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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2008, 08:57:24 AM »
Maybe I should have said "pure form". Words can always only be a bad translation of spiritual truth. All they can do is act as pointers to the truth, the devine can never be captured directly. Furthermore, the words can be perverted into ideologies, which in the worst cases can lead to violence and murder in the name of God. We have seen it all in christianity and other religions. Today's methods of the ideologists are more subtle of course, at least in the more civilized parts of the world. Still their egos are mislead by their false interpretation of scripture. Your criticism is valid of course if applied to those false ideologies.
If you think about, thought distorts everything.  Language distorts thought.  It's amazing that we can communicate at all.

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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2008, 09:13:40 AM »
Paul denied the carnal callings of his flesh for one reason: He knew it would 1) be a hindrance to his service to the Lord; and 2) the pleasures of sin for a season would be nullified by the negative consequences therein.

Soren Kierkegarrd turned away from marriage......so what? Billy Graham has preached the Gospel to the ends of the earth and he's been married for over 50 years.

Hindrance to a non-existent datum.  God, Hell, Heaven do not exist.  They are articles of faith.  They are not centered on the here and now.  They are supernatural and otherworldly and as such, they are decadent to this life.  Why did Paul deny his carnal feelings?  He was impotent?  He was gay?  No, he destroyed his carnal capacity for the cause of some supernatural non-existent datum.

Survival? On the contrary, such has led more to man's DOWNFALL than anything else, especially pride, greed, lust, and anger.
That's b/c the author of the 7 deadly sins cast them in the most egregious light possible instead of trying to think through them and understand the different grades and nuances of each impulse.  It's a turning away from knowledge of those concepts in favor of willful ignorance.

The Church doesn't "fix" anybody. In fact, it is subject to those very same things.
I'm sorry but the promise of the Church is to put lost people on the path to God.  Divine grace in Christianity is not earnable though.  It is a gift....another complexity.  Walk the walk and talk the talk and you still might not have grace thrust upon you.

Your feeling insulted is no fault of mine. The simple fact is your claim that Christianity "decays the here and now" is utterly false. It's simply a matter of priority. The kingdom of God comes FIRST; the earthly stuff (which, as Jesus said, the moth can corrupt, rust can corrode, thieves can steal, etc.) comes second. But, both are important and an abundant life is to be had in the "here and now" and (as the hymn goes) "in the sweet by and by".  ;D


There's no "either/or" for a believer in Christ.
You think the Bible is Holy Scripture.  I don't.  I need arguments that are well supported....not cherrypicked verse.  By your own admission, the non-existent kingdom of god comes first and all else comes second.  I'm missing your point.  You are putting supernatural fantasy ahead of the concrete reality of life.

Christianity is predicated on "either/or"....either you are a believer or you are not a believer.  There is no middle ground.  Unlike Classical antiquity which offers the 'golden mean' where you have a thesis countered by and antithtesis merging (sometimes) into a synthesis.  Choice is inherent in dialectical reasoning.

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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2008, 09:34:13 AM »
If you think about, thought distorts everything.  Language distorts thought.  It's amazing that we can communicate at all.

There's always the truth behind the words. Even if uttered through distortion of thought and language, it sometimes shines through. True revelation happens when the truth transported by the words manages to get through to the truth we already carry within us.

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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2008, 09:42:36 AM »
Well, they say misery loves company I guess thats why atheist like Maher insist on making themselves heard? Since they are cut from the same stone I lump atheist in with the ultra liberal left wing queers, besides they all tend to vote the same. Bill Maher claims to be a comedian but I have yet to hear anything remotely funny from him. One one the best "Politically Inncorrect" shows he hosted was when Ted Nugent embarrassed him on the topic of gun control. Little wonder his show was canned.
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« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2008, 12:23:33 PM »
Hindrance to a non-existent datum.  God, Hell, Heaven do not exist.  They are articles of faith.  They are not centered on the here and now.  They are supernatural and otherworldly and as such, they are decadent to this life.  Why did Paul deny his carnal feelings?  He was impotent?  He was gay?  No, he destroyed his carnal capacity for the cause of some supernatural non-existent datum.

