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Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« on: July 31, 2008, 07:51:13 AM »
The Media Fix Is In on Key Gay Issues
A columnist smears a witness testifying against permitting open homosexuals in the military, and the media ignore a California official abusing her office to advance same-sex marriage.

By Brian Fitzpatrick
Culture and Media Institute
July 29, 2008

The Fix Is In, Part 1: Misreporting a Congressional Hearing

CMI’s new Eye on Culture, “Media Big Guns Fire Away at Military’s Gay Ban,” addresses the barrage of biased media stories that preceded a Congressional hearing on the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy.  The Eye also discusses the appalling mistreatment by House members of a prominent witness testifying before a House subcommittee, and the phantasmagorical misreporting of the confrontation by The Washington Post.

Elaine Donnelly, President of the Center for Military Readiness, appeared in good faith before the House Armed Services Committee’s subcommittee on personnel to explain why the military should not allow homosexuals to serve. (The law, by the way, actually bans active homosexuals, and the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy contradicts the law.)  Donnelly was greeted with rage and rudeness.  She was berated by several U.S. Representatives, and a lesbian witness and Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.), both rolled their eyes as Donnelly testified.

Unfortunately for Donnelly, the fix was in at the hearing.  Rep. Tauscher, author of a bill that would forbid the military to “discriminate” based on sexual orientation or homosexual conduct, explained to CNSNews.com that the purpose of the hearing wasn’t to gather new information. The real purpose was to “lay the groundwork” for legalizing gays in the military under an Obama administration.  The panel declined to invite representatives of the Department of Defense to testify, because they didn’t expect they’d agree with the testimony.  Donnelly was an unwelcome wrench in the gears.

Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank commented on the “rage” present during the hearing, but in an Olympian feat of mental gymnastics, ascribed the vitriol to Donnelly. According to Milbank, “Donnelly treated the panel to an extraordinary exhibition of rage.”  His examples?  “She warned of ‘transgenders in the military.’ She warned that lesbians would take pictures of people in the shower. She spoke ominously of gays spreading ‘HIV positivity’ through the ranks.”

Donnelly presented evidence that Milbank apparently found implausible or offensive.  This is rage?  Milbank did acknowledge the anger expressed by various lawmakers, presenting it as justifiable.

Fortunately for the public, a reporter from The Hill was also present at the hearing.  The title of the Hill account gets to the heart of the matter: “Lawmakers Grill Critic of Gays in Military.” According to The Hill, Vic Snyder (D-Ark.) “chastised” Donnelly, Patrick Murphy (D-Penn) was “visibly enraged,” Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) said opposing the repeal of the ban “is absolutely cruel,” and Tauscher “rolled her eyes at Donnelly several times.” Donnelly’s testimony, in fact, “infuriated all but a few of the members present at the hearing.”

Reporting facts that enrage others is not the same as “exhibiting rage.” Smearing the witness with such misleading language is an obvious effort to discredit Donnelly, and a disservice to both Donnelly and the readers of the Post.


The Fix Is In, Part 2: Media Yawn as California Stacks Deck Against Marriage Amendment

What was the biggest political outrage virtually ignored by the liberal media this week?

As of this writing, only the Associated Press has reported that the California Secretary of State’s office is attempting to torpedo a proposed state constitutional amendment affirming man-woman marriage, by giving it the most repulsive ballot description they can get away with.  The AP story has been almost completely ignored by the media.

Following the California elites’ imposition of same-sex marriage (SSM), grassroots Californians placed Proposition 8, a Constitutional amendment that would define marriage as between a man and a woman, on the November ballot. In 2000, some 61 percent of Californians supported a ballot initiative affirming that marriage is the uniting of a man and a woman, so the pro-SSM elites are running scared.

How are the political elite responding? By gaming the system.  They’re trying to drive away voters by describing Proposition 8 in the worst possible light on the ballot. A California political blog observes that a ballot description can change the vote a few points in either direction.

The ballot originally described Prop. 8 as, in AP’s words, “a measure to limit marriage [to] between a man and a woman.”  AP reported July 26 that the ballot will now describe Proposition 8 as “eliminating the right of same-sex couples to marry.”  A proposal against something, especially framed as taking away somebody’s rights, is far less appealing to voters than a proposal for something.  Also, “The revised language also says California could lose several tens of millions of dollars in sales taxes if same-sex marriage were banned.” This is an argument straight from the talking points of Prop. 8’s opponents.

How could a fair, objective Secretary of State engineer such a travesty?  Perhaps the person occupying the office isn’t fair or objective.  California’s Secretary of State, Debra Bowen, received the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award this year for tilting at a liberal windmill, electronic voting machines.  She joins a list of recipients consisting mostly of Democrats. Two liberal Republicans, Gerald Ford and John McCain, have also been honored with Profiles, McCain for advancing a cause embraced by liberals.   

Former House Banking Committee Chairman Henry Gonzalez received the award in 1994, officially for spearheading the S&L and Iraqgate investigations.  Critics joked that the real reason was his “courageous” stonewalling of Republican requests to investigate Bill Clinton. As The Washington Times put it, “Maybe it was his noble effort to help cover up the Whitewater scandal.”

Profiles in Courage seem to be awarded at least as much for leftwing political hackery as for courageous service to the nation.  The California Secretary of State has given observers good reason to conclude she’s a political hack.  Her office has now sunk as low in credibility as political prizes from the Kennedy family, but the media aren’t talking about it.


Brian Fitzpatrick is senior editor at the Culture and Media Institute, a division of the Media Research Center.

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 07:59:48 AM »
I am going to ask an unemployed guy if he gives a shit about two dudes kissing in the desert.

