Author Topic: Poll shows McCain, Obama in dead heat.... (Read 4055 times)

kh300 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 05, 2008, 10:27:31 AM »

Quote from: Moosejay on August 05, 2008, 09:13:42 AM

well, dumbass, liberalism favors the blacks...either guy ain't great, I am independent business owner so of course vote repub always

Dems libs wanna tax the fuck outta me and give it to lazy ass blacks, whites, spics, chinese, whomever

all bases colvered for ya?

100% truth

The Coach · « **Reply #26 on:** August 05, 2008, 10:30:10 AM »

Quote from: Buffgeek on August 05, 2008, 10:03:37 AM

If I was an Obama supporter I would be worried about his inability to win the big states. In the primaries Hilariy won all the big states. How is that going to translate into the national election? Also I dont take a lot of stock in polls particularly in this race and most people are afraid of looking racist

I dont think McCain is a strong canidate and it wouldnt suprise me if Obama won, but again you have to carry at least some of the big states to get into the oval office.

Well he doesn't have to worry about that. He already said he's been to 57 states with 1 to go. It must be a really big state

The Coach · « **Reply #27 on:** August 05, 2008, 10:31:45 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 05, 2008, 10:11:38 AM

Big states? http://pollster.com/

Obama leads mccain in Penn 50 to 41%
Obama leads mccain in OH 46 to 43%

McCain leads Obama by .6 in Indiana, and Obama may select an Indiana Senator tomorrow for VP.
McCain leads Obama by .8 in FL, and has lost 5 points here in 2 months... not a good trend.

Obama leads Bush state New Mex by 6 points.
Obama in colorado by 1.6 points

Hell Obama leads in Virginia by almost 3 points. NO WAY he should win Virginia.

Bottom line is that Mccain has to reverse the polls in 8 states to win it. And he has to do this with 1/3 the money Obama has, in a receding economy where his position is "The economy is great". It's going to be a tough task. Only a fool would bet the rent $ on Mccain at this point in time.

You really love that link don't you Rob? is it the only one that shows those results?

240 is Back · « **Reply #28 on:** August 05, 2008, 10:53:37 AM »

Quote from: Buffgeek on August 05, 2008, 10:03:37 AM

In the primaries Hilariy won all the big states. How is that going to translate into the national election?

Hilary pwned Obama by 9 points in Penn primary.

Today, Obama is leading McCain by 9.1 points in Penn.

Obama also leads in Ohio, which Mccain NEEDS.
And the trend in FL is an interesting one...

Benny B · « **Reply #29 on:** August 05, 2008, 10:54:14 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on August 05, 2008, 10:31:45 AM

You really love that link don't you Rob? is it the only one that shows those results?

It is a composite of all of the major pollsters, is constantly updated, and gives a state-by-state breakdown. It probably gives the best analysis you'll find on the polls, if you believe in them at all.

240 is Back · « **Reply #30 on:** August 05, 2008, 10:59:27 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on August 05, 2008, 10:31:45 AM

You really love that link don't you Rob? is it the only one that shows those results?

If you click on any state, it documents the aggregate/total averages of all major national polls. It's like the overall national average of state-by-state polls.

I agree completely that Obama is an inexperienced globalist gungrabber who looks sneaky.
I also agree that mccain is a pawn of the repub war machine, hapless and angry.
This thread wasn't about who is right/wrong.

It's about who is leading in the polls. State-by-state polls are highly accurate measurements of how the races are won. In the 2000 and 2004 elections, we knew the winner at 7 pm EST based upon OH, PENN, and FL outcomes. (It took much longer to be official, but Bush was declared winner both times at 7:01 PM because of these highly accurate models).

The trends are what are particularly disturbing. Mccain has lost ground in 15+ states, and is losing FL and PENN, and has lost 7 points actually, in FL, since Feb.

He needs to do something to reverse the state trends.

Moosejay · « **Reply #31 on:** August 05, 2008, 11:31:00 AM »

Quote from: kh300 on August 05, 2008, 10:27:31 AM

100% truth

Indeed it is truth.

Interesting noone addresses this here....

flagadajones · « **Reply #32 on:** August 05, 2008, 11:45:16 AM »

Quote from: phish on August 05, 2008, 06:57:55 AM

moose y u hate us blacks?

why do blacks hate whites?

why can they hate us, but we cant hate em in return?

m8 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 05, 2008, 11:50:04 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 05, 2008, 10:53:37 AM

Hilary pwned Obama by 9 points in Penn primary.

Today, Obama is leading McCain by 9.1 points in Penn.

