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Re: Remember THIS guy? Driest condition i have ever seen. Must see
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2008, 03:00:37 PM »
Definitely amazing condition, also very cool guy, gave me some tips of training and nutrition.

those tips sure paid of right

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« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2008, 03:04:12 PM »
No flame to Alex because he looked sick  :o
But didn't he not even get a call out at his comp?
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« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2008, 03:07:44 PM »
No flame to Alex because he looked sick  :o
But didn't he not even get a call out at his comp?
Only because that package in the picture wasn't the one he brought on stage, last minute mistakes, other wise Alex would be part of the IFBB.

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« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2008, 08:54:19 PM »
Thanks for the post, and sorry i haven't contributed much.

Im 13 weeks out for another run at the nationals, i really want to make it happen this time.

keeping busy helping guys with upcoming shows, my daughter is almost 3 years old and my wife is pregnant. Life could not be more busy.  when it comes to contest prep im a machine. Not the best genetics or by far the biggest but will literally shred every bit of fat i can off my body. And to me, its fun. Anyways..

Things are going good, shopping for food, cooking, cleaning, working, my daughter, wife, home, training, cardio and diet keeps me structured.

 I know this sounds like a kiss ass thing to say but you guys are really cool and keep it real.
 It takes balls to post your pics on this board because you guys dont bullshit and fuck around. If you look great you get respect, if you look like shit you get the truth. No bullshit..
Any bodybuilder who wants to know how their progress is coming along just post up on Getbig, that should be real motivation. You guys gave me a good push last year and i plan on sharing again. Keep an eye out for me in 11 weeks. 

Im busy as shit but anyone who has contest prep questions, or just wants to bullshit,  just drop me a PM or email.. All you cool guys keep in touch.. thanks
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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2008, 09:15:11 PM »
Let me just add one thing about my contest. I was the first competitor called out in the second round. There were 26 guys in my class, i ended up tied for 7th which was as good as last for me.   I totally over tanned myself, had extremely too much oil on and dropped about 7lbs in 2 days.  It was a great competition, not to take away nothing from anyone but the guy who got second only lost the class by 2 points and placed fifth to me when i won at the USA..

The 4 hour flight and  time change and travel contributed to my demise, along with other petty problems such as no fridge or microwave in my room that was supposed to be there..
No fucking excuses, i fucked up! And i really shouldnt have. My prep for this show went awesome. But travel fucked me up.  I have never traveled to compete before.. I live In los Angeles  all the big shows are out here except the Nationals.   

I totally underestimated how difficult it is to do this shit.  and get it all together, especially by yourself..  In a few days i dropped a little over 7 lbs.. No excuses, i fucked up.. but did you see that i needed to lose 7 lbs in that pic..? by 2 weeks out(i posted those pics) .


ONETIMEHARD: dude you nailed it. Grainy ness is all about having your bodyfat lowwwwww.....Grainy is just an elusion of low bodyfat because all you see mostly skin and muscle very little fat.. So if you want to get shredded or grainy get lean......its easier said than done! 
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« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2008, 10:25:25 PM »
Thanks for continuing to share your unique and valuable perspective with us Alex. 

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« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2008, 10:29:28 PM »
The lower you drop your bodyfat the more conditioned you are, hence the more impressive you look, are you with me so far. Grainy skin is a condition of being ultra ripped, ten thousand time harder to reach then any other body type you can think of, common sense it takes more pain to get there, more knowledge, and more balls, therefore more reward from the judges, use your head.

Bodybuilding didn't use to be about how close to death you can get and still walk across the stage.  It use to be about creating the ideal physique.    Unfortunately that era was probably before you were born.

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« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2008, 10:57:50 PM »
Bodybuilding didn't use to be about how close to death you can get and still walk across the stage.  It use to be about creating the ideal physique.    Unfortunately that era was probably before you were born.

Probably so, but i want to share this with everyone.  I was in such a zone, i felt great.. My bodyfat was freaky, i was cutting my face shaving each day.. i loved this shit,,, i was even sleeping good at night. I thank the guys that were concerned about my health but man, i really felt fine.
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« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2008, 11:12:30 PM »
Probably so, but i want to share this with everyone.  I was in such a zone, i felt great.. My bodyfat was freaky, i was cutting my face shaving each day.. i loved this shit,,, i was even sleeping good at night. I thank the guys that were concerned about my health but man, i really felt fine.

Now that's sick. 

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« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2008, 09:53:41 AM »
Bodybuilding didn't use to be about how close to death you can get and still walk across the stage.  It use to be about creating the ideal physique.    Unfortunately that era was probably before you were born.
Its funny how the old school era will always think that the bodybuilders of their day were better bodybuilder, and believe me I think the GH guts today are out of control with 50% of bodybuilders, however the shredded guys today smoke the guys from the 70, in fact 80 % of the 70 bodybuilders couldn't even win a local show and the condition of the past... well.... I can achieve this condition while drinking beer everyday, my word, A few greats  ya, but for the most part its a greater challange in this era to break through bodybuilding and win titles. So excuse me if you don't approve of the risk, but challanges of this magnetude are not supposed to feel good, be easy, fun, laid back, have agood time. Torture, dedication, sufferment, discipline, courage, knowledge, persistance, mentally fit and you must dig deep in to ones soul to pull it off. If you bash this then it would be no different then you bashing mountain climbing, long distance running, soccer, and almost every professional endeavor because their is cualties in these fields and the risk is dangerous, but understanding how this type of approach can sooth your spirit is the reason why the stubborn courages exel.

