anyone do a test anavar cycle on here?

[theworm]

i just mention anavar to increase strength early in the cycle, then do 12 weeks of test 500....(plus propecia and arimidex).

[jtsunami]

I wouldn't recommend it, not many benefits, high cost

[Emmortal]

If you want strength gains, nothing beats drol.  Var is a pretty weak steroid, costly and doesn't have much benefit in the lower dose range (should be ran at 100mg)

[theworm]

yeah, i was thinking drol 25 mg x 3 weeks, just to jumpstart...

[Emmortal]

yeah, i was thinking drol 25 mg x 3 weeks, just to jumpstart...

Personally, I think running orals to jumpstart is kind of lame.  Yes, I used to do it myself and had been guilty of it, but really why not run it for 6-8 weeks?  I think people get a little too freaked out about liver hepatoxicity but most orals are fine.  There are prohormones that are much harsher on the liver which I wouldn't run for longer than 4 weeks (i.e. Superdrol), but drol, dbol, winny etc are fine really.

Obviously you should always take the proper precautions and if you are getting bad sides after being on them for longer than 4 weeks then stop immediately, but for the most part you should be good to go.

[Tapeworm]

I like it.  I notice strength gains on 50-60mg/day.  The vascularity it brings is awful tho!  Seriously, it's too much sometimes, particularly the veins on my forhead. 

It's one of the safest orals in terms of toxicity which is why I chose it.  It won't "kick off" for you tho, especially at only 25mg/day imo.  Strength gains are more slow and steady, but don't seem to level off so you'll still be surprising yourself 8 weeks in.  Doesn't do much for endurance in higher rep ranges for me, but 4-6 range seems to keep climbing.

Might run down to 30mg/day for cutting, but again would keep it for a lot longer than 3 weeks.

[theworm]

i think test plus anavar plus propecia is more hair friendly then 600 deca plus 200 test (to replace natural levels).


agree?

[Tapeworm]

Hmm, not as far as I know.  I didn't know deca was bad for hair, but I haven't really looked into deca.  Propecia would be an effective prohylactic, but there are lots of complaints of lost libido and impotence associated with it, even after stopping.

Also, with T + var, you'd have to run the T higher than 200mg/wk to get good results, and the T conversion to DHT is the hair killer.

[theworm]

i was thinking of test 500 plus propecia.

i know test to DHT is the "hair killer," but propecia blocks 90% of the conversion and has little to no effect on muscle growth.

from what i researched, the most hair friendly cycle is test plus propecia.

[jtsunami]

steroids will only make you lose your hair faster, you will lose your hair anyway if you are predisposed to losing it.  Some ppl may thin a little on cycle but that is not hair loss or receding of hair line, the thinning thickens out after cycle.  I wouldn't worry about hair loss and steroids, cause if you are getting hair loss no matter what it will take its course in due time.

[gettinswole]

steroids will only make you lose your hair faster, you will lose your hair anyway if you are predisposed to losing it.  Some ppl may thin a little on cycle but that is not hair loss or receding of hair line, the thinning thickens out after cycle.  I wouldn't worry about hair loss and steroids, cause if you are getting hair loss no matter what it will take its course in due time.

Very true, Someone very close to me has been on and off for nearly 20 years and he still has a full head of hair. If your not going to go bald naturally, steroids wont make it happen.

[Emmortal]

Worm, are you ever going to do a cycle or just keep making posts about what's the most hair friendly cycle and then sit back and worry about it all day long?

Shut up and inject already

[Luv2Hurt]

Worm, are you ever going to do a cycle or just keep making posts about what's the most hair friendly cycle and then sit back and worry about it all day long?

Shut up and inject already

   Thats what I was thinking too.

Just start shooting some gear in your ass already!  Geezz.

[Rimbaud]

Worm, are you ever going to do a cycle or just keep making posts about what's the most hair friendly cycle and then sit back and worry about it all day long?

Shut up and inject already

Exactly. If you're that worried about the possible loss of hair then don't do AAS.

[theworm]

Worm, are you ever going to do a cycle or just keep making posts about what's the most hair friendly cycle and then sit back and worry about it all day long?

Shut up and inject already

Just finsished my first cycle... it was only 300 deca x 8 weeks and 300 test x 10 weeks.  I gained a solid 14 on that, and I am very happy.  just trying to set up my next one.  I was thinking test 500 plus propecia OR 600 deca plus 200 test just to replace natural levels.

[Emmortal]

Just finsished my first cycle... it was only 300 deca x 8 weeks and 300 test x 10 weeks.  I gained a solid 14 on that, and I am very happy.  just trying to set up my next one.  I was thinking test 500 plus propecia OR 600 deca plus 200 test just to replace natural levels.

How was your hair effected on this cycle?  It should be a good indicator, because of the test/deca combo, of what you can expect from AAS usage because if you can use those two compounds you should generally be fine with most everything else.

[theworm]

no hair loss.

but, i still want to minimize gains...  i am going to eventually do test plus propecia cycles.  anything else i can add to it that is hair friendly?  (i cannot get EQ).