Mike Mentzer - 1980 Mr Olympia loss - Schwarzenegger wins!

[illuminati]

Just looked it up. On Musclememory.com it says Arnold was the winner. And, let's see.....looks like Mentzer got 5th.

This x2

Arnold won - End of.

IIRC none of the Judges had mike in 1st place - placed 5th where he deserved

[Rambone]

Just looked it up. On Musclememory.com it says Arnold was the winner. And, let's see.....looks like Mentzer got 5th.

Legit lol’d

[tommywishbone]

Mentzer got 5th?  Man I bet he’s mad.

[wes]

Just looked it up. On Musclememory.com it says Arnold was the winner. And, let's see.....looks like Mentzer got 5th.

[mong]

 I was there. 4th row sitting behind Joe Weider. Funny reading all the comments from people who weren't there. Joe Weiderr actually turned round and asked me if I thought Arnold should have won. My comment? Nothing! My friend jumped in with his pov and my response was never uttered. Woulda been pointless as my knowledge back then was severely limited. I thought John Terilli could have been in the Olympia that day. See what I mean? Not a f33cking clue. Although Terilli really grew into himself a few years later.

[beakdoctor]

The real kicker is Mentzer actually tied with Boyer Coe for 4th place but because Mike was such a pedantic,  pontificating,  pretentious bastard the judges said 'fuck him. 5th oughta shut him up!'

 Boy were they wrong.

[Humble Narcissist]

Remember seeing a VHS recording of this with my cousins when we were kids. It was originally supposed to air on TV, but then they cancelled it.

Being a huge Arnold fan at the time, everyone I knew felt that Arnold did not look his best. We (just kids at the time) felt that Mike Mentzer should have taken the win. I'm sure there are arguments against that, but to us he looked a bit better. Looking back at the reality now, by the time Arnold competed in the 1980 Mr. Olympia he had acted in about 9 projects (most movies and a few TV shows). His next role (after the Olympia) would have been Conan the Barbarian and so a win at the Mr. Olympia with consequent magazine covers serving as marketing was almost too well played. Still, for what it's worth, Arnold was to the Bodybuilding world what Hulk Hogan was to wrestling. Any time people heard Arnold was around things got 10x more exciting. He was a HUGE deal in the industry. Every gym had a poster or two of Arnold.



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The real scandal was Roger Walker taking 6th. Talk about a screw job.

[bigbychoices]

     

     Based just on the top  people ( others should have been in there not zane, dickerson or mentzer) But based on the top  that was chosen it should have been .1 Arnold, 2 Walker, 3 Coe, 4 Callender,5  Mentzer 6 Dickerson and the skinny swimmer Zane last... Case closed

[beakdoctor]

     

     Based just on the top  people ( others should have been in there not zane, dickerson or mentzer) But based on the top  that was chosen it should have been .1 Arnold, 2 Walker, 3 Coe, 4 Callender,5  Mentzer 6 Dickerson and the skinny swimmer Zane last... Case closed

This is how I would've had it. Coe was very close to his all time best. Huge and ripped. Really peaked. Same with Walker. Walker was bigger than Coe and almost as ripped. I think overall Walker jusr had ugly lines. Something about his genetics made him look weird- as if he had bitch tits even though he didn't.  Coe had a unique build too, very strange muscle shape but I probably would've placed coe ahead of Walker.

Im a fan of Callender but he was a little smooth at this show.

[DS Phil Hunter]

Bill Pearl said he thought Boyer Coe was deserving in his opinion of winning the 1980 Mr Olympia title that night and Dennis Tinerino said about Arnold Schwarzenegger that he had "seen better legs on a rocking chair". personally I felt Arnold beat everyone just on mass alone but lacked the quality. I think Dennis Tinerino should have placed higher and even could have been worthy of the win. Frank Zane although not at his best was still great. Roy Callender looked awesome but just wasn't big enough. Mike Mentzer looked decent but I don't subscribe to the theory he should have won the title although he could have placed higher. I wouldn't have placed Chris Dickerson second either.

[Rambone]

The real scandal was Roger Walker taking 6th. Talk about a screw job.