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« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2008, 11:22:19 AM »
Thanks for the post, and sorry i haven't contributed much.

Im 13 weeks out for another run at the nationals, i really want to make it happen this time.

keeping busy helping guys with upcoming shows, my daughter is almost 3 years old and my wife is pregnant. Life could not be more busy.  when it comes to contest prep im a machine. Not the best genetics or by far the biggest but will literally shred every bit of fat i can off my body. And to me, its fun. Anyways..

Things are going good, shopping for food, cooking, cleaning, working, my daughter, wife, home, training, cardio and diet keeps me structured.

 I know this sounds like a kiss ass thing to say but you guys are really cool and keep it real.
 It takes balls to post your pics on this board because you guys dont bullshit and fuck around. If you look great you get respect, if you look like shit you get the truth. No bullshit..
Any bodybuilder who wants to know how their progress is coming along just post up on Getbig, that should be real motivation. You guys gave me a good push last year and i plan on sharing again. Keep an eye out for me in 11 weeks. 

Im busy as shit but anyone who has contest prep questions, or just wants to bullshit,  just drop me a PM or email.. All you cool guys keep in touch.. thanks

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Re: Remember THIS guy? Driest condition i have ever seen. Must see
« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2008, 11:38:51 AM »
Probably so, but i want to share this with everyone.  I was in such a zone, i felt great.. My bodyfat was freaky, i was cutting my face shaving each day.. i loved this shit,,, i was even sleeping good at night. I thank the guys that were concerned about my health but man, i really felt fine.
Ultra Low bodyfat should never make someone feel awful.  Its amazing how people think that it must be that way.


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« Reply #63 on: August 24, 2008, 11:48:20 AM »
Ultra Low bodyfat should never make someone feel awful.  Its amazing how people think that it must be that way.



Ultra low bodyfat will make many or most feel awful. There's really no way around it, even with pharmacological intervention it's tough. There's a bunch of systems that rebel. Could be compared to a depressed state mentally since neurochemicals for example change for the worse.

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« Reply #64 on: August 24, 2008, 11:52:11 AM »
Ultra low bodyfat will make many or most feel awful. There's really no way around it, even with pharmacological intervention it's tough. There's a bunch of systems that rebel. Could be compared to a depressed state mentally since neurochemicals for example change for the worse.

I think what makes someone feel awful is inadequate nutrient content in their foods.  Oatmeal or rice is not a good choice when it comes to nutrient content. Couple that with the ignorance many have regarding the importance of fruit and you certainly are setting yourself up for misery as your body is demanding these vitamins and minerals, phytochemicals that can only be had through fruits and combination eating.

Multivitamins will not suffice.  If someone feels awful on a diet it is a clear sign their body is lacking a nutrient or mineral.  Most traditional "bodybuilder" diets are horrible.

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« Reply #65 on: August 24, 2008, 11:59:07 AM »
I think what makes someone feel awful is inadequate nutrient content in their foods.  Oatmeal or rice is not a good choice when it comes to nutrient content. Couple that with the ignorance many have regarding the importance of fruit and you certainly are setting yourself up for misery as your body is demanding these vitamins and minerals, phytochemicals that can only be had through fruits and combination eating.

Multivitamins will not suffice.  If someone feels awful on a diet it is a clear sign their body is lacking a nutrient or mineral.  Most traditional "bodybuilder" diets are horrible.

Phytochemicals will not fix the dopamine, norepinephrine, leptin etc signals that are affected when you're below your set-point. Testosterone will be low too, as will your thyroid.

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« Reply #66 on: August 24, 2008, 11:59:46 AM »
I think what makes someone feel awful is inadequate nutrient content in their foods.  Oatmeal or rice is not a good choice when it comes to nutrient content. Couple that with the ignorance many have regarding the importance of fruit and you certainly are setting yourself up for misery as your body is demanding these vitamins and minerals, phytochemicals that can only be had through fruits and combination eating.

Multivitamins will not suffice.  If someone feels awful on a diet it is a clear sign their body is lacking a nutrient or mineral.  Most traditional "bodybuilder" diets are horrible.

Makes sense. 

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« Reply #67 on: August 24, 2008, 12:00:46 PM »
Munzer at his autopsy was the driest Ive seen.



Actually I'd call that a little "edematous."   ;D

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« Reply #68 on: August 24, 2008, 12:02:15 PM »
I think what makes someone feel awful is inadequate nutrient content in their foods.  Oatmeal or rice is not a good choice when it comes to nutrient content. Couple that with the ignorance many have regarding the importance of fruit and you certainly are setting yourself up for misery as your body is demanding these vitamins and minerals, phytochemicals that can only be had through fruits and combination eating.

