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Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« on: August 13, 2008, 06:43:15 PM »
This is an exerpt from an article on yahoo about Fedor,as quoted from Dana White.  Pay special attention to how bad he talks about his former champion.

“He’s not the best pound-for-pound fighter, not even close, but he’s one of the four or five best heavyweights,” said White, who undoubtedly would be singing Emelianenko’s praises to the heavens the moment he got the stoic Russian’s name on a UFC contract.

“But we all have to thank him for getting rid of Tim Sylvia. He’d been stinking out the joint the last couple of years and Fedor did everyone a favor by beating him so easily and getting rid of him.”

Gooddaammnn, Dana is a bastard isn't he?  To think that this is the way he would talk about an athlete that held the torch as the top HW in his company for so long is unfathomable to me, just because he went to another federation.  And poor Timmy thinks they parted an amiable conditions. I guess to Dana, amiable just means he didn't actually cut Tim's throat himself.  He only sticks up for you as long as the goose is still laying the golden egg, after that, it's just dinner.

How long do you think it would take Dana to call Anderson skinny and overrated if He went over to affliction?


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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2008, 06:46:25 PM »
where did you read that quote ?

that's a pretty far fetched thing to say even for Dana White .


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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 07:00:54 PM »
he's actually right....


sylvia was stinkin up the place !

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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 07:02:58 PM »
he's actually right....


sylvia was stinkin up the place !
;) not the point

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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008, 07:10:54 PM »
dana's like a jilted lover,there's not a fighter in the world he's not gonna discredit after they lose to Fedor....


in a roundabout way it's almost as though Dana's become fedors bitch..

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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 07:53:18 PM »
dana's like a jilted lover,there's not a fighter in the world he's not gonna discredit after they lose to Fedor....


in a roundabout way it's almost as though Dana's become fedors bitch..

Truth. Ever since Fedor metaphorically spat in his face after he wouldn't bow down and sign that shitty contract Dana's been acting like a scorned little twat.

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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 10:05:54 PM »
Does anyone know the terms of the deal Dana wanted to give Fedor?

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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 01:47:13 AM »
from wht i can remember part of the deal was fedor couldnt do his precious sambo tournament which is something he wanna do
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 06:57:14 AM »
Dana no doubt brings a used car salesman type approach to the business I must say.

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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 07:46:59 AM »
He's not shy about putting his opinion out there, but I have to be honest, I have not disagreed with too many of the things Dana has had to say.  He was spot on about Tito Ortiz and he is right about Tim Sylvia.  It might not be PC for him to have said this about Tim, but it is true.  We have all said it here on this board.

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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 08:10:07 AM »
from wht i can remember part of the deal was fedor couldnt do his precious sambo tournament which is something he wanna do

The deal was Zuffa wanted exclusivity, which means Fedor could compete at all in any other org. or tournament of any kind, any place on earth.  They actually wanted rights to the image of Fedor as well.
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2008, 08:13:56 AM »
zuffa was right demanding that
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2008, 08:21:05 AM »
I think the part of the article that says Dana would praise Fedor the moment he got a contract with him says it all. I would like to hear who his top HW's are: in front of Fedor. 

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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2008, 09:14:11 AM »
zuffa was right demanding that

Not really, seeing as how they allow other UFC contracted fighters to compete in various other grappling and BJJ tournaments (ADCC,NAGA,Mundials).  Sambo isn't BJJ, but Fedor should be allowed to fine tune his craft just as some of the other fighters do.
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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2008, 10:50:18 AM »
Not really, seeing as how they allow other UFC contracted fighters to compete in various other grappling and BJJ tournaments (ADCC,NAGA,Mundials).  Sambo isn't BJJ, but Fedor should be allowed to fine tune his craft just as some of the other fighters do.
Spot on.  Tito, Hughes, BJ, they all compete in Abu Dhabi and BJJ tourneys.  Dana was wrong to try to keep Fedor from competing in Sambo.

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2008, 11:18:45 AM »
Not really, seeing as how they allow other UFC contracted fighters to compete in various other grappling and BJJ tournaments (ADCC,NAGA,Mundials).  Sambo isn't BJJ, but Fedor should be allowed to fine tune his craft just as some of the other fighters do.

they shouldnt. why let their fighters risk injury etc bad business decision.
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2008, 11:23:07 AM »
I don't fault Dana for not having "loyalty" to his athletes.  This is a business, not a family.  His job is to build the UFC brand in order to sell seats & PPV's.  

