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McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« on: July 30, 2008, 12:28:33 PM »
Is he ready to lead?  No. 

McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
Posted: 12:50 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

(CNN) — Britney Spears, Paris Hilton…Barack Obama?

A new campaign ad from John McCain — which flashes shots of the two aforementioned megacelebrities — calls Barack Obama "the biggest celebrity in the world," but asks, "Is he ready to lead."

"He's the biggest celebrity in the world. But, is he ready to lead? With gas prices soaring, Barack Obama says no to offshore drilling. And, says he'll raise taxes on electricity. Higher taxes, more foreign oil, that's the real Obama," the ad's narrator says while crowds screaming, "Obama!" are shown.

Responding to the ad, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said, "On a day when major news organizations across the country are taking Senator McCain to task for a steady stream of false, negative attacks, his campaign has launched yet another. Or, as some might say, ‘Oops! He did it again.’"

The ad is the latest in a string of hard-hitting television commercials from the McCain campaign. Earlier spots suggest Obama is playing politics with the Iraq war, is against funding American troops, and bears some responsibility for high gas prices.

In a conference call with reporters announcing the ad, McCain adviser Rick Davis said of Obama's campaign coverage, "The focus on media, on events and activities, is much more something you'd expect from someone releasing a new movie."

"What we decided to do was find the top three international celebrities in the world," he said. "And I would say that from our estimation Britney and Paris came in second and third. So from our perspective, we have the biggest three celebrities in the world."

Davis also brushed aside suggestions the ad will be viewed by the American public as going negative.

"Will people think of this as negative advertising? Look, it’s the most entertaining thing I've seen on TV in a while. I wouldn't anticipate anything about this being negative," he said.

Steve Schmidt, another top McCain adviser also said it was accurate to compare Obama to the two celebrities who, as one reporter said on the call, are often portrayed as "frivolous and irresponsible."

"I don’t poll Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, but I know they're international celebrities, so apples to apples," he said.

A McCain advisor also told CNN's Dana Bash the ad targets Obama's "outrageous, narcissistic statements."

“It has not gone unnoticed by this campaign that Obama makes outrageous, narcissistic statements suggesting that his candidacy is what the world has been waiting for. Excuse me?” the adviser said. “What’s going to happen when he parts the sea? What about all the fish in the middle?” this adviser said with biting sarcasm.

The ad will run in 11 key battleground states — Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/30/mccain-ad-calls-obama-biggest-celebrity-in-the-world/#more-10515

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 12:33:00 PM »
Is he ready to lead?  No. 

you are probably right.

but, bush has pissed on people's cheerios for 8 years, then told them to piss off if they didn't like it.

so, obammers is leading in 99% of the polls as a result.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 12:46:32 PM »
McCain's trailing Obama badly, even with Karl Rove's help.

McCain is getting the better media coverage from the liberla media and he still can't make a dent in the Obama armor.

In study, evidence of liberal-bias bias Cable talking heads accuse broadcast networks of liberal bias -- but a think tank finds that ABC, NBC and CBS were tougher on Barack Obama than on John McCain in recent weeks.

...when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,712999.story


We have to remember, John McCain is the original media sweetheart--straight talk, straight shooter, maverick--the media eats that up.

When it comes to media bias, McCain is the winner.
 

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 12:53:55 PM »
McCain's trailing Obama badly, even with Karl Rove's help.

McCain is getting the better media coverage from the liberla media and he still can't make a dent in the Obama armor.


Are you drinking booze this morning?  Or is it afternoon already over there?   :D (j/k)  McCain is hardly "trailing Obama badly."  It's a deadheat and has been for weeks. 

Obama clearly gets the better media coverage:

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, "U.S. NEWS & WORLD REPORT," ADVISED NIXON, FORD, REAGAN, CLINTON: Absolutely. I do think the coverage has been unbalanced. "The Tyndall Report," which measures these things, he finds that the network news programs have devoted far more time to Obama than they have to McCain.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/21/lkl.01.html

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 01:14:23 PM »
It's a deadheat and has been for weeks. 

How many polls does Mccain lead in?
How many polls does Obama lead in?

if it's a dead heat, the numbers should be close, em?

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 01:29:56 PM »
Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 07/18 - 07/29 -- 46.2 43.8 Obama +2.4
Gallup Tracking 07/27 - 07/29 2682 RV 46 42 Obama +4.0
Rasmussen Tracking 07/27 - 07/29 3000 LV 48 46 Obama +2.0
USA Today/Gallup 07/25 - 07/27 791 LV 45 49 McCain +4.0
Democracy Corps (D) 07/21 - 07/24 1004 LV 50 45 Obama +5.0
FOX News 07/22 - 07/23 900 RV 41 40 Obama +1.0
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 07/18 - 07/21 1003 RV 47 41 Obama +6.0


He're what some of u guys aren't getting. We have a bad economy, high gas prices. an unpopular war and yet....the biggest lead this guy has from day to day is 6 points. He should be burying McCain, not because he's McCain, but because he'sa repub. Its not a reflection a McCain as it is on the empty suit he's running against. As much as many hate Hil, her numbers would be better because she's better at presenting her facts. The Dems had better numbers with the last two idiots they put up. This won't mean anthing until the debates.
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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 01:37:43 PM »
This won't mean anthing until the debates.


