Arnold vs. Sergio Olivia Mr O. 1972 Video

[Max_Rep]

Awsome. 

Back in 1977, I sat in the restaurant of the Howard Johnson hotel with Rick Wayne and Danny Padilla and Rick described this contest. He said that during one point of the pose-down Sergio turned to Arnold and did a most muscular (sort of like here in your face you 23 year old kid… yes Arnold was 23) and Arnold jaw dropped. Although Arnold won I remember him coming out in the magazines and saying “I’m so pissed off that I could win not being in my best shape. After seeing this clip I think I’d give the nod to Arnold. Sergio looks awesome but doesn’t hold his poses properly or long enough and his conditioning could have been better. Both are awesome though.   

[Pollux]

I take what Rick Wayne says with a grain of salt. He tends to embellish things.

[Max_Rep]

I take what Rick Wayne says with a grain of salt. He tends to embellish things.

Agreed... an understatement actually.

[gracie bjj]

great stuff,i love those old clips,thanks bro

[m8]

Arnold looks better. Sergio couldn't pose for shit.

[ibfasport]

sergio have a better physique but arnold was a better champion

[Pollux]

What's the more motivating song - You're the Best or Eye of the Tiger?

[Antony77]

Sergio looked awesome and that tiny waist just could not be beat. But Arnold had the height advantage and while they were equally big Arnold was more cut.

[Max_Rep]

Arnold
Thicker back
Better posing
Better chest
Better shaped biceps
Better conditioning although not 100%
took command of the stage

Sergio
Better front lat spread
Wider back
Better legs including better sweep
Smaller waist
Smaller joints giving the muscle groups a more dramatic "wow" factor. 

Add to the list:

[pumpster]

Both were a little smooth, neither were holding poses as well as they could've.

Could've been the lighting as well, and too much oil.

For the next years after that show, Schwarzie learned the lesson to expect Sergio and was always tanned and in top shape, unlike 72.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Sergio's posing sucked as usual and his conditioning although better than usual wasn't on par with Arnold , judging on that video and all the pics I seen I don't get how people can say Sergio was the clear cut winner because he doesn't look it , close sure , Sergio that much better I don't think so

[NarcissisticDeity]

For the next years after that show, Schwarzie learned the lesson to expect Sergio and was always tanned and in top shape, unlike 72.

lmfao top shape Sergio looks like he's guest posing , Arnold looks like a finished product

Sergio's posing sucked as did his conditioning , just because he has a better structure as base doesn't mean he should win the whole contest

[pumpster]

lmfao top shape Sergio looks like he's guest posing , Arnold looks like a finished product

Massive Arnold ball-wash, as per usual. He was not in top shape, said so and it's clear learned the lesson the next two years in fact it's pretty clear that it was Sergio that forced him in to his best shape.

Arnold's posing needed work there as well, plus his mid-section was loose. Thighs clearly weak there, glaring actually. Sometimes that thigh problem isn't obvious from various angles in pics.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Massive Arnold ball-wash, as per usual. He was not in top shape, said so and it's clear learned the lesson the next two years in fact it's pretty clear that it was Sergio that forced him in to his best shape.

Arnold's posing needed work there as well, plus his mid-section was lose, thighs pretty weak from various angles.

Why would Arnold need to be ion top shape if Sergio wasn't competing? you're full of shit as usual

Arnold's posing may have needed work but it was still leaps & bounds better than Sergios , lmfao his midsection was lose , stop watching with biased eyes for once , Sergio looked offseason , his posing was horrible especially the little belly wiggles ( WTF )

So Sergio should beat Arnold because he has fuller albeit softer quads? great logic  again I'm not saying either were the clear cut winner , it could have gone either way but these people who claim Sergio was so much better he was robbed are delusional

[Tombo]

Massive Arnold ball-wash, as per usual. He was not in top shape, said so and it's clear learned the lesson the next two years in fact it's pretty clear that it was Sergio that forced him in to his best shape.

Arnold's posing needed work there as well, plus his mid-section was loose. Thighs clearly weak there, glaring actually. Sometimes that thigh problem isn't obvious from various angles in pics.

you're picking out shit i can't even see lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

you're picking out shit i can't even see lol

Of course he is , he has to make shit up to validate his point of view

[JasonH]

Arnold looks way better than Sergio there. All I could see on Sergio was a lot of width and not much else - flat biceps, high lats and very little thickness - maybe it was just the poor quality filming but even so.

[kyomu]

I personaly like sergios physic more.
But I would have gave a vote to Arnold if i was a judge.

[NarcissisticDeity]

This picture clearly demonstrates the discrepancy between conditioning between the two

Arnold shows much clearer and defined separation in the biceps , triceps , traps , infranspinatus , teres , and lats and all three head of the deltoids , neither have any detail or development of the leg biceps and Arnold's calves are again showing better detail

This coupled with posing is exactly why Arnold won , Sergio looks better from an aesthetics stand point because he has a better structure , smaller joints , rounder bellies , etc but he's still an unfinished product , like Paul Dillett his posing & presentation were terrible , like Flex Wheeler he relied to much on his genetics to pull him out of trouble and that may have worked with , Poole and Sipes but not with Arnold

[Moosejay]

Awsome. 

Back in 1977, I sat in the restaurant of the Howard Johnson hotel with Rick Wayne and Danny Padilla and Rick described this contest. He said that during one point of the pose-down Sergio turned to Arnold and did a most muscular (sort of like here in your face you 23 year old kid… yes Arnold was 23) and Arnold jaw dropped. Although Arnold won I remember him coming out in the magazines and saying “I’m so pissed off that I could win not being in my best shape. After seeing this clip I think I’d give the nod to Arnold. Sergio looks awesome but doesn’t hold his poses properly or long enough and his conditioning could have been better. Both are awesome though.   

In 72 Arold would have been 25 years old.

[QuakerOats]

sergio have a better physique but arnold was a better champion

i agree, Sergio's body just looked better but Arnold was a better showman.

[kevcat]

Maybe if Sergio tried dieting for a contest for once he wouldnt have been so big and full looking.
I remember pics of a young Arnold before he learned about dieting and cuts being better than pure size, and he lookin enormous but he wasnt cut, which is why Zane beat him.
End of the day if any bodybuilder  came in with no abs in a contest they would lose no matter how big they are

[Moosejay]

Maybe if Sergio tried dieting for a contest for once he wouldnt have been so big and full looking.
I remember pics of a young Arnold before he learned about dieting and cuts being better than pure size, and he lookin enormous but he wasnt cut, which is why Zane beat him.
End of the day if any bodybuilder  came in with no abs in a contest they would lose no matter how big they are

In an interview, Arnold was ragging on how neurotic bb's were with their diets and such.

He said, "Me? I would always go to the House Of Pies a week before a show, and have a whole pie."

As if he were inhuman compared to the rest.

Spin.

[ibfasport]

Sergio was not really confident, many pose were wrong, facial expressions ridiculous
Arnold routine was perfect and confident

Sergio condition was better, see femoral, Sergio have bigger legs triceps and lats than Arnold, but he wasnt a true champion as Arnold 

[Moosejay]

Sergio was not really confident, many pose were wrong, facial expressions ridiculous
Arnold routine was perfect and confident

Sergio condition was better, see femoral, Sergio have bigger legs triceps and lats than Arnold, but he wasnt a true champion as Arnold 

Are you not the guy who got railroaded by thet 'B&A' character?