Your claim of "non-existent datum" is spurious at best. They are plenty of carnal capacities: stealing, lying, murdering, commiting adultery, etc., all of them have can have dire consequences both in the "here and now" and beyond.

And you think Paul suppressed whatever it was, merely because of "supernatural non-existent datum"? I don't think so.

Quite frankly, you (and I) would be in a world of hurt, if everyone took your advice and yielded to their carnal feelings. For example, I don't think you'd want your wife to do that, were she to have such feelings for another man.


That's b/c the author of the 7 deadly sins cast them in the most egregious light possible instead of trying to think through them and understand the different grades and nuances of each impulse.  It's a turning away from knowledge of those concepts in favor of willful ignorance.

PLEASE!!! The people who try to "think through them" succumb to them, resulting in damage and devastation to themselves and (even worse) to others.
 


I'm sorry but the promise of the Church is to put lost people on the path to God.  Divine grace in Christianity is not earnable though.  It is a gift....another complexity.  Walk the walk and talk the talk and you still might not have grace thrust upon you.

Incorrect, the walking the walk is (or at least, should be) an example and the result of the grace given by Jesus Christ. And, there's nothing complex about it. Love and grace is something that is GIVEN, not earned.

As the saying goes, "An apple tree isn't an apple tree, because it produces apples. An apple tree produces apples, because it's an apple tree." In other words, for the true Christian, the outward deeds are the RESULT of the Christ-like nature inside. The faith drives the works (the "walk"), not the other way around.


You think the Bible is Holy Scripture.  I don't.  I need arguments that are well supported....not cherrypicked verse.  By your own admission, the non-existent kingdom of god comes first and all else comes second.  I'm missing your point.  You are putting supernatural fantasy ahead of the concrete reality of life.

Try that again. It's putting the kingdom of God ABOVE the kingdom of this world. Of, if you prefer, the supernatural reality above the natural reality. Your claim is that such DECAYS the "here and now" of things on earth. That is categorically FALSE!!

Putting your treasure (or heart) into the things of this world, that can easily be destroyed in the blink of an eye, is rather foolish. Why else do you think that so many depressed people aren't necessarily the ones who don't reach their earthly goals but are the one that actually DO reach them?

In short, they got what they wanted but didn't want what they got.


Christianity is predicated on "either/or"....either you are a believer or you are not a believer.  There is no middle ground.  Unlike Classical antiquity which offers the 'golden mean' where you have a thesis countered by and antithtesis merging (sometimes) into a synthesis.  Choice is inherent in dialectical reasoning.

Try a little context please. The "either/or" reference was a response to your claim that focusing on a spiritual and Christian life means that the "here and now" (earthly life) is one of decay.

Again, such is categorically FALSE!! Many Christians I've known are happy and blessed people. And they exude such demeanor, REGARDLESS of their earthly circumstances. Rich or poor, well-fed or hungry, healthy or sick, with family or alone, they possess that.



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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2008, 01:11:26 PM »
Hmmm. So why does he support Obama? Obama is busy trying to convince people that he is a Christian and not a Muslim.

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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2008, 09:36:51 PM »
hey Mcnutjob...you keep quoting scripture to prove your points.this is like using the national enquirer to prove your points on current events.
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« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2008, 05:25:30 AM »
hey Mcnutjob...you keep quoting scripture to prove your points.this is like using the national enquirer to prove your points on current events.
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« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2008, 05:27:48 AM »
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« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2008, 05:55:01 AM »
hey Mcnutjob...you keep quoting scripture to prove your points.this is like using the national enquirer to prove your points on current events.

That’s because Decker and I are talking about Christianity, genius. This may come as surprise to you, but when people discuss the subject, they usually reference the Bible.

Come back when you get a clue and your common sense bulb switched.

