5 reasons FEDOR might be OVERRATED

[Geo]

To be the best... you gotta fight the best.

like who ?

[Mark Kerr]

To be the best... you gotta fight the best.

Are you drunk?

Fedor has fought and beat the best.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

He's not the only one that hasnt been beat.

And it's a lot easier not to be beat, if you dont fight the best. Or only fight once or twice a year. Josh fought 7 times in 2006. Fedor fought twice. Now tell me statistically who has the greatest risk of losing or getting injured?

But you guys dont think about that. All you see is a fight record that says 30 fights and no losses, even though half the fights was against cans. And half the worlds best HW's are missing. Including the no 1 competition in both ufc AND ex-pride.

To be the best... you gotta fight the best.

Bluto don't take lines from some cheesy ass MMA video

[Bluto]

like who ?

Like Josh and Randy.

If we take a look at the top-10 list of HW's Fedor only fought 3 on that list 

[Mark Kerr]

Like Josh and Randy.

If we take a look at the top-10 list of HW's Fedor only fought 3 on that list 

Fedor would beat both of them.

[Bluto]

Fedor would beat both of them.

Maybe. Maybe not. There's only one way to be sure.

[Dball]

I'm not feeling getting into this argument.  There are valid points here, but the reality is that until someone beats Fedor, he is the king.  Even in his decision wins, he dominates the fights.  He made Crocop look like he had no reason to be in the fight.  Nog was beaten pretty badly, twice. A decision win is a win.

So if it isn't Fedor, who do you propose is the best HW?

[BDsauce]

MMA will get you killed in the street!

[polychronopolous]

Like Josh and Randy.

If we take a look at the top-10 list of HW's Fedor only fought 3 on that list 

When you say top-10 I suppose you are talking about a CURRENT top-10 list. Are you failing to give him credit for previous fighters that were in the top-10 as well? That would be unfair considering some of the previous elite fighters have retired, faced injuries or just plain gotten past their prime. How many of those top 10 has Randy beaten? How many of those top 10 has Josh beaten?

[Bluto]

I wonder how well Fedor would do...


in a cage! 

A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME!

[Geo]

I wonder how well Fedor would do...


in a cage! 

A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME!

you just don't quit do ya ?

[Bluto]

you just don't quit do ya ?

winners never quit
and quitters never win

[Dball]

I wonder how well Fedor would do...


in a cage! 

A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME!

  Legitimate question.  Ask Crocop...

[Mark Kerr]

  Legitimate question.  Ask Crocop...

Fedor has great ground skills, Cro Cop doesn't.

Fedor would do very well in the cage.

[Dball]

Fedor has great ground skills, Cro Cop doesn't.

Fedor would do very well in the cage.

Ground skills have very little to do with the differences from to a ring to a cage.  Ring cut-off, stalking, positioning, it's all different. I'm confused as to what you are refering to.

[Mark Kerr]

Ground skills have very little to do with the differences from to a ring to a cage.  Ring cut-off, stalking, positioning, it's all different. I'm confused as to what you are refering to.

Ground skills have a lot to do with the difference's between a ring and a cage. In a ring you can corner someone and out strike them. You can't corner someone in a cage. That's why Cro Cop did so poorly in The UFC, Cro Cop is a striker.

Fedor has great submission skills. That's how he wins almost all of his fights. You can submit anyone in a cage, you don't need to corner your opponent to win. That's why wrestlers do well in The Ufc and do poorly in a ring. 

That's what makes Fedor the best fighter in world. He is very well rounded.

[MisterMagoo]

fedor mandhandled sylvia. so did arlovski.

arlovski is 1-2 with sylvia, having lost to him in their two most recent bouts by TKO and decision. arlovski never "manhandled" him and in their last two meetings he lost both times.

so just out of curiosity, who IS the best heavyweight? defend your answer.

[Bluto]

arlovski is 1-2 with sylvia, having lost to him in their two most recent bouts by TKO and decision. arlovski never "manhandled" him and in their last two meetings he lost both times.

so just out of curiosity, who IS the best heavyweight? defend your answer.

The point is that you use Fedor's quick victory over Sylvia to illustrate how good Fedor is, when in reality it doesn't say much since Sylvia lost against others nearly as fast before, not once, but twice.

[TheIronWarrior]

You have not addressed the question Bluto...

Who is the best HW fighter in your opinion?

For that matter who would you say is the beset P4P fighter in your opinion?

Defend your argument....

[Bluto]

You have not addressed the question Bluto...

Who is the best HW fighter in your opinion?

For that matter who would you say is the beset P4P fighter in your opinion?

Defend your argument....

Defend my argument? I'll defend each and every one of the 5 points posted on the first page and the whole point of this thread.
Lemme know which of them you wanna discuss

[Dball]

I think Fedor is, by a pretty decent margin, the best HW fighter MMA has, followed by Nog and Crocop (when he is in a non tested federation  )  I don't make any bones about that, so Im curious to hear who Bluto thinks the best HW fighter is.  An opinion is just an opinion, and I don't judge.  But he has been very adament in his assertion that it isn't Fedor, so who is it?

[Mark Kerr]

I think Fedor is, by a pretty decent margin, the best HW fighter MMA has, followed by Nog and Crocop (when he is in a non tested federation  )  I don't make any bones about that, so Im curious to hear who Bluto thinks the best HW fighter is.  An opinion is just an opinion, and I don't judge.  But he has been very adament in his assertion that it isn't Fedor, so who is it?

I'm sure Bluto thinks Kimbo Slice is the best MMA fighter on the planet.

[Dball]

I'm sure Bluto thinks Kimbo Slice is the best MMA fighter on the planet.

  STFU  No one is that dumb.  I would fall out of my chair...

[Bluto]

I think Fedor is, by a pretty decent margin, the best HW fighter MMA has, followed by Nog and Crocop (when he is in a non tested federation  )  I don't make any bones about that, so Im curious to hear who Bluto thinks the best HW fighter is.  An opinion is just an opinion, and I don't judge.  But he has been very adament in his assertion that it isn't Fedor, so who is it?

I have? When?

[TheIronWarrior]

Defend my argument? I'll defend each and every one of the 5 points posted on the first page and the whole point of this thread.
Lemme know which of them you wanna discuss

Did you not understand my post.. I said IYO WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST P4P HW FIGHTER?

Not defend your 5 points of discrediting Fedor. I would rather not argue something that has no point.