Pats stranglehold on the division gone????

[Fury]

Looks that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Body88's loading the revolver and contemplating downing that bottle of scotch first!

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

Love to agree with you but with the Pats ridiculously easy schedule, (.377 opponent's winning %--which is absolutely fucking retarded considering the Pats went to the SuperBowl)  there is no chance the Jets will make a dent in the AFC East.

10 wins used to be good enough to secure a wild card when there were only three divisions(and three wildcards), but not in today's NFL.

Winning your division is the safest security to ensure you're playing in the post season in this NFL era, and the Jets will not do that.

[body88]

Looks that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Body88's loading the revolver and contemplating downing that bottle of scotch first!

Oh brother, you think Farve is going to take the jets from 4 - 12 to 13 - 3? Another fury prediction that will be proven wrong by seasons end. Keep em coming

[body88]

Love to agree with you but with the Pats ridiculously easy schedule, (.377 opponent's winning %--which is absolutely fucking retarded considering the Pats went to the SuperBowl)  there is no chance the Jets will make a dent in the AFC East.

10 wins used to be good enough to secure a wild card when there were only three divisions(and three wildcards), but not in today's NFL.

Winning your division is the safest security to ensure you're playing in the post season in this NFL era, and the Jets will not do that.

The pats schedule was made by the NFL years ago, so it's not their fault. Also, they have to go to the West coast four times ( that is not an easy trip)..... and as you have said before, bad teams can get good in a hurry, we dont know how hard the pats schedule will be.

I think the Jets will be better, but in the end, their core is not as good as the patriots, and that is the difference maker.

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

The pats schedule was made by the NFL years ago, so it's not their fault. Also, they have to go to the West coast four times ( that is not an easy trip)..... and as you have said before, bad teams can get good in a hurry, we dont know how hard the pats schedule will be.

I think the Jets will be better, but in the end, their core is not as good as the patriots, and that is the difference maker.

Are you positive about that? That the NFL makes the schedule years in advance? I don't buy that at all. If that's the case then why do the schedule makers make prime time matchups the following year based on games played the previous year? It's not coincidence.

[Fury]

Oh brother, you think Farve is going to take the jets from 4 - 12 to 13 - 3? Another fury prediction that will be proven wrong by seasons end. Keep em coming

I'll delete my account if you can find it anywhere in my posts that I said the Jets will be 13-3. I believe I said, "Pats stranglehold on the division gone?" and then I implied that you were on suicide watch.


We could make predictions like you, though. Like the one where you were claiming that the Pats of last year were the greatest team ever assembled in any sport, would destroy the Giants in the Super Bowl and then went out and got EMBARRASSED.

[body88]

Are you positive about that? That the NFL makes the schedule years in advance? I don't buy that at all. If that's the case then why do the schedule makers make prime time matchups the following year based on games played the previous year? It's not coincidence.

The NFL schedule is based on a forumla adopted back in 2001..... The forumla states who plays who, not the NFL. The NFL can tell you what the 2009 schedule will be right now, I believe.

Prime time games are easy to predict....Colts - Pats, Dalles, Giants - etc. Games are changed on the fly, as you saw with the pats last year, they where put in primetime last min many times.

http://www.sbgglobal.com/nfl-football/nfl-schedule-formula

[body88]

I'll delete my account if you can find it anywhere in my posts that I said the Jets will be 13-3. I believe I said, "Pats stranglehold on the division gone?" and then I implied that you were on suicide watch.


We could make predictions like you, though. Like the one where you were claiming that the Pats of last year were the greatest team ever assembled in any sport, would destroy the Giants in the Super Bowl and then went out and got EMBARRASSED.

Fury says:

Pats are 4th best team in AFC last year.....Body 88 says the pats are best....Pats go 16-0
Red Sox are terrible pitching will hurt them.....Body88 says pitching will carry them to a ws win....Pitching carries sox to world series win.
Celtics wont win anything, and are to old.....Body88 says Celtics win title....Celtics win title.

Just stop, we all know your gig, you have no clue what your talking about

[Beefjake]

Don't know...

Jets got Faneca as Guard, young guys like D'brickshaw and Ferguson can get better on a hurry. That could lead to better lanes for Thomas. That would open up a passing game... Fast TE to dump the pass.

And I think that receivers just got some fire to their workouts as well.

Lots of positives for Jets. Even just that having Favre makes them more "real" is big for players!