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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2008, 06:30:39 AM »
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« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2008, 06:32:56 AM »
Disagree if you'd like, but there is no need to get ugly and resort to attacks and insults.  MCWAY is one of the best Getbig forum posters we have, whether he's discussing religion, politics or nutrition and supplements.  I always enjoy reading MCWAY's posts on any board.

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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2008, 10:27:38 AM »
Your claim of "non-existent datum" is spurious at best. They are plenty of carnal capacities: stealing, lying, murdering, commiting adultery, etc., all of them have can have dire consequences both in the "here and now" and beyond.
I wasn't referring to the deadly sins as non-existent.  I was referring to God, Devil, heaven and hell as non-existent.

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And you think Paul suppressed whatever it was, merely because of "supernatural non-existent datum"? I don't think so.
You just told me that Paul denied the pleasures of the flesh b/c it was a hindrance to his service to the Lord.  The lord does not exist in reality other than the imagination of Paul.  Paul saw christianity.  He developed an understanding of it.  That understanding includes an idea of a god.  Is that idea of god the same as an existing being or such?  No.

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Quite frankly, you (and I) would be in a world of hurt, if everyone took your advice and yielded to their carnal feelings. For example, I don't think you'd want your wife to do that, were she to have such feelings for another man.
I'm not advocating the grotesque characerization of human impulses and instincts as the author of the seven deadly sins did.  I love having lust in my marriage.  It works for me.  But the impulse underlying the concept of 'lust' is not a deadly sin in and of itself.  Application means a lot.  Where you see infidelity, I see an opportunity to jump out of the bathroom and attack my wife on the bed before she knows what's going on. 

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PLEASE!!! The people who try to "think through them" succumb to them, resulting in damage and devastation to themselves and (even worse) to others.
You only understand these impulses/instincts as evil.  And as I've shown you in the above example, they are not.
 
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Incorrect, the walking the walk is (or at least, should be) an example and the result of the grace given by Jesus Christ. And, there's nothing complex about it. Love and grace is something that is GIVEN, not earned.
Who's disagreeing with you?

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As the saying goes, "An apple tree isn't an apple tree, because it produces apples. An apple tree produces apples, because it's an apple tree." In other words, for the true Christian, the outward deeds are the RESULT of the Christ-like nature inside. The faith drives the works (the "walk"), not the other way around.
Who's disagreeing with you?

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Try that again. It's putting the kingdom of God ABOVE the kingdom of this world. Of, if you prefer, the supernatural reality above the natural reality. Your claim is that such DECAYS the "here and now" of things on earth. That is categorically FALSE!!

Putting your treasure (or heart) into the things of this world, that can easily be destroyed in the blink of an eye, is rather foolish. Why else do you think that so many depressed people aren't necessarily the ones who don't reach their earthly goals but are the one that actually DO reach them?
If you are living your life in this world according to principles that serve this imaginary afterlife and imaginary god, then this world's life suffers b/c of that distraction.  That's not really debatable is it?

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In short, they got what they wanted but didn't want what they got.
In any setting excessive egotism is bad.  I don't need to manufacture a god, a heaven and a hell to tell me that.

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Try a little context please. The "either/or" reference was a response to your claim that focusing on a spiritual and Christian life means that the "here and now" (earthly life) is one of decay.

Again, such is categorically FALSE!! Many Christians I've known are happy and blessed people. And they exude such demeanor, REGARDLESS of their earthly circumstances. Rich or poor, well-fed or hungry, healthy or sick, with family or alone, they possess that.
Either you are a believer or you're not.  Either you're saved or you're not. 

Are you saying that putting Heaven and God first in your life, i.e., modifying your behavior and thinking to coordinate with christian values, does not diminish the natural impulses/instincts in your person? 




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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2008, 11:47:04 AM »
hahaha ok Big L Dawg- gayer than a bean sprout salad.

pray your gay away.
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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2008, 11:52:32 AM »
That’s because Decker and I are talking about Christianity, genius. This may come as surprise to you, but when people discuss the subject, they usually reference the Bible.