Walker relaxed from the front looks better than anybody there. Dwarfing that Austrian twink next to him

[illuminati]

Bill Pearl said he thought Boyer Coe was deserving in his opinion of winning the 1980 Mr Olympia title that night and Dennis Tinerino said about Arnold Schwarzenegger that he had "seen better legs on a rocking chair". personally I felt Arnold beat everyone just on mass alone but lacked the quality. I think Dennis Tinerino should have placed higher and even could have been worthy of the win. Frank Zane although not at his best was still great. Roy Callender looked awesome but just wasn't big enough. Mike Mentzer looked decent but I don't subscribe to the theory he should have won the title although he could have placed higher. I wouldn't have placed Chris Dickerson second either.

Goes to show how little they knew about Judging Criteria .
and There own Structural flaws & how they looked in the line up.

I remember Bill Pearl saying That the sport would have stood still if Arnold won after
A 5 year absence   
Hmmm I wonder if He Thought the exact same when he had his
years breaks & going back to win the Mr Universe a few Times.
No doubt he conveniently forgot about that.

[Humble Narcissist]

This is how I would've had it. Coe was very close to his all time best. Huge and ripped. Really peaked. Same with Walker. Walker was bigger than Coe and almost as ripped. I think overall Walker jusr had ugly lines. Something about his genetics made him look weird- as if he had bitch tits even though he didn't.  Coe had a unique build too, very strange muscle shape but I probably would've placed coe ahead of Walker.

Im a fan of Callender but he was a little smooth at this show.

Coe's abs were always a huge weakness. It was structural so nothing he could do about it.

[illuminati]

     

     Based just on the top  people ( others should have been in there not zane, dickerson or mentzer) But based on the top  that was chosen it should have been .1 Arnold, 2 Walker, 3 Coe, 4 Callender,5  Mentzer 6 Dickerson and the skinny swimmer Zane last... Case closed

Yeah that seems a better top 6 result
Arnold still winning & Mike still in 5th - only placing I'd differ on is Dickerson as light as Frank was
He still had a better physique. 

[hench]

some screencaps I did a while back

[hench]

 

[Rmj11]

I'm getting ready to watch this Armageddon 1962 Alternate history show about WW3 and JFK on Military channel at 10pm. 

It made me wonder... what would have happened if Arnold had LOST the 1980 Olympia, and Mentzer would have won it? 

Would Arnold have experienced a downward spiral, despair?  Would Mentzer have gone on to win a few Olympias, become a Hollywood star or world class guru? 

Alternate history stories are so cool.

No, they really aren't. 4 superior competitors beat mentzer. That's 4. He came a distant 5th and for good reason. He looked like crap. Deflated chest. Narrow clavicles. Undeveloped back. Fat ass. Wide hips. Small arms with no peak. Deformed traps.  Poor posing due to shaking too much. How on earth was he ever going to win, really?

[joswift]

No, they really aren't. 4 superior competitors beat mentzer. That's 4. He came a distant 5th and for good reason. He looked like crap. Deflated chest. Narrow clavicles. Undeveloped back. Fat ass. Wide hips. Small arms with no peak. Deformed traps.  Poor posing due to shaking too much. How on earth was he ever going to win, really?

maybe in an alternate Universe? 

[Royalty]

What if Badell competed in ‘80?

[Rmj11]

maybe in an alternate Universe? 

Nope.

[ThisisOverload]

Nope.

Reading comprehension isn't a strength of yours, is it?

[knny187]

Nothing would change

[Humble Narcissist]

No, they really aren't. 4 superior competitors beat mentzer. That's 4. He came a distant 5th and for good reason. He looked like crap. Deflated chest. Narrow clavicles. Undeveloped back. Fat ass. Wide hips. Small arms with no peak. Deformed traps.  Poor posing due to shaking too much. How on earth was he ever going to win, really?

It was bullshit that he finished above Roger Walker.

[Rmj11]

Reading comprehension isn't a strength of yours, is it?

I can read very well.

[Rmj11]

It was bullshit that he finished above Roger Walker.

Yep. The real fix was that mentzer came 5th when he actually should of placed a lot lower.