The reason these guys are fighting in the UFC is PRIMARILY for the money, not because of their loyalty to the UFC or their love for fighting.  If anyone of them got a better deal from another organization, they would jump ship.

There is no loyalty in any side...it's business.

That said, Dana fucked up the Fedor deal and was unable to hold on to Randy.  That is why he is now more of a PR front man...


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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2008, 01:44:35 PM »
they shouldnt. why let their fighters risk injury etc bad business decision.

It's not any more of a risk than training is.  It's not like their fighting full on MMA fights, they all compete in sub grappling competitions.  It's not like any of those guys don't roll with top level competition while training for a fight anyways.  Like I said, it's just keeping their craft sharp.
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2008, 02:02:38 PM »
Most fighters don't compete in that to keep their craft sharp, they seem to do alright anyway. Fedor fought 1 fight last Sambo, I doubt it did a whole lot for his craft. And rolling with top level competition in practice isn't the same as fighting top level competition that wouldn't think twice about hurting you in a tournament. There's risk of injury or that they will not clear to fight in time for UFC or the dates of both shows could clash.

Make perfect sense that Zuffa wants to avoid that especially considering that Fedor would be one of their biggest and most expensive signings.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2008, 02:25:00 PM »
Most fighters don't compete in that to keep their craft sharp, they seem to do alright anyway. Fedor fought 1 fight last Sambo, I doubt it did a whole lot for his craft. And rolling with top level competition in practice isn't the same as fighting top level competition that wouldn't think twice about hurting you in a tournament. There's risk of injury or that they will not clear to fight in time for UFC or the dates of both shows could clash.


Fedor has actually said that's the reason why he wants to compete in Sambo, and Grappling tournaments are simply that, they aren't actual fights.  You would know nothing about rolling in competition or practice so that goes out the window as well.  The UFC has champions that compete in tournaments and they don't seem to have a problem with them doing any of that, even Anderson Silva had a recent pro-boxing fight (this aint grappling but it just shows that a high paid posterboy is allowed to compete elsewhere) if anything, Boxing is more dangerous to an up coming fight than a grappling match is.
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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2008, 02:34:30 PM »
Fedor has actually said that's the reason why he wants to compete in Sambo, and Grappling tournaments are simply that, they aren't actual fights.  You would know nothing about rolling in competition or practice so that goes out the window as well.  The UFC has champions that compete in tournaments and they don't seem to have a problem with them doing any of that, even Anderson Silva had a recent pro-boxing fight (this aint grappling but it just shows that a high paid posterboy is allowed to compete elsewhere) if anything, Boxing is more dangerous to an up coming fight than a grappling match is.

Who cares why he wanna do it?
Practice isnt the same as a tournament where someone, who isn't your buddy and who wouldn't twink twice about hurting you, put 100% into beating you, how can you possibly think it's the same thing? And because of that there's risk of injury or that you would not clear for the next upcoming show. And with tournaments the risk of injury is even greater as there's more fights in less time and not proper time for rest/heal.
This is an UNNECESSARY risk for someone like Zuffa to take.

And they shouldn't let Silva do pro-boxing either. Not a smart business decision IMO.

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2008, 02:40:10 PM »
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This is an UNNECESSARY risk for someone like Zuffa to take.

And they shouldn't let Silva do pro-boxing either. Not a smart business decision IMO.

If youre willing to sacrifice all the things you have going for you here, maybe Zuffa, Fedor and Anderson can hire you as a consultant.  I'm sure they would love someone with as much MMA and buisness expierience as you have giving them advice.
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Re: Dana's loyalty to his athletes.
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2008, 06:02:24 PM »
i can't honestly say tim was stinking up the place. he was somewhat of a draw for the ufc. even if it was out of hate in wanting to see him get bet people watched his fights. dana should not have said what he did. thats like the owner of the green bay packers talking badly about bret farve now after he left..it would just be in poor taste and it was
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2008, 08:39:08 PM »
I definitely agree that was poor taste in Dana's part.  But what about the money Tim Sylvia brought in from Affliction, as well as the publicity Affliction received based on his fight there??