Multivitamins will not suffice.  If someone feels awful on a diet it is a clear sign their body is lacking a nutrient or mineral.  Most traditional "bodybuilder" diets are horrible.

Even then you will feel awful because your body still demands more of everything.

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« Reply #69 on: August 24, 2008, 12:03:51 PM »
Makes sense. 

Do you think you'll be maintaining normal testosterone if you eat enough fruit? We know test goes down dramatically when energy and fat intake is low. You're not going to feel great with castrate test levels, which is what an ultra ripped true natural bb competitor will likely have at contest time. Take that guy you posted pics of, the guy who eats 7 grams of fat a day. The body will rebel in a number of ways eating like that.

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« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2008, 12:10:02 PM »
Its funny how the old school era will always think that the bodybuilders of their day were better bodybuilder, and believe me I think the GH guts today are out of control with 50% of bodybuilders, however the shredded guys today smoke the guys from the 70, in fact 80 % of the 70 bodybuilders couldn't even win a local show and the condition of the past... well.... I can achieve this condition while drinking beer everyday, my word, A few greats  ya, but for the most part its a greater challange in this era to break through bodybuilding and win titles. So excuse me if you don't approve of the risk, but challanges of this magnetude are not supposed to feel good, be easy, fun, laid back, have agood time. Torture, dedication, sufferment, discipline, courage, knowledge, persistance, mentally fit and you must dig deep in to ones soul to pull it off. If you bash this then it would be no different then you bashing mountain climbing, long distance running, soccer, and almost every professional endeavor because their is cualties in these fields and the risk is dangerous, but understanding how this type of approach can sooth your spirit is the reason why the stubborn courages exel.

I see what you are saying.

But

Go to Fogarty's site....take a look at the pics of each Mr. A/National's winner from 60's, 70's, 80's...they'd ALL stand up today.

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« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2008, 12:19:44 PM »
Do you think you'll be maintaining normal testosterone if you eat enough fruit? We know test goes down dramatically when energy and fat intake is low. You're not going to feel great with castrate test levels, which is what an ultra ripped true natural bb competitor will likely have at contest time. Take that guy you posted pics of, the guy who eats 7 grams of fat a day. The body will rebel in a number of ways eating like that.

I'm certain that Adam's continual insistence that everything's fine (i.e. too easy) is in large part due to some significant degree of delusion that he's managed to put in charge of monitoring his internal state.  That is not to say that he is necessarily disadvantaged because of this.  Actually it's most likely quite the opposite.  His mind bends to achieve his goals, and the same can be said for Alex.  It is requisite to the cutting process I have decided.  It's why I say "now that's sick" in response to Alex here; I mean it literally.  It's essentially how the Spartans in 300 had conditioned themselves to crave death, if only they could ever BE killed.

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« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2008, 12:36:04 PM »
Its funny how the old school era will always think that the bodybuilders of their day were better bodybuilder, and believe me I think the GH guts today are out of control with 50% of bodybuilders, however the shredded guys today smoke the guys from the 70, in fact 80 % of the 70 bodybuilders couldn't even win a local show and the condition of the past... well.... I can achieve this condition while drinking beer everyday, my word, A few greats  ya, but for the most part its a greater challange in this era to break through bodybuilding and win titles. So excuse me if you don't approve of the risk, but challanges of this magnetude are not supposed to feel good, be easy, fun, laid back, have agood time. Torture, dedication, sufferment, discipline, courage, knowledge, persistance, mentally fit and you must dig deep in to ones soul to pull it off. If you bash this then it would be no different then you bashing mountain climbing, long distance running, soccer, and almost every professional endeavor because their is cualties in these fields and the risk is dangerous, but understanding how this type of approach can sooth your spirit is the reason why the stubborn courages exel.
and where does the 3 grams of gear a week that you've admitted to taking enter the picture?

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« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2008, 01:18:23 PM »
and where does the 3 grams of gear a week that you've admitted to taking enter the picture?
And first of all I don't take 3 g's if I stated I was going to try it for a period of 4 weeks then thats all I did, however I usually hover around the 2 g mark per week and it is considered very mild in comparison to the pros, but don't be so stupid as to think that juice will turn you into Ronnie Colman when the fact of the matter is juice is one varible, nessessary of course, out 10 that is needed in order to be competitive in todays arena. I've been dieting for 2 weeks and I have 10 to go sitting at 235 with abs so don't talk to me as if your in my league, you are a fat bodybuilder wanabe. If you move 405 on deads for 20 reps to the ground, Deep squat 400 fopr 12 to the ground, and do tricep extentions with 2 plates per side then I will listen to you but you can match these lifts, you don't get down to 2 % like me and you never in 10 life times have striated glutes like me, but there is one think you got me beat at 24 hours a day on getbig and you still look like you do.