Hows their D? Not great I guess...

[ATHEIST]

Fury says:

Pats are 4th best team in AFC last year.....Body 88 says the pats are best....Pats go 16-0
Red Sox are terrible pitching will hurt them.....Body88 says pitching will carry them to a ws win....Pitching carries sox to world series win.
Celtics wont win anything, and are to old.....Body88 says Celtics win title....Celtics win title.

Just stop, we all know your gig, you have no clue what your talking about

Bod i see youre warmed up for the season!

[ATHEIST]

people forget that 4 of the last 5 season Brett was horrible and was threatend to be benched. he had one good season out of five.
now he has to learn a new playbook and  new audibles. not to mention the NY media will not "princess" him like the GB media.
you cant honeslty say that the Jets will beat both the Pats and Bills twice. they will lose to the Pats 0-2 and may win one from the Bills at best, the Bills are much improved so thats 1-3 at best against the best teams in their div.

[body88]

Don't know...

Jets got Faneca as Guard, young guys like D'brickshaw and Ferguson can get better on a hurry. That could lead to better lanes for Thomas. That would open up a passing game... Fast TE to dump the pass.

And I think that receivers just got some fire to their workouts as well.

Lots of positives for Jets. Even just that having Favre makes them more "real" is big for players!

Hows their D? Not great I guess...

The Jets will contend for a playoff spot, but I dont think they will overtake the pats. The jets d is good, but its still young. They have some good players......I think they contend for the division next year. I said they where 2 years away last year, so I am going to stick with that theory.

[Fury]

Fury says:

Pats are 4th best team in AFC last year.....Body 88 says the pats are best....Pats go 16-0
Red Sox are terrible pitching will hurt them.....Body88 says pitching will carry them to a ws win....Pitching carries sox to world series win.
Celtics wont win anything, and are to old.....Body88 says Celtics win title....Celtics win title.

Just stop, we all know your gig, you have no clue what your talking about

Body says Pats are THE greatest team ever assembled in any sport....they lose Super Bowl to 14 point underdog.
Body says Sox will run away with the division...they blow 15 game lead and need a blown umpire call to win division and avoid having to go to Cleveland.
Body says Celtics aren't a championship team and probably won't make it out of Atlanta....Body brags and acts like he called it all along after Celtics win championship (that one really cracks me up).

I believe you have no concept of what you're talking about and it's been proven many a time that you no jack shit about everything not named Boston. 



14 point favorites. Lose Super Bowl. Dream season ruined. 

[body88]

Everyone look at bfury - he is clearly highly immature, and has nothing better to do than instigate web fights with mods on getbig. Way to go Fury - way to go

[Fury]

Everyone look at bfury - he is clearly highly immature, and has nothing better to do than instigate web fights with mods on getbig. Way to go Fury - way to go

I'm not instigating anything. Just responding to you like you respond to me. Stop acting like a child. You can't debate anything that isn't Boston related and you sure as shit can't debate anything without telling us how Boston is the greatest this or that.

You claim Boston's the best team in baseball. Then they go out get swept by the Rays, Angels 2x, almost by the Yanks and you avoid any talk of it like the plague. Then you sit on a thread (not responding to it for almost two weeks) until Joba gets hurt, and then you comment. Who's immature?

Anyway, calm down Suzanne. You've turned into a real Debbie Downer over the last year or so. Used to be pretty cool. Now you just bitch a lot.

[Andy Griffin]

Love to agree with you but with the Pats ridiculously easy schedule, (.377 opponent's winning %--which is absolutely fucking retarded considering the Pats went to the SuperBowl)  there is no chance the Jets will make a dent in the AFC East.

10 wins used to be good enough to secure a wild card when there were only three divisions(and three wildcards), but not in today's NFL.

Winning your division is the safest security to ensure you're playing in the post season in this NFL era, and the Jets will not do that.

The schedule is determined by a formula based (in small part) on the previous year's standings.  The way to determine each team's schedule is as follows:

6 games within the division
4 games against a division in the opposite conference (rotates)
4 games against a division in the same conference (rotates)
2 games against other teams in the same conference who finished in the same position in their division - this is the only part the previous year's standings plays in making the schedule


I agree that just adding Brett Favre (still great, I'm sure, but years past his prime) will not make the Jets much better...although they do have other weapons.

[CalvinH]

I can't see the Pats not being a good team but no as dominant as last year.