Obama also leads in Ohio, which Mccain NEEDS.
And the trend in FL is an interesting one...

Why is it that Florida doesn't like the black man?

Benny B · « **Reply #34 on:** August 05, 2008, 11:58:07 AM »

Quote from: m8 on August 05, 2008, 11:50:04 AM

Why is it that Florida doesn't like the black man?

right wing jews, rednecks, repube loving cubans...

youandme · « **Reply #35 on:** August 05, 2008, 12:25:47 PM »

Quote from: Benny Blanco on August 05, 2008, 11:58:07 AM

right wing jews, rednecks, repube loving cubans...

BB, if I were a betting man, I would bet the ranch that you were never interested in politics until Obama announced he was runing for president, don't know anything about politics as well other than the words that come out of messiahobama's mouth.

Benny B · « **Reply #36 on:** August 05, 2008, 12:28:28 PM »

Quote from: youandme on August 05, 2008, 12:25:47 PM

BB, if I were a betting man, I would bet the ranch that you were never interested in politics until Obama announced he was runing for president, don't know anything about politics as well other than the words that come out of messiahobama's mouth.

Where's the ranch located? May I see the deed?

timfogarty · « **Reply #37 on:** August 05, 2008, 12:35:40 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on August 05, 2008, 10:31:45 AM

You really love that link don't you Rob? is it the only one that shows those results?

there is also http://electoral-vote.com

youandme · « **Reply #38 on:** August 05, 2008, 12:44:29 PM »

Quote from: Benny Blanco on August 05, 2008, 12:28:28 PM

Where's the ranch located? May I see the deed?

Actually it's a family plantation. Why would you, you can't read.

Benny B · « **Reply #39 on:** August 05, 2008, 12:47:58 PM »

Quote from: youandme on August 05, 2008, 12:44:29 PM

Actually it's a family plantation.

Cool. Download the deed so I can have my lawyer look it over. I've always wanted one of those.

Moosejay · « **Reply #40 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:07:22 PM »

Hail America!

Hail Liberty!

Benny B · « **Reply #41 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:15:47 PM »

Quote from: youandme on August 05, 2008, 12:44:29 PM

Why would you, you can't read.

Wow, what a creative insult.

Interesting that you felt the need to go back and change your post to add something so lame.

gymguy · « **Reply #42 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:22:34 PM »

I don't know of a single person voting for Obama; and I live in Florida. Not a good sign for him...

Benny B · « **Reply #43 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:26:21 PM »

Quote from: gymguy on August 05, 2008, 01:22:34 PM

I don't know of a single person voting for Obama; and I live in Florida. Not a good sign for him...

Yeah, and I'm sure you are in touch with a diverse group of people.

The way things look right now, he doesn't need Florida.

From electoral-vote.com
Obama 289 McCain 236 Ties 13

24KT · « **Reply #44 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:35:07 PM »

Quote from: gymguy on August 05, 2008, 01:22:34 PM

I don't know of a single person voting for Obama; and I live in Florida. Not a good sign for him...

Don't worry Gymguy, ...I also know many people in FL, and a heckuva lot of them are.

240 is Back · « **Reply #45 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:41:18 PM »

Quote from: gymguy on August 05, 2008, 01:22:34 PM

I don't know of a single person voting for Obama; and I live in Florida. Not a good sign for him...

I know a lot of people who are gun-toting, reagan loving crackers. Lifetime Republicans of course.

They also work in construction, interior design, or tourism. And they aren't picking mccain, due to the fact they don't have jobs and "change", no matter how vague it is, might mean they change from being broke.

Tapper · « **Reply #46 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:44:30 PM »

Quote from: jaguarenterprises on August 05, 2008, 01:35:07 PM

Don't worry Gymguy, ...I also know many people in FL, and a heckuva lot of them are.

She's not lying. Her pyramid scheme overlords live there.

a_joker10 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:47:13 PM »

You could use realclearpolitics as well.

The only site I have seen the trends that 240 posts are pollster.

OzmO · « **Reply #48 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:50:02 PM »

What difference do the polls make right now anyway?

I heard Carter was ahead around this time by 33% and ended up winning narrowly.

And Dukakas was up 17% around this point.

BFD what the polls say now.

Moosejay · « **Reply #49 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:51:41 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 05, 2008, 01:41:18 PM

I know a lot of people who are gun-toting, reagan loving crackers. Lifetime Republicans of course.

They also work in construction, interior design, or tourism. And they aren't picking mccain, due to the fact they don't have jobs and "change", no matter how vague it is, might mean they change from being broke.

Lots and lots ain't pickin' Bama, either, because they feel shortchanged over Hillary