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Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« on: July 30, 2008, 05:41:19 PM »
I've always heard that 500 to 1000 mg of vit C following a workout is advisable.

Today I was reading that Vit C (and E) kill free radicals in the body (cancer causing agents).

I'm also reading that free radicals are what triggers the inflammation which leads to muscle growth. 

So what's the deal?  Does a big dose of vitamin C following a workout slow some progress?

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 05:43:17 PM »
It can't just be free radicals.

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 05:48:23 PM »
my traine takevitamin c after workouyears hes huge so okaydo
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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 05:54:23 PM »

  Three great reasons to take Vitamin C after a workout.
   1. Muscular contraction propels lymph fluid through the lymphatic system propelling bacteria and macrophages towards the spleen for filtration and re-entry into the blood stream. Vit. C can help during the interim to reduce susceptibility to airborne vectors and micro-organisms.
   2. Vit. C is responsible for donating Hydroxyl groups ( OH) to the amino acids proline and lysine (Major components of cartilage {joint} tissue) creating "Hydroxy-Lysine and Hydroxy-Proline" thereby facilitating joint repair (depending on duration or intensity of training)
  3.  Increasing Glutathione is important to reduce too much free radical damage. Consider the following abstract:
                       Vitamin C elevates red blood cell glutathione in healthy adults
CS Johnston, CG Meyer and JC Srilakshmi
Department of Family Resources and Human Development, Arizona State University, Tempe 85287.

We examined the effect of supplemental ascorbic acid on red blood cell glutathione. Subjects consumed self-selected vitamin C-restricted diets, and, under double-blind conditions, ingested placebo daily for week 1 (baseline), 500 mg L-ascorbate/d for weeks 2-3, 2000 mg L- ascorbate/d for weeks 4-5, and placebo daily for week 6 (withdraw). Mean red blood cell glutathione rose nearly 50% (P < 0.05) after the 500-mg period compared with baseline, and the changes from baseline for individual subjects ranged from +8% to +84%. However, the increases in plasma vitamin C and red blood cell glutathione were not correlated (r = 0.22). At the 2000-mg dosage, mean red blood cell glutathione was not significantly different from the value obtained at the 500-mg dosage. After the placebo-controlled withdraw period, red blood cell glutathione did not differ from baseline. These data indicate that vitamin C supplementation (500 mg/d) maintains reduced glutathione concentrations in blood and improves the overall antioxidant protection capacity of blood.
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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 05:55:45 PM »
It can't just be free radicals.
Yeah! We gotta give some thought to our incarcerated brothers!

/i take a 500 mg chewable with each meal

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 07:18:52 PM »
240, ive seen a couple little snipets ..headlines of studies.. i didnt read them entirely.. but they said vitamin c blunted the stress adaption to exercise. however, i  wouldnt avoid it. the same is said for fish oil.

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 07:26:35 PM »
vitamin c pwo also helps to lower cortisol levels. So id say its pretty useful post workout :)

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 07:29:37 PM »
 Three great reasons to take Vitamin C after a workout.
   1. Muscular contraction propels lymph fluid through the lymphatic system propelling bacteria and macrophages towards the spleen for filtration and re-entry into the blood stream. Vit. C can help during the interim to reduce susceptibility to airborne vectors and micro-organisms.
   2. Vit. C is responsible for donating Hydroxyl groups ( OH) to the amino acids proline and lysine (Major components of cartilage {joint} tissue) creating "Hydroxy-Lysine and Hydroxy-Proline" thereby facilitating joint repair (depending on duration or intensity of training)
  3.  Increasing Glutathione is important to reduce too much free radical damage. Consider the following abstract:
                       Vitamin C elevates red blood cell glutathione in healthy adults
CS Johnston, CG Meyer and JC Srilakshmi
Department of Family Resources and Human Development, Arizona State University, Tempe 85287.

We examined the effect of supplemental ascorbic acid on red blood cell glutathione. Subjects consumed self-selected vitamin C-restricted diets, and, under double-blind conditions, ingested placebo daily for week 1 (baseline), 500 mg L-ascorbate/d for weeks 2-3, 2000 mg L- ascorbate/d for weeks 4-5, and placebo daily for week 6 (withdraw). Mean red blood cell glutathione rose nearly 50% (P < 0.05) after the 500-mg period compared with baseline, and the changes from baseline for individual subjects ranged from +8% to +84%. However, the increases in plasma vitamin C and red blood cell glutathione were not correlated (r = 0.22). At the 2000-mg dosage, mean red blood cell glutathione was not significantly different from the value obtained at the 500-mg dosage. After the placebo-controlled withdraw period, red blood cell glutathione did not differ from baseline. These data indicate that vitamin C supplementation (500 mg/d) maintains reduced glutathione concentrations in blood and improves the overall antioxidant protection capacity of blood.


Epic cut-and-paste.

240, ive seen a couple little snipets ..headlines of studies.. i didnt read them entirely.. but they said vitamin c blunted the stress adaption to exercise. however, i  wouldnt avoid it. the same is said for fish oil.


Brutal-mass-less dellusionalization.

vitamin c pwo also helps to lower cortisol levels. So id say its pretty useful post workout :)

The last thing you should worry about @ 160lb and not able to workout anymore.

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 07:32:49 PM »
Epic cut-and-paste.


Brutal-mass-less dellusionalization.

The last thing you should worry about @ 160lb and not able to workout anymore.

Epic Jealousy  ;)

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 07:35:38 PM »
Epic Jealousy  ;)

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 07:37:32 PM »
alex,
your use of quotations makes absolutely zero sense.
hope this helps.
maybe, take an english course?
french bastard.
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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 07:43:41 PM »
Take you antioxidants before exercise.

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 07:46:18 PM »
alex,
your use of quotations makes absolutely zero sense.
hope this helps.
maybe, take an english course?
french bastard.
 :D

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Re: Vitamin C following a workout - counterproductive?
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 07:48:06 PM »
Keep dellusionizing my ex-drug addict friend. Destroy your 19yo body with synthetic hormones, your future with senseless activities and your mind with an endless online life.

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