Come back when you get a clue and your common sense bulb switched.


the name of the thread is anti religion (movie) this means ALL religion not just yours. So if i start a debate with you and keep quoting stuff by L Ron Hubbard and scientology R u going to take it serious.no you wont.and why would you its not what you believe.Right?well its the same way when you spout your plasms this and that its your gospel.not mine.
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« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2008, 03:19:29 PM »
pray your gay away.

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« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2008, 05:09:36 PM »
the name of the thread is anti religion (movie) this means ALL religion not just yours. So if i start a debate with you and keep quoting stuff by L Ron Hubbard and scientology R u going to take it serious.no you wont.and why would you its not what you believe.Right?well its the same way when you spout your plasms this and that its your gospel.not mine.

Decker SPECIFICALLY brought up Christianity, in our conversation. Therefore, when speaking with him about Christianity, referencing the Bible (especially when he makes the claims that Christianity decays the "here and now"), is quite logical when making the case against his statement.

 


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« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2008, 05:22:20 PM »
I wasn't referring to the deadly sins as non-existent.  I was referring to God, Devil, heaven and hell as non-existent.

I know that. And it was that with which I disagree with you.


You just told me that Paul denied the pleasures of the flesh b/c it was a hindrance to his service to the Lord.  The lord does not exist in reality other than the imagination of Paul.  Paul saw christianity.  He developed an understanding of it.  That understanding includes an idea of a god.  Is that idea of god the same as an existing being or such?  No.

I beg to differ, especially since Paul once persecuted the very group of Christians that he now calls his brothers. He didn’t just make this up, especially given his explanation for his conversion. Furthermore, he spent time with believers in Christ, including two of Jesus’ disciples (Peter and John) and Jesus’ earthly brother, James.



I'm not advocating the grotesque characerization of human impulses and instincts as the author of the seven deadly sins did.  I love having lust in my marriage.  It works for me.  But the impulse underlying the concept of 'lust' is not a deadly sin in and of itself.  Application means a lot.  Where you see infidelity, I see an opportunity to jump out of the bathroom and attack my wife on the bed before she knows what's going on. 
You only understand these impulses/instincts as evil.  And as I've shown you in the above example, they are not.

You don't see another guy humping your wife (and, if you're married, I hope that NEVER happens to you) as infidelity?



 
If you are living your life in this world according to principles that serve this imaginary afterlife and imaginary god, then this world's life suffers b/c of that distraction.  That's not really debatable is it?

And, this allegedly suffering occurs in what form?



 In any setting excessive egotism is bad.  I don't need to manufacture a god, a heaven and a hell to tell me that.

Who said anything about being excessive? I didn't.


Are you saying that putting Heaven and God first in your life, i.e., modifying your behavior and thinking to coordinate with christian values, does not diminish the natural impulses/instincts in your person? 

If you mean by "diminish", keeping them in check, the answer is "Yes". However, you see that as a bad thing; whereas I do not. As is mentioned in Scripture, there's pleasure in sin for a season. There are many times in life where acting on "natural impulses/instincts" results in short-term pleasure but long-term PAIN and heartache.





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« Reply #68 on: September 11, 2008, 11:56:30 AM »
I know that. And it was that with which I disagree with you.
I admired this man greatly: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/world/europe/03macquarrie.html?fta=y
If you can read his works, I'd recommend it.
The God in which Dr. Macquarrie believed was Being itself, a definition that to him made it meaningless to suggest that God was dead or did not exist.

I like that thought.  However for something to exist, it stands out, it is.  Where is God and where is Heaven and Hell?  They are nowhere b/c they do not exist.  They occupy the same plane as unicorns and liberal republicans.

