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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #275 on: August 26, 2008, 10:11:14 AM »
The way Christians act suggests otherwise. The SELFobession with salvation; it's a deal breaker and then the need to go out and 'save' others to confirm one's own delusion and obsession with the self IS solipistic.
Christians cannot 'save' others.  Only God can do that.  We are supposed to share the gospel w/people but we have no power to 'save' people.

Like you, I know people that claim to be Christians (that may be) that can pretty irritating and seem to come off  w/a holier-than-thou attitude but I'm glad I didn't stop that from me looking into who Christ was/is.  No person is going to be an adequate representation of Him.

Christ does not intend for his followers to be self-obsessed but we are concerned with others' salvation for their own sake.

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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #276 on: August 26, 2008, 10:11:57 AM »
Proverbs 21:19 (New Living Translation)

It is better to live alone in the desert than with a crabby, complaining wife.
How true ;D
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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #277 on: August 26, 2008, 10:14:07 AM »
Christians cannot 'save' others.  Only God can do that.  We are supposed to share the gospel w/people but we have no power to 'save' people.

Like you, I know people that claim to be Christians (that may be) that can pretty irritating and seem to come off  w/a holier-than-thou attitude but I'm glad I didn't stop that from me looking into who Christ was/is.  No person is going to be an adequate representation of Him.

Christ does not intend for his followers to be self-obsessed but we are concerned with others' salvation for their own sake.



what's your heritance stella ?

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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #278 on: August 26, 2008, 10:15:27 AM »
Christians cannot 'save' others.  Only God can do that.  We are supposed to share the gospel w/people but we have no power to 'save' people.

Like you, I know people that claim to be Christians (that may be) that can pretty irritating and seem to come off  w/a holier-than-thou attitude but I'm glad I didn't stop that from me looking into who Christ was/is.  No person is going to be an adequate representation of Him.

Christ does not intend for his followers to be self-obsessed but we are concerned with others' salvation for their own sake.



No, they can't because salvation is fantasy to begin with but the confirmation of one's own delusion provides immense emotional/egotistical dividends to the original solipsist.
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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #279 on: August 26, 2008, 10:51:57 AM »
BAM!  Moved to the religion board lol .....we had a good run ;D 



what's your heritance stella ?
Not sure what you are asking BlueDevil?
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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #280 on: August 26, 2008, 10:54:59 AM »
 

Not sure what you are asking BlueDevil?


your background, ie forefathers  ( germanic, celtic, whatever )

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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #281 on: August 26, 2008, 10:57:57 AM »
your background, ie forefathers  ( germanic, celtic, whatever )
Swiss on my father's side and German on mother's side.
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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #282 on: August 26, 2008, 11:02:46 AM »
Swiss on my father's side and German on mother's side.

excellent , reliable cheese  ;D

i just wonder why people from germanic tribes choose to forget their forefathers religion

and instead choose the one that was forced upon us with violence ( and adjusted to make the transition easier)

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Re: How many people here actually believe prayer has an affect on anything?
« Reply #283 on: August 26, 2008, 11:13:53 AM »
Swiss on my father's side and German on mother's side.

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