I agree there.

Who do you think Americans will "like" more in the debates?

That's usually the guy who wins...

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 01:39:21 PM »
Are you drinking booze this morning?  Or is it afternoon already over there?   :D (j/k)  McCain is hardly "trailing Obama badly."  It's a deadheat and has been for weeks. 

Obama clearly gets the better media coverage:

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, "U.S. NEWS & WORLD REPORT," ADVISED NIXON, FORD, REAGAN, CLINTON: Absolutely. I do think the coverage has been unbalanced. "The Tyndall Report," which measures these things, he finds that the network news programs have devoted far more time to Obama than they have to McCain.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/21/lkl.01.html
Yes...yes I am drinking.  Have you seen the study I linked?  The press has been FAR MORE critical of Obama than McCain.

So all that face time is so that the Liberal Media can throw eggs at Obama.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 01:41:06 PM »

I agree there.

Who do you think Americans will "like" more in the debates?

That's usually the guy who wins...
I disagree with this.

Bush made a royal ass out of himself at the debates against Kerry and Kerry still lost.  Kerry wiped the mat with Bush at each debate.

The winner will be determined, for the most part, by which candidate can sling the most mud effectively.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 02:42:50 PM »
Yes...yes I am drinking.  Have you seen the study I linked?  The press has been FAR MORE critical of Obama than McCain.

So all that face time is so that the Liberal Media can throw eggs at Obama.

I browsed it.  I don't believe it.  Maybe I’m just not watching at the right time, but I trust my own eyes.  Are you telling me you haven't noticed the media infatuation with Obama?  How the heck is a journalist going to talk about getting shivers down his leg and maintain his objectivity? 

I think The Tyndall Report Gergen mentioned is right.  The media coverage has been unbalanced. 

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 03:24:25 PM »
Oh god, Its Decker the typical liberal lunatic weasel ala Alan Colmes who refuses to acknowledge reality and bases all of his opinions on biased and unsubstantiated studies. Trying to reason with you is like nailing jello to a wall. If your too stupid or too brainwashed to acknowledge Obama gets favoritism from the media, your either campaigning for Obama or your mother was on methadone when she was pregnant with you. Either way the results the same. Spains government isn't socialist, 911 was an inside job, buddists are as likely as muslims to commit acts of terror, the pope isn't catholic, The Dark Knight is actually a documentary shot in real time by Michael Moore, the list goes on and on. Take off the aluminum foil hat and get down from your roof.


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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 03:49:02 PM »
Spains government isn't socialist, 911 was an inside job, buddists are as likely as muslims to commit acts of terror, the pope isn't catholic, The Dark Knight is actually a documentary shot in real time by Michael Moore, the list goes on and on. Take off the aluminum foil hat and get down from your roof.

Haha  :D 


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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 04:18:48 PM »
911 was an inside job

Good call, bro.  67% of Americans agree with your statement.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 04:22:28 PM »
LMAOOOOOOOO 67% of what americans?

According to whom? Based on what? Farenheight 911? Loose Change? The fabrications, outright lies, falsehoods and fairytales from both moronic films have been debunked repeatedly. If 67% of actual americans actually believed that it was an inside job, dont you think this farce of a congress would have brought impeachment charges for that and not this nonsensical garbage about Iraq?


Get real dude.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 05:08:49 PM »
LMAOOOOOOOO 67% of what americans?

According to whom? Based on what? Farenheight 911? Loose Change? The fabrications, outright lies, falsehoods and fairytales from both moronic films have been debunked repeatedly. If 67% of actual americans actually believed that it was an inside job, dont you think this farce of a congress would have brought impeachment charges for that and not this nonsensical garbage about Iraq?


Get real dude.


He's a bullshit artist. I thought it was 67% wanted another investigation. Now it's 67% know for a fact it was an inside job? Which is it?

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2008, 07:18:02 AM »
Oh god, Its Decker the typical liberal lunatic weasel ala Alan Colmes who refuses to acknowledge reality and bases all of his opinions on biased and unsubstantiated studies. Trying to reason with you is like nailing jello to a wall. If your too stupid or too brainwashed to acknowledge Obama gets favoritism from the media, your either campaigning for Obama or your mother was on methadone when she was pregnant with you. Either way the results the same. Spains government isn't socialist, 911 was an inside job, buddists are as likely as muslims to commit acts of terror, the pope isn't catholic, The Dark Knight is actually a documentary shot in real time by Michael Moore, the list goes on and on. Take off the aluminum foil hat and get down from your roof.


I posted a study to support my point, assface.  Where's your proof besides your ranted namecalling?