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I beg to differ, especially since Paul once persecuted the very group of Christians that he now calls his brothers. He didn’t just make this up, especially given his explanation for his conversion. Furthermore, he spent time with believers in Christ, including two of Jesus’ disciples (Peter and John) and Jesus’ earthly brother, James.
They are believers.  Why?  B/c they have to be since god, heaven and the like do not exist.  Does one have to believe in the Statue of Liberty to verify its existence?
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You don't see another guy humping your wife (and, if you're married, I hope that NEVER happens to you) as infidelity?
Is there no sublimation in your universe?  Why should I have another guy humping my wife when I'm perfectly able to express the finer points of my lust for her by blind-siding her in the bedroom and having my way?

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And, this allegedly suffering occurs in what form?
A denigration of this life.  If you modify your behavior to accomodate the demands of a non-existent god to avoid a non-existent hell in order to enter a non-existent heaven, then you are not living according to the demands and rigors of this life.  You are denying yourself in favor of the non-existent stuff. 

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Who said anything about being excessive? I didn't.
I thought your quote was tapping into the psychological underpinning of religion itself:  kill the ego and be reborn.

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If you mean by "diminish", keeping them in check, the answer is "Yes". However, you see that as a bad thing; whereas I do not. As is mentioned in Scripture, there's pleasure in sin for a season. There are many times in life where acting on "natural impulses/instincts" results in short-term pleasure but long-term PAIN and heartache.
It's not just acting on the natural impulses, it's understanding them and working with them.

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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2008, 08:25:21 PM »
Usually I feel one should mind their own buisness and let others do as they wish.  In this case however, I feel hostility towards Organized religon is justified.  It has way too much influence on policy making and simply interferes in issues it has no right to.   

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« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2008, 08:47:56 AM »
This thread has been a great read.   :)

Over the years, I have seen a consistent pattern of the arguments and issues that both agnostics and atheists take up with Christianity.  The arguments and issues are NEVER truly about God and/or a personal relationship with Him.  Instead, time and time again, the beef is always with the religion or the practice of Christianity.  This is a legitimate argument, because when you look at the the actions of the everyday Christian (myself included) vs. what God's will is for our lives there's plenty of hard evidence to show the hypocrisy and reason for distrust.  But even the most scholarly of agnostics and atheists consistently miss is this: 

The practice of Christianity IS NOT THE EQUIVALENT of who God is or what God is about.  Christianity in it's truest sense only means that a person who believes Jesus Christ to be who he claims to be - God Himself acknowledges human imperfections and submits his own will to that of Christ.  This is where the personal relationship with God (Father, Son, & Holy Spirit) is the crux of Christianity and NOT the actions of those who believe.  Atheists and agnostics only look at the actions of the Christian, which makes total sense when you follow their thought process that there is either no God at all (atheist) or not sure exactly what the "higher power" is all about (agnostic).

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« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2008, 12:51:55 PM »
This thread has been a great read.   :)

Over the years, I have seen a consistent pattern of the arguments and issues that both agnostics and atheists take up with Christianity.  The arguments and issues are NEVER truly about God and/or a personal relationship with Him.  Instead, time and time again, the beef is always with the religion or the practice of Christianity.  This is a legitimate argument, because when you look at the the actions of the everyday Christian (myself included) vs. what God's will is for our lives there's plenty of hard evidence to show the hypocrisy and reason for distrust.  But even the most scholarly of agnostics and atheists consistently miss is this: 

The practice of Christianity IS NOT THE EQUIVALENT of who God is or what God is about.  Christianity in it's truest sense only means that a person who believes Jesus Christ to be who he claims to be - God Himself acknowledges human imperfections and submits his own will to that of Christ.  This is where the personal relationship with God (Father, Son, & Holy Spirit) is the crux of Christianity and NOT the actions of those who believe.  Atheists and agnostics only look at the actions of the Christian, which makes total sense when you follow their thought process that there is either no God at all (atheist) or not sure exactly what the "higher power" is all about (agnostic).

Are you dumb or insane or both?

