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McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« on: August 21, 2008, 01:03:37 AM »
He stood in front of an audience and said that he was going to ask some of them to step up and serve.

Yesterday he agreed in a town hall meeting that the only way forward in this war is to reinstate the draft.

He has said in the past that the only thing he would see justifying the draft is WWIII, but he also agreed 2 years ago we were in the early stages of WWIII.

He also said that if president, "HE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE IRANIANS" He is also gungho in confronting the Russians and you have to be in complete denial to not see the highly probable outcome of this is WWIII.

Safe to say a Vote for McCain is a vote for WWIII and the draft.

This guy has gone full neocon in his view of America's role in the world.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 02:58:02 AM »
He stood in front of an audience and said that he was going to ask some of them to step up and serve.

Yesterday he agreed in a town hall meeting that the only way forward in this war is to reinstate the draft.

He has said in the past that the only thing he would see justifying the draft is WWIII, but he also agreed 2 years ago we were in the early stages of WWIII.

He also said that if president, "HE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE IRANIANS" He is also gungho in confronting the Russians and you have to be in complete denial to not see the highly probable outcome of this is WWIII.

Safe to say a Vote for McCain is a vote for WWIII and the draft.

This guy has gone full neocon in his view of America's role in the world.

This is good. If there is a draft that means more people will be proactive about combatting the imperialist agenda simply because they don't want to get involved or be killed.
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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 03:09:20 AM »
This is good. If there is a draft that means more people will be proactive about combatting the imperialist agenda simply because they don't want to get involved or be killed.
yea, that would be true from the current vantage point, but you have to look at this through knowing what potential lengths neocons are willing to go.  Add a massive bombing of Iran, US troops facing off with "the renewed soviet threat"  and toss in a fresh round of terrorist attacks and those opposition voices won't matter for shit.  Fear and stupidity will trump as usual.  Plus at that point, what will it matter?  Opposition voices in WWIII?  LOL, that's past the point of no return my friend.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 03:39:51 AM »
He stood in front of an audience and said that he was going to ask some of them to step up and serve.

Yesterday he agreed in a town hall meeting that the only way forward in this war is to reinstate the draft.

He has said in the past that the only thing he would see justifying the draft is WWIII, but he also agreed 2 years ago we were in the early stages of WWIII.

He also said that if president, "HE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE IRANIANS" He is also gungho in confronting the Russians and you have to be in complete denial to not see the highly probable outcome of this is WWIII.

Safe to say a Vote for McCain is a vote for WWIII and the draft.

This guy has gone full neocon in his view of America's role in the world.








post some proof of the garbage things (everything) you just stated.

something of substance besides your socialistic rhetoric.
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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 04:12:42 AM »







post some proof of the garbage things (everything) you just stated.
In a New Hampshire speech on January 7, 2008: “We are in two wars. We are in a greater struggle that is going to be with us for the rest of this century.… These young people that are in this crowd, my friends, I’m going to be asking you to serve. I’m gonna be asking you to step forward and serve this nation in difficult times.  I know you'll respond as every young generation has in the past"



McCain agreeing that on reinstatement of the draft:


McCain on the Draft if there is WWIII and McCain not disagreeing that 2 years ago we were in the opening battles of WWIII. 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/25/mccain-world-war-iii-woul_n_109121.html

From his speech in Keene, NH: "My friends, I know how to handle the Iranians. And I'll handle 'em."
and again here:


His posture on Russia is all over the news, I'm sure you didn't miss that.
McCain: Russia deserves ‘harsh treatment’
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12121191/

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 05:07:50 AM »
yea, that would be true from the current vantage point, but you have to look at this through knowing what potential lengths neocons are willing to go.  Add a massive bombing of Iran, US troops facing off with "the renewed soviet threat"  and toss in a fresh round of terrorist attacks and those opposition voices won't matter for shit.  Fear and stupidity will trump as usual.  Plus at that point, what will it matter?  Opposition voices in WWIII?  LOL, that's past the point of no return my friend.

Well mate, they are running out anyway...so...where else are they going to get the troops for the Eternal War that is to be fought...
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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2008, 05:10:58 AM »
Well mate, they are running out anyway...so...where else are they going to get the troops for the Eternal War that is to be fought...
running out of what?  people?  At anyrate, I think you see my point, the time to bring it up is now and perhaps it's still to late.  Under the conditions it will be implimented, it'll be past the point.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2008, 06:28:40 AM »
YEP..THAT'S PROOF OF A DRAFT COMING. 

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2008, 09:35:07 AM »
"step forward and serve this nation in difficult times"

That my friends, is what we call the smoking gun. Because being an American is not about what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you.

If there is WWIII, I think it is a no brainer that a draft will be reinstated....in all countries.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2008, 09:47:12 AM »
so, what's wrong with a draft? about time some people stop squeezing everything from teh country and give a little back.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2008, 09:50:20 AM »
This is good. If there is a draft that means more people will be proactive about combatting the imperialist agenda simply because they don't want to get involved or be killed.

A valid point...

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2008, 09:54:21 AM »
yeah..just like having a draft from 1940 to 1973 stopped all the imperialistic blah, blah, blah or whatever you said...
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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2008, 09:56:34 AM »
"“We are in two wars. We are in a greater struggle that is going to be with us for the rest of this century.… step forward and serve this nation in difficult times"

That my friends, is what we call the smoking gun. Because being an American is not about what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you.