What's more pathetic than bigmouthed knownothing named George Whorewell?

You'll have to let me know b/c I can't think of anything either.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2008, 07:21:40 AM »
I finally saw this ad this morning and I just have to say McCain is a goddam disgrace.  This type of propaganda lets me know that Karl Rove is pulling the McCain strings.

Why bring up issues when you can connect Obama to Britney and the other one?

I'm glad she's slapping McCain down b/c he did not seek her permission to use her likeness in the ad.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2008, 07:24:52 AM »
Are you drinking booze this morning?  Or is it afternoon already over there?   :D (j/k)  McCain is hardly "trailing Obama badly."  It's a deadheat and has been for weeks. 

...
Obama leads McCain by over 10 points in the great swing state of Wisconsin.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2008, 07:59:33 AM »
Are you drinking booze this morning?  Or is it afternoon already over there?   :D (j/k)  McCain is hardly "trailing Obama badly."  It's a deadheat and has been for weeks. 

Obama clearly gets the better media coverage:

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, "U.S. NEWS & WORLD REPORT," ADVISED NIXON, FORD, REAGAN, CLINTON: Absolutely. I do think the coverage has been unbalanced. "The Tyndall Report," which measures these things, he finds that the network news programs have devoted far more time to Obama than they have to McCain.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/21/lkl.01.html

In this case "better" can only mean MORE coverage but not positive coverage.

Obama got more coverage but that coverage was overwhelmingly NEGATIVE

that's the point

McCain's ad smacks of desperation to me and I think it will only help Obama, especially given America's love of celebrity.   


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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2008, 08:00:40 AM »
Msn covers obama positively.
FOX covers him negatively.

Did ya notice nobody is covering mccain at all?  Stale old awkward men aren't good for ratings.

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2008, 08:37:34 AM »
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,712999.story

According to this story the networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) had more coverage of Obama but the coverage was 72% negative

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2008, 12:35:05 PM »
Decker pipe down. Or better yet go through your litany of obscure, meaningless studies that contradict reality and are devoid of any independent verification to prove another argument based on fiction. What is your mission today? Going to prove that transfats cause genital warts? Thunderstorms are a part of the republican conspiracy to get government contracts with companies that make umbrellas? Hows the reception on that aluminum foil hat by the way?



Moving on there are two reasons why this poll is complete horseshit.

1) This poll gives a vague and incomprehensible definition of what constitutes negative or positive.

The center reviews and "codes" statements on the evening news as positive or negative toward the candidates. For example, when NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell said in June that Obama "has problems" with white men and suburban women, the media center deemed that a negative.

The positive and negative remarks about each candidate are then totaled to calculate the percentages that cut for and against them.



- OK, so by that estimation, any assertion by a reporter that says something based on relevant data related to polling numbers is NEGATIVE? If someone said that McCain has a problem with minorities and people under 40 is that a NEGATIVE? I'd call it a fact, and so would anyone else with half a brain in their head.


2)  Can anyone honestly make the argument that this poll isn't an obvious ploy to deflect the obvious and deserved criticism of the press and its coverage of the election? Think about it this way. If, as the study claims, Obama is being portrayed "negatively" ( whatever that means) 72% of the time when he is mentioned, but is being covered three times more by the press, wouldn't that still mean he is getting more positive coverage than McCain who is being negatively portrayed 57% percent of the time? If your mentioned much, much, much less and given "negative coverage" 15% less than the other guy, the other guy still HAS AN OBVIOUS ADVANTAGE OVER YOU.

Visual images and other more subjective cues are not assessed. But the tracking applies a measure of analytical rigor to a field rife with seat-of-the-pants fulminations.

What the fuck does this mean exactly?

Most on-air statements during that time could not be classified as positive or negative, Lichter said. The study found, on average, less than two opinion statements per night on the candidates on all three networks combined -- not exactly embracing or pummeling Obama or McCain. But when a point of view did emerge, it tended to tilt against Obama.--> LOLOLOL GIVE ME A BREAK
 

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2008, 02:20:44 PM »
How anybody can honestly argue that the media is not in love with Obama, is completely ridiculous.  I think as we go, they might actually do their damm jobs and look at the guy critically, then u might get some real negatives.
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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2008, 02:25:30 PM »
How anybody can honestly argue that the media is not in love with Obama, is completely ridiculous.  I think as we go, they might actually do their damm jobs and look at the guy critically, then u might get some real negatives.

Tell me about it.  They media is infatuated with Obama. 

The definition of "negative" press George Whorewell mentioned is funny.  Media manipulation. 

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Re: McCain ad calls Obama 'biggest celebrity in the world'
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2008, 02:30:17 PM »
How anybody can honestly argue that the media is not in love with Obama, is completely ridiculous.  I think as we go, they might actually do their damm jobs and look at the guy critically, then u might get some real negatives.

Dude, CNN had the Obama Presidential Seal appear in-between reporting stories, I doubt that qualifies them as being able to do a non biased job of reporting...ever.