Author Topic: Kimbo vs Shamrock inked today (Read 2934 times)

Dball · « **on:** August 25, 2008, 11:36:29 AM »

Ken Shamrock will be the fourth man to face Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson when the two icons clash at EliteXC’s third installment of “Saturday Night Fights” Oct. 4 at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla. The headlining bout will anchor a live broadcast on CBS.

The 44-year-old Shamrock (26-13-2) beat out fellow candidates Sean Gannon and Brett Rogers, who called out Slice in May, for the coveted slot.

Shamrock, a 15-year veteran of the game who made his storied Octagon debut at UFC 1 in November 1993, has dropped his last five bouts in a row since 2005, including a lackluster showing against brawler Robert Berry at Cage Rage 25 last March.

However, “The World’s Most Dangerous Man” exudes substantial selling power for a match now only five and a half weeks away. A strong personality in and out of the cage, Shamrock’s 15 appearances in the UFC earned him international recognition alongside his original nemesis Royce Gracie .

Slice (3-0) earned a third-round victory against Brit James Thompson in his last foray for EliteXC in May. The bout was much criticized for its questionable officiating, placing Ferguson’s skill set in doubt after Thompson held the advantage for sizable stretches of the 11-minute contest. Ferguson holds previous wins over David "Tank" Abbott and Bo Cantrell.

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:03:27 PM »

Smart move on Elites part. If Kimbo wins, he is a beast who beat the worlds most dangerous man. If Kimbo loses, he was beat by a MMA veteran and it will be no big deal.

They are not going to put him with a young upcoming fighter anytime soon.

Let's look at Kimbo's record.

Fight #1 Kimbo beat up a old washed up boxer with hepatitis.

Fight #2 Fixed.

Fight #3 Beat up an old washed up drunk. That fight was fixed as well.

Fight #4 JT controlled the entire fight and took every punch Kimbo had directly on the chin. JT has the weakest chin in MMA and Kimbo couldn't KO JT. That fight was fixed as well.

Fight #5 Ken Shamrock. How long has it been since Ken has won a fight?

TheIronWarrior · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:32:55 PM »

This oughta be good......

MindSpin · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:52:12 PM »

Unless it's fixed, Ken will murder Kimbo, even though he is 10 yrs past his prime...

bigbalddaddy · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2008, 01:55:58 PM »

YOU READ IT HERE FIRST!!!

SHAMMY BY BRUTAL TOE HOOK...AHAHAHAHAHAHA

MindSpin · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2008, 03:08:06 PM »

Seriously. I know Ken is way past his prime and that he has been steadily sliding down hill for years. But, he does have real skills and the ability to show up well conditioned. Unless fixed, there is Kimbo is fucked.

gymrat75 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2008, 11:04:17 PM »

I bet Ken Shamrock was told that he could not take Kimbo down to the ground as one of the conditions of the fight $:-\$

americanbulldog · « **Reply #7 on:** August 26, 2008, 02:23:02 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on August 25, 2008, 12:52:12 PM

Unless it's fixed, Ken will murder Kimbo, even though he is 10 yrs past his prime...

Won't be the first time.......

Dreadlord · « **Reply #8 on:** August 26, 2008, 02:26:26 AM »

As much as I want Ken to beat Kimbo I doubt it'll happen. I hope I'm wrong though.
His reaction time has slowed considerably even though the skill is there. He's no Randy couture. I hope his experience will give him an edge to pull off a submission victory.

Ken is one of those old school tough guys and I hope he has a good gameplan other than stand there and slug it out. He beat one of my favorite fighters, Bas rutten twice back in his heyday.

While we're bringing out the old timers why not bring back the predator Don Frye?

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How about Gilbert Yvel Vs kimbo - Gilbert would tear kimbo apart.

big L dawg · « **Reply #9 on:** August 26, 2008, 04:28:56 AM »

ken would never be part of a fix in a fight.he has to much respect for the game for that.if kimbo beats him its because he beats him period

Ruffneck · « **Reply #10 on:** August 26, 2008, 04:48:51 AM »

Don Frye = God

coltrane · « **Reply #11 on:** August 26, 2008, 06:21:58 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on August 25, 2008, 12:03:27 PM

Smart move on Elites part. If Kimbo wins, he is a beast who beat the worlds most dangerous man. If Kimbo loses, he was beat by a MMA veteran and it will be no big deal.They are not going to put him with a young upcoming fighter anytime soon.

Let's look at Kimbo's record.

Fight #1 Kimbo beat up a old washed up boxer with hepatitis.

Fight #2 Fixed.

Fight #3 Beat up an old washed up drunk. That fight was fixed as well.

Fight #4 JT controlled the entire fight and took every punch Kimbo had directly on the chin. JT has the weakest chin in MMA and Kimbo couldn't KO JT. That fight was fixed as well.

Fight #5 Ken Shamrock. How long has it been since Ken has won a fight?

Exactly. Shammy should win this one, unless caught. I don't think he can take a bomb from Kimbo at this point in his game.

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #12 on:** August 26, 2008, 09:12:12 AM »

Elite realizes that they can't afford to have Kimbo lose yet (they are kinda in sink or swim mode right now), they need to get both him and Gina more mainstream exposure to the casual audience of CBS and build them both in the process, just like they will be building Cyborg as Gina's eventual opponent, and Brett Rogers as Kimbo's eventual opponent, which I think will lead to Elite's first attempt at a PPV.