There is no evidence for your fictional deity; that is the problem. The 'practice' of Christianity is irrelevant; the fact that its core belief system is entirely fallacious is not.
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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2008, 01:50:23 PM »
Are you dumb or insane or both?

There is no evidence for your fictional deity; that is the problem. The 'practice' of Christianity is irrelevant; the fact that its core belief system is entirely fallacious is not.
Come on, Colossus contributes things to the board in earnest.  There's no need to call him names.  He's not flaming you.

The psychology of christianity calls for a psychological suicide of the self.  The Way of christianity, of Christ's way, takes over naturally after that 'death.'

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« Reply #73 on: September 23, 2008, 03:03:38 PM »
This is easy......."If you don't like it, don't go to it"!!!   "If there is a movie, or a TV show at home you don't like,   you turn the channel"....!!!  :-X    Freedom of speech remember???!!!



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Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
Friday, August 22, 2008

By Roger Friedman
AP

Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie

“Religion is detrimental to the progress of society.” That’s my favorite quote from Bill Maher’s often brilliant, but often unfocused “documentary,” called “Religulous.” It opens in early October right after its debut at the Toronto Film Festival.

The articulate, quick-witted comedian sets out in this film — which was supposed to have been released last Easter — to prove that line is true. Directed by Larry Charles, the man who put "Borat" together so skillfully, "Religulous" is blatant about Maher’s feelings: religion is bad. All religions are bad. They are ruining everything.

If you go for that, then "Religulous" is for you. Unlike Michael Moore, whose controversial films at least allow stories to be told, Maher is not interested in other viewpoints. Rather, "Religulous" is a long Maher spiel that pauses only to underscore his own points.

At first the film is very funny as Maher gently mocks one organized religion after another. He questions just about everything in Catholicism, even though he was raised Catholic. (His mother is Jewish, but threw it all over for the father.) Everything from the Immaculate Conception to crucifixion re-enactments are covered. By the time “Religulous” is over, the faith-seekers in the audience will have scratched Catholic off their possibilities.

Not that the other major religious groups don’t come in for razzing, either. Maher is brutal to Orthodox Jews and just as nasty to Muslims. (He interviews gay Muslims in Amsterdam, a city where he also smokes a lot of pot and finds many easy laughs.) Mormons get it, and so do Scientologists, whom Maher mocks in London’s Hyde Park.

Maher sends up everything outrageous and unusual in religion, cherry-picking the fringe elements wherever he can find them. There’s no question that he’s serious in his endeavors, and for a while following him feels like it’s going to lead somewhere.

Alas, it doesn’t. Unlike "Borat," or even a Moore film, “Religulous” is a dead end. In the last quarter, the laughs peter out as we realize the exploration is pointless. The film concludes with a long, very not funny, tedious speech by Maher — in which he rails against religion — that should clear theaters before the credits start rolling.

Right now you can see a trailer for "Religulous" on LionsGate’s Web site. Interestingly, it’s linked another site called disbelief.net. Obviously, a parody site designed just for the film, disbelief.net is registered to an unknown group in the Cayman Islands. It features the quotes of Reverend Jeremiah Wright, videos from the Church of Scientology Web site and a link to a Christian yoga video collection starring (whatever happened to) ‘Northern Exposure” star Janine Turner.

“Religulous” is a tough call. Will audiences flock to theatres to see it? That depends on just how many atheists there are at the popcorn stand. Maher’s point, that the world would be a better place without any religions, that wars would be eliminated and there would be universal understanding, comes across simultaneously as utopian and cynical.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,408782,00.html

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Re: Bill Maher's Anti-Religion Movie
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2008, 11:16:34 AM »
This is easy......."If you don't like it, don't go to it"!!!   "If there is a movie, or a TV show at home you don't like,   you turn the channel"....!!!  :-X    Freedom of speech remember???!!!




Freedom of speech allows Maher to make a dumb movie and allows me to call his movie a dumb movie.  I probably will not watch it.  I prefer to be entertained when watching movies and avoid political movies (whatever their slant).