If there is WWIII, I think it is a no brainer that a draft will be reinstated....in all countries.


Kind of odd that's he's planning for it to happen...  One would think this is the kind of thing you bust your ass to resolve and keep from happening but here is McCain telling the young generation he's going to ask them to serve.  Telling America that there will be more wars.  Has anyone ever heard him say that he would work hard avoid this global collision corse, wwIII?  Nope, not McCain, he sings about bombing Iran and confronts the Russians with threats of hositlity.  Kinda looks like this is what he wants.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2008, 09:56:40 AM »
I, sir Hugo Chavez, am sorry for doubting your immaculate telepathic credentials.  It is quite clear by Senator John McCain’s words what he was really trying to seduce us with:  the same ole’ United States imperialistic propaganda. 

I am deeply sorry for my disillusionment comrade Hugo.

Please lessen my suppression as you see fit.






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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2008, 10:02:52 AM »
Kind of odd that's he's planning for it to happen...  One would think this is the kind of thing you bust your ass to resolve and keep from happening but here is McCain telling the young generation he's going to ask them to serve.  Telling America that there will be more wars.  Has anyone ever heard him say that he would work hard avoid this global collision corse, wwIII?  Nope, not McCain, he sings about bombing Iran and confronts the Russians with threats of hositlity.  Kinda looks like this is what he wants.

Sure that is your stance. But the flip side is, he is realistic. He has served the country for so many years he knows the pulse of foreign relations. His mindset is, it's better to be safe than sorry, and prepared rather than unprepared. Obama, wants to dismantle the nations 10.6 billion dollar missle defense shield.
What does that tell America? Everything is alright since I say so, and can talk down all aggressors?

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2008, 10:08:56 AM »
I, sir Hugo Chavez, am sorry for doubting your immaculate telepathic credentials.  It is quite clear by Senator John McCain’s words what he was really trying to seduce us with:  the same ole’ United States imperialistic propaganda. 

I am deeply sorry for my disillusionment comrade Hugo.

Please lessen my suppression as you see fit.


Priceless...

You ask for me to source my material which I am happy to do, so I go grab all the links and vids for you and is there any refuting of the material?  nope...  Just, "the same ole’ United States imperialistic propaganda" and a clever mini-castro p'wning

Thanks :)

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2008, 10:16:27 AM »
Sure that is your stance. But the flip side is, he is realistic. He has served the country for so many years he knows the pulse of foreign relations. His mindset is, it's better to be safe than sorry, and prepared rather than unprepared. Obama, wants to dismantle the nations 10.6 billion dollar missle defense shield.
What does that tell America? Everything is alright since I say so, and can talk down all aggressors?
why wouldn't he say "might ask" instead of "will ask" then  Why wouldn't he address the woman's call in the town hall meeting for reinstating the draft with it being only needed in the worst case scenario.  She addressed that we wouldn't have enough men/women serving to do the work needed and she saw the draft as the only way.  He agreed with everything she said.  There isn't much appearance here of prepared, as much as an appearance of planned!

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2008, 10:23:06 AM »
There isn't much appearance here of prepared, as much as an appearance of planned!

Having a plan....is prepared.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2008, 10:59:44 AM »
Damn, Hugo is a fucking psychic. He now knows the deepest workings of McCain's mind and knows, for a FACT, that the draft will be back. Damn. If you think the draft is coming back anytime soon, then you're a fucking idiot.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2008, 02:26:09 PM »
I don't think thats enough proof to say the draft will be back under McCain.  I understand the suspicion, but I don't think it will happen.  Seems that he is very encouraging to young people about serving in the military...of course but Obama is encouraging service as well.  McCain does get too aggressive for my liking about some of the international issues.  However, even if he would support a draft, I doubt it would happen.  Too many would protest.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2008, 02:29:22 PM »
Too many would protest.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2008, 02:33:22 PM »
I don't think thats enough proof to say the draft will be back under McCain.  I understand the suspicion, but I don't think it will happen.  Seems that he is very encouraging young people to serve in the military...of course but Obama is encouraging service as well.  McCain does get too aggressive for my liking about some of the international issues.  However, even if he would support a draft, I doubt it would happen.  Too many would protest.
yes, but he opened that call with a note on "war" and ended with speaking on the answered call of "young" generations of the past.  That indeed puts a context to his words of service here.

“We are in two wars. We are in a greater struggle that is going to be with us for the rest of this century.… These young people that are in this crowd, my friends, I’m going to be asking you to serve. I’m gonna be asking you to step forward and serve this nation in difficult times.  I know you'll respond as every young generation has in the past"

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2008, 02:35:35 PM »
I hear ya...that is concerning.

We should be more focused on our economic struggles and how to prevent China from overtaking us economically in the next 10 yrs.

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2008, 02:36:19 PM »
Don't worry I can take care of that, with my little friend the - fire hydrant


hmmm... why do I image a white trash racist hyped up on cocaine after watching Scareface...

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Re: McCain will attempt to reinstate the draft.
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2008, 03:18:15 PM »
hmmm... why do I image a white trash racist hyped up on cocaine after watching Scareface...

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Hugo, do you need a job?

Seriously, your drunk doped up ways are getting sad. You post about being drunk at 10am like your in high school, and it's cool.

But it's sad.