My first cycle at 18......

[Moosejay]

....first time ever. Some oral d-ball is all I did. 100 tabs over 6 weeks, If I recall correctly.

[Pollux]

How come you didn't give any to your friend?

LOL! 

[Moosejay]

How come you didn't give any to your friend?

LOL! 

Haha...yeah...he actually turned out to be a good bb....he won the Constitution State back in 1994....gigantic back.

I think he posed that day with me as a goof.

Note the properly cut posing trunks...not like the hideous marble sacks these goofs use today.

[Alex23]

Is that Matt mendelhall and ray Mentzer?

[Moosejay]

Is that Matt mendelhall and ray Mentzer?

Nah, we were doing the obligatory, "Arnold & Franco"

[AceRodstein]

I have seen more muscle on female bodybuilders. You're a small guy Moose.

[JohnnyVegas]

....first time ever. Some oral d-ball is all I did. 100 tabs over 6 weeks, If I recall correctly.

Same exact cycle I went on the first time-1 bottle of Ciba D-bol.

I went 1 tab week one, 2 tabs week 2..up tp 4 tabs then laddered back down. Probably about 6 weeks total but dont recall exactly.

All I remember is after the 2nd week (remember I am only on 2 dbol a day) I had gained like 20# and everyone was asking of I was on the juice....and I kept telling them no, I was just "eating" good.  

I have seen more muscle on female bodybuilders. You're a small guy Moose.

Todays female Bbers have 10 times the test in them than MJ did back then (and today!).

[Moosejay]

I have seen more muscle on female bodybuilders. You're a small guy Moose.

Yeah, I know.

[Moosejay]

Same exact cycle I went on the first time-1 bottle of Ciba D-bol.

I went 1 tab week one, 2 tabs week 2..up tp 4 tabs then laddered back down. Probably about 6 weeks total but dont recall exactly.

Ha...sounds about same as me!!!

All I remember is after the 2nd week (remember I am only on 2 dbol a day) I had gained like 20# and everyone was asking of I was on the juice....and I kept telling them no, I was just "eating" good.  

No one cared in early 80's. I'd literally go into the pharmacy, and my friend would sell me bottles of anavar and d-ball for $20...the pharmacist came out from counter one day, asked me if I knew what I was doing, I said "yes", and that was that!

Todays female Bbers have 10 times the test in them than MJ did back then (and today!).

Yes...utterly useless and disgusting. I'd like to take that whole leg of things down

[dutchmanart]

How come you didn't give any to your friend?

LOL! 

I just spit my drink out when I read that.  funny as shit. ha ha

[Moosejay]

I just spit my drink out when I read that.  funny as shit. ha ha

Yeah, if you knew him, you'd laugh even harder, dutchie

[knny187]

man....you were robbed & sold fake shit even back then

[Army of One]

JohnnyVegas and Moosejay, how much of the gains did you keep on your first dianabol cycle?Did you use any Nolva or anything at the end?

[240 is Back]

dianabol beats up on the heart. 

[The Coach]

....first time ever. Some oral d-ball is all I did. 100 tabs over 6 weeks, If I recall correctly.

My first cycle was through Dr. Robert Kerr at 16. It was d-bol and then some

[monstercalves]

How come you didn't give any to your friend?

LOL! 

 

[ManBearPig...]

dianabol beats up on the heart. 

links?

[240 is Back]

links?

can't recall where i read it.  something about AAS users having larger heart wall sizes. 
greater wall size = greater wall tension = greater blood flow required = greater propensity for damage.

moosey mentioned at 44 he's retired from lifting due to heart damage.  I wondered if there was a connection.

[monstercalves]

can't recall where i read it.  something about AAS users having larger heart wall sizes. 
greater wall size = greater wall tension = greater blood flow required = greater propensity for damage.

moosey mentioned at 44 he's retired from lifting due to heart damage.  I wondered if there was a connection.

this is the thing...... there are too many ppl arguing that anabolics are pretty safe... and others complaining that they were their downfall and that they defo kill.....

however there is no hard evidence with which to draw a decent conclusion....overall i mean

[240 is Back]

IMO it's all abuot recepters.  3-4 years ago, I remmebr lee priest telling us how a caffeine or aspirin makes him dizzy.  he's a hyper responder.  he feels what he takes.

it's the same way with receptors.  Some people have receptors which let liver or prostate cancer cells grow, some dont.  Some people will get the thick heart tissue and will have serious issues, some wont.

[spinnis]

Lol you didnīt get bigger then that for the rest of you life 

Maby that cycle ruined it all?

[JohnnyVegas]

JohnnyVegas and Moosejay, how much of the gains did you keep on your first dianabol cycle?Did you use any Nolva or anything at the end?

I didnt keep jack shit-as soon as I went off all the gains went bye bye.

I used HCG later on, with the same results, lost it all. HCG was a waste of money.

I actually was starting to become smaller after I ended than when I started, because when I came off my test would be at zero, and it would take a couple months for it to kick back in to a normal level.

The thing about Dbol/deca is how fast I would gain 20#, it would happen in 10-14 days. Everyone would ask if I was on, and I always said no 

[JohnnyVegas]

My first cycle was through Dr. Robert Kerr at 16. It was d-bol and then some

He prescribed roids to you at ag 16?? What a loser.

I still have Dr. Bob Kerr's steroid book form the early 80's. Back then it was the only medical source for cycling.

Dan Duchaine came out with the Underground Steroid Handbook a few years later-mid 80's.

[Moosejay]

I have seen more muscle on female bodybuilders. You're a small guy Moose.

Yes, yes I am.

[Moosejay]

JohnnyVegas and Moosejay, how much of the gains did you keep on your first dianabol cycle?Did you use any Nolva or anything at the end?

Bro, I don't even recall

But, I kept most of the gains