[ATHEIST]

I can't see the Pats not being a good team but no as dominant as last year.

not as dominant,probably..i mean it will be tought to beat 16-0.
im predicting the Colts to fall off a bit, just watch. they're getting old and i dont think their D will be as fast and dependable as last year.
Steelers will also faulter a lot.

[Beefjake]

The Jets will contend for a playoff spot, but I dont think they will overtake the pats. The jets d is good, but its still young. They have some good players......I think they contend for the division next year. I said they where 2 years away last year, so I am going to stick with that theory.

Ok.

Lets say that the Pats and the Jets get to the playoffs. Being in the same division, at what point would they play each other?

[Andy Griffin]

Ok.

Lets say that the Pats and the Jets get to the playoffs. Being in the same division, at what point would they play each other?

They could meet in any round...it used to be that teams in the same division could not meet in the divisional round (although they could meet in the wildcard round or conference championship), but that was scrapped in 1990 when the NFL added a sixth playoff team for each conference.

[Beefjake]

Ok - cool.

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

The schedule is determined by a formula based (in small part) on the previous year's standings.  The way to determine each team's schedule is as follows:

6 games within the division
4 games against a division in the opposite conference (rotates)
4 games against a division in the same conference (rotates)
2 games against other teams in the same conference who finished in the same position in their division - this is the only part the previous year's standings plays in making the schedule


I agree that just adding Brett Favre (still great, I'm sure, but years past his prime) will not make the Jets much better...although they do have other weapons.

SO what you're saying is that the next year's schedule is determined by the previous year, correct? The schedule is not predetermined years in advance, right?

[body88]

SO what you're saying is that the next year's schedule is determined by the previous year, correct? The schedule is not predetermined years in advance, right?

The formula was set up in 2001.....The formula deterimnes the team that will play one another. Again, your record has little to do with the schedule, and thats what you implied since you hinted towards prime time games, and thought the NFL gave the pats an easy schedule. You came off like the NFL decided to give the pats a cream puff schedule.  What I meant about years in advance, is that the NFL can tell you right now who the pats will play next year (aside from their interconferance games) - in which record does have a slight impact.

Fact is they lucked out this year with the formula, if you call four west coast trips lucking out. Also, many teams on that schedule will improve, look at the Jets.


NFL schedule formula incorporates interconference and intraconference matchups.  Since 2001 the NFL schedule formula has each team playing every other team in the league at least twice, home and away.  The NFL schedule formula guarantees that every NFL city will see every other team in the league on a rotating basis.  The NFL schedule formula has teams playing teams in their own division, home and away in addition to playing another division.  What this means in terms of the NFL schedule formula is that some former division rivals still play each other.
Tennessee is in the AFC South but will still have games against former rivals Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland and Pittsburgh.  The same thing happens in the NFL schedule formula with Tampa Bay.  They still get to play their former NFC rivals Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit.  The NFL schedule formula also presents the opportunity for regional rivalry games like San Francisco at Oakland, Dallas at Houston, Pittsburgh at Philadelphia, etc.
The current NFL schedule formula really places an emphasis on playing common opponents.  Teams will play all teams outside of their division in their conference at least once every three years.  Every AFC team will play every NFC team once every four years.  The schedule is not based as much on last year’s record as the 2008 NFL schedule would indicate.  Look at the New England Patriots.  They went unbeaten in the 2007 regular season, yet they have the easiest 2008 NFL schedule.
The NFL schedule formula means that 10 of a team’s 16 games each season will be outside of the division.  Every team within a division will play 16 games with home and away against their three division opponents for six games total, four teams from another division within the conference on a rotating three year basis for another four games, four more games against teams from a division in the other conference and two intraconference games based on last year’s standings.  This is how the 2008 NFL schedule was made.
- NFL Schedule Formula at SBG Global

[Andy Griffin]

SO what you're saying is that the next year's schedule is determined by the previous year, correct? The schedule is not predetermined years in advance, right?

You can predict all but two opponents years in advance...the only variable is the 2 games within the conference outside of a team's own division or designated opponent division that year.  As far as when each game is played, that is decided year by year.

[body88]

You can predict all but two opponents years in advance...the only variable is the 2 games within the conference outside of a team's own division or designated opponent division that year.  As far as when each game is played, that is decided year by year.

Correct.... If a teams gets and easy schedule, its due to the way the formula fell that year.