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 08:59:29 AM »
that's not permitted in the boys club.

At least in public.


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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 10:47:18 AM »
sorry - I can't figure out how to embed daily show videos but this is pretty damn funny:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=177585&title=dont-ask,-dont-tell-hearing


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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 10:54:29 AM »
Funny u guys who don't are have not served, think this is a no big deal.  Even if u have gays in ur work place, u don't have to eat with them, sleep near them, privy to almost every aspect of their lives do u.  If ur a soldier, u will. It does not work....The US military is not a social experiment. All u will get is alot of gays bashed or killed.
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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 10:57:47 AM »
Funny u guys who don't are have not served, think this is a no big deal.  Even if u have gays in ur work place, u don't have to eat with them, sleep near them, privy to almost every aspect of their lives do u.  If ur a soldier, u will. It does not work....The US military is not a social experiment. All u will get is alot of gays bashed or killed.

There are plenty of gays in there now.

They won't compete with you for Obama so don't worry  ;) ;D

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 11:00:43 AM »
Funny u guys who don't are have not served, think this is a no big deal.  Even if u have gays in ur work place, u don't have to eat with them, sleep near them, privy to almost every aspect of their lives do u.  If ur a soldier, u will. It does not work....The US military is not a social experiment. All u will get is alot of gays bashed or killed.


Why not just ban gay bashing instead


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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 11:02:00 AM »
It is, but its going to continue...and our job is not to protect gays..but kill people and break things. Its forcing us to do shit we really don't have time for.
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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 11:06:05 AM »
It is, but its going to continue...and our job is not to protect gays..but kill people and break things. Its forcing us to do shit we really don't have time for.
forcing you to do what?

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 11:10:50 AM »
It is, but its going to continue...and our job is not to protect gays..but kill people and break things. Its forcing us to do shit we really don't have time for.

how much effort does it take to not kill someone?

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 11:11:17 AM »
Not suck cock, don't get excited. ..... :P

UCMJ actions, court martials, legal actions, medical, investigations....etc etc etc.
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 11:14:24 AM »
Not suck cock, don't get excited. ..... :P

UCMJ actions, court martials, legal actions, medical, investigations....etc etc etc.

Well none of that would have to happen if there wasn't a ban.

Just alot of cock suckers.......lol

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 11:24:13 AM »
Guys are going to go nuts dude....there are ALOT of very serious christians in the services, i can't imagine.
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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 11:27:09 AM »
Guys are going to go nuts dude....there are ALOT of very serious christians in the services, i can't imagine.

I don't thin it will happen in the next 8 to 12 years.   But it WILL happen.   It's just a matter of time.   And the serious Christians can eat sh1t or get over it.   And you know what?  they'll get over it and get along.   

I wonder if homo erotic jokes will still be popular like on Generation kill?

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 12:03:56 PM »
The gay is going around.....we joke all the time, it would really kill all that if we actually had gays.
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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2008, 03:02:04 PM »
I don't thin it will happen in the next 8 to 12 years.   But it WILL happen.   It's just a matter of time.   And the serious Christians can eat sh1t or get over it.   And you know what?  they'll get over it and get along.   

I wonder if homo erotic jokes will still be popular like on Generation kill?

Here's the fix for the lame problem: Unisex everything. No more just men or women berthing, showers, whatever.

When I was in I didn't give a rat's ass if the person next to me was a knob gobbler or a carpet munching dyke. Just do the damn job. What you do on your own damn time is your own damn business.  What you do on the job is the military's.

Now, that doesn't mean I didn't make fun of them.  ;D


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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2008, 03:05:35 PM »
And making fun of them will land u in my office and instead of making u a steely eyed killer I have to send u to sensitivity training or worse bounce u. Forget it.....
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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2008, 03:07:20 PM »
And making fun of them will land u in my office and instead of making u a steely eyed killer I have to send u to sensitivity training or worse bounce u. Forget it.....

sensitivity training in the military?



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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2008, 03:26:48 PM »
Oh yes....u laugh. We have eo/sexual harrasment etc. EO is racial sensitivity bullshit. Except if u get to be the EO NCO, which is a full time job and u go to the long course, that course assures u a starting salary of 50-60 grand giving the same class to corporate America.
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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2008, 03:43:08 PM »
Guys are going to go nuts dude....there are ALOT of very serious christians in the services, i can't imagine.

The gay is going around.....we joke all the time, it would really kill all that if we actually had gays.

so basically you're saying that there can't be gay people in the military because it would prevent a bunch of bigoted a-holes from having joke time

It seemed to work just fine in the past:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece





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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2008, 03:46:19 PM »
Oh yes....u laugh. We have eo/sexual harrasment etc. EO is racial sensitivity bullshit. Except if u get to be the EO NCO, which is a full time job and u go to the long course, that course assures u a starting salary of 50-60 grand giving the same class to corporate America.

lololol


Funny shit.  really.

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2008, 03:55:24 PM »
A friend in the military told me that they are accepting gays now not to recognize gay rights but so that soldiers can't say they're gay and get out of service.

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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2008, 09:40:54 PM »
A friend in the military told me that they are accepting gays now not to recognize gay rights but so that soldiers can't say they're gay and get out of service.

really?

I think your friend might be yanking your chain

you know what I'm talking about .....right?


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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2008, 03:40:42 AM »
Can't fudgepackers shoot sandniggas and bleed to death just as well as those who prefer vaginas? Allowing gays=more bodies to use up to secure 'our' oil and subjugate other nations....I think it's a great idea...
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Re: Chipping away at the ban on gays in the military
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2008, 03:48:49 AM »
I hate the State.