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is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« on: July 29, 2008, 03:55:27 AM »
ive been doing alittle sust,deca and prop this summer,i do the sust and deca on monday and saturday,300 mgs of deca each shot with 250 mgs of sust in the same pin twice a week.  i do 100 mgs of prop every other day in between to keep my levels somewhat even.i use 10 mgs of dbol on my training days which is 5 days outta the week,the dbol gives me a slight kick,thanks in advance from the darkside
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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 04:30:11 AM »
The quality of the mass you gain will depend mostly on your diet and taining regime.  Train hard, consistantly and dont over eat it should look good.  But that sounds like enough gear for a decent response.

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 04:39:54 AM »
thanks man,you guys know your shit and im soaking  up all the knowledge yous have to offer
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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 05:26:49 AM »
ive been doing alittle sust,deca and prop this summer,i do the sust and deca on monday and saturday,300 mgs of deca each shot with 250 mgs of sust in the same pin twice a week.  i do 100 mgs of prop every other day in between to keep my levels somewhat even.i use 10 mgs of dbol on my training days which is 5 days outta the week,the dbol gives me a slight kick,thanks in advance from the darkside

I would consider dropping the deca a bit, or raising the test to have a more favorable test to deca ratio.  It looks like your total test dose per week is about 800mg with deca at 600mg.  I would probably bump the test up to 1000mg per week to avoid some of the known problems with erectile dysfunction when deca is used without test or at a lower ratio.  Now, that being said, if you're not experiencing any of these problems then, for you, this is fine.

Keep the diet tight.

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 07:36:05 AM »
I would consider dropping the deca a bit, or raising the test to have a more favorable test to deca ratio.  It looks like your total test dose per week is about 800mg with deca at 600mg.  I would probably bump the test up to 1000mg per week to avoid some of the known problems with erectile dysfunction when deca is used without test or at a lower ratio.  Now, that being said, if you're not experiencing any of these problems then, for you, this is fine.

Keep the diet tight.


Really good info here from a very knowledgeable bro! You guys would be smart to listen to the things this man says.

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 07:53:46 AM »
I would consider dropping the deca a bit, or raising the test to have a more favorable test to deca ratio.  It looks like your total test dose per week is about 800mg with deca at 600mg.  I would probably bump the test up to 1000mg per week to avoid some of the known problems with erectile dysfunction when deca is used without test or at a lower ratio.  Now, that being said, if you're not experiencing any of these problems then, for you, this is fine.

Keep the diet tight.

is deca dick really common ? I have never heard anybody around me who had it but I know quite a few guys including me that get Tren-dick.

I am never taking tren again, as soon as I am injecting this shit my libido get trown out of the window until I stop

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 08:05:39 AM »
is deca dick really common ? I have never heard anybody around me who had it but I know quite a few guys including me that get Tren-dick.

I am never taking tren again, as soon as I am injecting this shit my libido get trown out of the window until I stop

My libido is usually through the roof on the gear or not. Ask Emmortal about deca shutdown. It can and will happen to most. Keep the test/deca ratios at 2:1 and there should be no problems.

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2008, 08:30:38 AM »
thanks everyone,i thought i knew alot about cycles and juice, but i was i the dark compared to what i learned on these boards.yous guys are like mad scientists that know this stuff to a T;D
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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2008, 02:45:22 PM »
I am never taking tren again, as soon as I am injecting this shit my libido get trown out of the window until I stop

Are you stacking this with test or not?

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2008, 11:04:43 PM »
My libido is usually through the roof on the gear or not. Ask Emmortal about deca shutdown. It can and will happen to most. Keep the test/deca ratios at 2:1 and there should be no problems.

i was lucky enough not to get it.  i never heard of the term really until recent, my libido was the same.  i use to use alot of deca only or stack with dbol.  draw of the cards in my opinion but it seems like a lot of people draw that card.


now that i use test shit is out of control.  just a girls breast moving when she sneezes drives me nuts.  my girlfriend loves it lol.

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2008, 11:17:38 PM »
Are you stacking this with test or not?
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from what i know ,tren should not be stacked with test, its either test or tren in a cycle, correct me if im wrong !

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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 05:37:19 AM »
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from what i know ,tren should not be stacked with test, its either test or tren in a cycle, correct me if im wrong !

Nahh they go together just fine.  Much better than just one.  A test/tren cycle would be very advantageous.

What is it you have heard or learned that says they are a bad combo?

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 05:50:15 AM »
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from what i know ,tren should not be stacked with test, its either test or tren in a cycle, correct me if im wrong !

Not at all true.  Test and tren is actually one of the best combinations available in GearLand.

There is some evidence to suggest that tren and deca compete for the same receptor sites, and so this may not be advantageous.  In that regard, if I have incorporated deca at the start of a cycle, I will typically stop it and switch to tren midway through.

Also, in terms of depressed libido, sometimes you will find it is actually the anti-estrogen you are taking during the cycle.  Letrozole (femara) can do this to you.

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 08:06:14 AM »
is deca dick really common ? I have never heard anybody around me who had it but I know quite a few guys including me that get Tren-dick.

I am never taking tren again, as soon as I am injecting this shit my libido get trown out of the window until I stop

I got Deca dick when i ran 600mg Deca with 1000mg of FAKE Test...

It is very depressing, you don't even want to have sex, no interest. then when you do get hard it's a bitch to keep it that way.

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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 11:32:08 AM »
ive been doing alittle sust,deca and prop this summer,i do the sust and deca on monday and saturday,300 mgs of deca each shot with 250 mgs of sust in the same pin twice a week.  i do 100 mgs of prop every other day in between to keep my levels somewhat even.i use 10 mgs of dbol on my training days which is 5 days outta the week,the dbol gives me a slight kick,thanks in advance from the darkside

That's a good standard cycle.

As long as you can keep your diet OK and don't bloat too much, you should be alright.


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Re: is this a decent cycle for alittle quality mass?
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2008, 01:29:11 PM »
Nahh they go together just fine.  Much better than just one.  A test/tren cycle would be very advantageous.

What is it you have heard or learned that says they are a bad combo?
Not at all true.  Test and tren is actually one of the best combinations available in GearLand.

There is some evidence to suggest that tren and deca compete for the same receptor sites, and so this may not be advantageous.  In that regard, if I have incorporated deca at the start of a cycle, I will typically stop it and switch to tren midway through.

Also, in terms of depressed libido, sometimes you will find it is actually the anti-estrogen you are taking during the cycle.  Letrozole (femara) can do this to you.

cool...thx for the info guys  ;)