Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?

[serpentine007]

Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides

[Stark]

I don't think so, you can drop a little bit more fat and than look more defined and cut

[DK II]

Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides

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8 years?? Shoot yourself.

[Knives]

what are your lifts?

[DK II]

Seriously though, PLEASE post your training program, your diet and your supplements.

There's a LOT that you can improve.

[Red Hook]

Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides

before this thread gets too negative lets me say this..

clearly you have never commited fullly to a training and diet plan in those 8 years.  Why not ask someone here to prepare a diet plan for you, mix in cardio and heavy weights and see what happens. Honestly you look like you have never walked into a gym before.

[nzmusclemonster]

Where is Squadfather when you need him!

[davidpaul]

Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides

This is either a gimmick. Or you are delusional to compare yourself to XFACTOR.

[kyomu]

Hey, Do you know why I built my threads?
They are for the people like you.

I bet you dont struggle for eating and training extra hard.

You are light years far from your natural potential limit.
Just you are razy.

[spinnis]

Ofcourse he is fucking kidding.

[nzmusclemonster]

before this thread gets too negative lets me say this..

clearly you have never commited fullly to a training and diet plan in those 8 years.  Why not ask someone here to prepare a diet plan for you, mix in cardio and heavy weights and see what happens. Honestly you look like you have never walked into a gym before.

I love the brutal honesty mixed with a tinge of sympathy 

[kyomu]

Ofcourse he is fucking kidding.

I hope so.

[Deicide]

Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides

Holy shit....I look better than you...........holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[big L dawg]

LOOKIN HUGE MAN.you have reached your genetic potential stat juicing.

[Deicide]

Hey, Do you know why I built my threads?
They are for the people like you.

I bet you dont struggle for eating and training extra hard.

You are light years far from your natural potential limit.
Just you are razy.

And Japanese/Korean does not distinguish between L and R....

[DK II]

LOOKIN HUGE MAN.you have reached your genetic potential stat juicing.

I think the gh15 cycle would fit a beast like him best. 

[Deicide]

Gimmik thread...must be....

[Pollux]

Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides

If that's the case, you wouldn't look the way to do.  

You're just lazy - without the "r".  

[kyomu]

And Japanese/Korean does not distinguish between L and R....

Hehehe. Thanx

[Army of One]

Yeah, you clearly have maxed out with you 13.5 inch arms at 25% bodyfat, Id start a cycle ASAP before you become catabolic on all your hard earned mass.

[serpentine007]

This is either a gimmick. Or you are delusional to compare yourself to XFACTOR.

Im actually bigger than X-factor, his tan, maybe a few % bodyfat and the fact he unloads water for his pics maybe make him look bigger than he is, Ive gained about 50 pounds since I started lifting 8 years ago.

[DK II]

Im actually bigger than X-factor, his tan, maybe a few % bodyfat and the fact he unloads water for his pics maybe make him look bigger than he is, Ive gained about 50 pounds since I started lifting 8 years ago.

You're officially getbig's biggest delusional idiot, that's all.

[Deicide]

Im actually bigger than X-factor, his tan, maybe a few % bodyfat and the fact he unloads water for his pics maybe make him look bigger than he is, Ive gained about 50 pounds since I started lifting 8 years ago.

Funny Stuff...

[oldman]

hey dude, I think you meant to post this on CL male for male, Midwest.

you dont train or diet, but I am sure that you bend over...why why why?

[Red Hook]

Im actually bigger than X-factor, his tan, maybe a few % bodyfat and the fact he unloads water for his pics maybe make him look bigger than he is, Ive gained about 50 pounds since I started lifting 8 years ago.

dude, if that is what you believe then there is truly no hope for you..

you look like you have never worked out..you have may have gained 50lb but probably 7.5lb of that is muscle the rest is fat