.  LET DRY.

Fresh 18guage pin to draw the compound.  Discard pin, place new needle for injection.

Wipe pin site with second sterile gauze soaked in alcohol.  LET DRY.

Pin.  Rub site.  Cover with bandaid.

Lift. Eat. Grow.

Good to see you here Freak!

[clrz1000]

Why use a bandaid?
I,m not bustin your ball,s just curious?
If your a free bleeder I understand.
even when I hit a vein it only takes a few minutes
of holding pressure and it stops.
when I read the word BANDAID I immediately thought of
that BULLSHIT steroid documentary on MTV (I believe thats where I seen it)
where the guy shot winny in his delt and it wasn't bleeding but still used a
bandaid.
anyway just asking.
LATER

[Overload]

Why use a bandaid?
I,m not bustin your ball,s just curious?
If your a free bleeder I understand.
even when I hit a vein it only takes a few minutes
of holding pressure and it stops.
when I read the word BANDAID I immediately thought of
that BULLSHIT steroid documentary on MTV (I believe thats where I seen it)
where the guy shot winny in his delt and it wasn't bleeding but still used a
bandaid.
anyway just asking.
LATER

Why not?

I'm sure he knows plenty about sterile injection practices based on his career and education...

[bonedoc]

you probably just hit a small vein this happens all the time.  Go to another site for the 2 weeks. then that site should be good to go.

[DieHards]

Good.  It should freak you out a little.  It keeps you vigilant, on your toes. 

Pinning is a sterile procedure.  Same routine, same way, every time.  Like clockwork.

Get sloppy, and get your first real abcess.   



My routine:

Sterile gauze pad soaked in alcohol.

Wipe top of gear bottle.  LET DRY.

Fresh 18guage pin to draw the compound.  Discard pin, place new needle for injection.

Wipe pin site with second sterile gauze soaked in alcohol.  LET DRY.

Pin.  Rub site.  Cover with bandaid.

Lift. Eat. Grow.

i pretty much follow the same routine just not the bandaid part.   i esp dont want a abcess. my friend screwed pinning into his tricep.   had to get the damm this drained.  lets just say it was not pretty and a real eye opener on how carless u can get when u get toooo comfortable.

[Alex23]

  i followed the pin protocol always when pinning, usual site never had problems before. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ "protocol"


 

[DieHards]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ "protocol"


 

yes i know i have a very interesting choice of words. kill me

[Luv2Hurt]

i pretty much follow the same routine just not the bandaid part.   i esp dont want a abcess. my friend screwed pinning into his tricep.   had to get the damm this drained.  lets just say it was not pretty and a real eye opener on how carless u can get when u get toooo comfortable.

Start doing the bandaid part it is a very good idea.

[Overload]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ "protocol"


 

How are you pinning these days?

[clrz1000]

I wasn't insinuating he didn't know what he was doing!
just curious about that bandaid?
If every one catces on to this we will REALLY be able to spot ya
at the gym.
and just think about What a pro bodybuilder would look like after his
pinning session.
they would go through a box a day. LOL.
anyway diehard just asking.
GOOD LUCK

[OTHstrong]

I wasn't insinuating he didn't know what he was doing!
just curious about that bandaid?
If every one catces on to this we will REALLY be able to spot ya
at the gym.
and just think about What a pro bodybuilder would look like after his
pinning session.
they would go through a box a day. LOL.
anyway diehard just asking.
GOOD LUCK

I'll be damned if buying bandaids become yet another expense