MindSpin · « **Reply #13 on:** August 26, 2008, 10:10:05 AM »

Quote from: big L dawg on August 26, 2008, 04:28:56 AM

ken would never be part of a fix in a fight.he has to much respect for the game for that.if kimbo beats him its because he beats him period

LOL. Sure

windsor88 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 26, 2008, 10:13:34 AM »

Lots of money to be lost in this thread...lol.

Kimbo will beat the fuck out of Shamrock. I want Ken to win but it just isn't going to happen.

bigbalddaddy · « **Reply #15 on:** August 26, 2008, 10:49:16 AM »

Quote from: *ChuteBoxe* on August 26, 2008, 09:12:12 AM

Elite realizes that they can't afford to have Kimbo lose yet (they are kinda in sink or swim mode right now), they need to get both him and Gina more mainstream exposure to the casual audience of CBS and build them both in the process, just like they will be building Cyborg as Gina's eventual opponent, and Brett Rogers as Kimbo's eventual opponent, which I think will lead to Elite's first attempt at a PPV.

True, but if Ken wins then all of a sudden "he's back" and they have the "worlds most dangerous man"...could work both ways since most of the general population has no clue what type of rocky road he's been down. To them he could still be a figure in the sport...

big L dawg · « **Reply #16 on:** August 26, 2008, 11:35:10 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on August 26, 2008, 10:10:05 AM

LOL. Sure

do you have some sort of inside info that ken has threw fights before?or r u just all powerfull and all knowing.

gymrat75 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 26, 2008, 03:32:25 PM »

Even if Kimbo lost a close fight to Shamrock...he would still be a big draw because everyone looses at sometime or another.

onlyme · « **Reply #18 on:** August 26, 2008, 04:46:32 PM »

Quote from: big L dawg on August 26, 2008, 11:35:10 AM

do you have some sort of inside info that ken has threw fights before?or r u just all powerfull and all knowing.

He would like to think so. Shamrock will not throw a fight. If Kimbo wins he wins, but I think Ken will kick his ass. He may be a bit older now but he has the wisdom and is still pretty strong and a whole lot smarter than Kimbo. Kimbo has done nothing to impress me yet. He hit the last guy with some great shots and couldn't knock him out. Ken will get it on the ground and destroy Kimbo. Will someone please mark this post

windsor88 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 26, 2008, 04:53:10 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on August 26, 2008, 04:46:32 PM

He would like to think so. Shamrock will not throw a fight. If Kimbo wins he wins, but I think Ken will kick his ass. He may be a bit older now but he has the wisdom and is still pretty strong and a whole lot smarter than Kimbo. Kimbo has done nothing to impress me yet. He hit the last guy with some great shots and couldn't knock him out. Ken will get it on the ground and destroy Kimbo. Will someone please mark this post

you wanna make a wager?

QuakerOats · « **Reply #20 on:** August 26, 2008, 04:54:12 PM »

and the circus continues, a washed up has been against a never was.

Dball · « **Reply #21 on:** August 26, 2008, 06:16:59 PM »

Are we really having this conversation? If the fight goes to the ground, Kimbo can cancel Christmas, because it is over. And unless Ken is now functionally retarded, I would bet he is going to pull a GSP vs Serra II and take him down immediately. Ken can submit Kimbo, there is no question there. And in reality this will be his biggest fight ever, his legacy on the line, and I'm sure he knows that. Please don't count Shammy out of this just yet.

Remember how bad Collosus made Kimbo look on the ground, and I think even past his prime, Ken is far more talented than Thompson.

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #22 on:** August 26, 2008, 08:21:11 PM »

Quote from: bigbalddaddy on August 26, 2008, 10:49:16 AM

True, but if Ken wins then all of a sudden "he's back" and they have the "worlds most dangerous man"...could work both ways since most of the general population has no clue what type of rocky road he's been down. To them he could still be a figure in the sport...

Ken's body is shot, I know he's had problems with his pectorals, a nagging ACL problem since the Tito fight, and I think hamstring problems, plus he's looked pretty small and withered since getting off the sauce. JT's size gave Kimbo more problems than his actual techniques did. Ken dosen't even have a punchers chance, all he can hope for is that maybe Kimbo might slip and fall and Ken can jump on him and slap a quick leg lock on him, but I do see what you mean in the event of a Shamrock win. I'm getting tired of seeing Kimbo, but i'm much more tired of seeing Ken get beat up.

chaos · « **Reply #23 on:** August 26, 2008, 08:53:02 PM »

Quote from: *ChuteBoxe* on August 26, 2008, 08:21:11 PM

Ken's body is shot, I know he's had problems with his pectorals, a nagging ACL problem since the Tito fight, and I think hamstring problems, plus he's looked pretty small and withered since getting off the sauce. JT's size gave Kimbo more problems than his actual techniques did. Ken dosen't even have a punchers chance, all he can hope for is that maybe Kimbo might slip and fall and Ken can jump on him and slap a quick leg lock on him, but I do see what you mean in the event of a Shamrock win. I'm getting tired of seeing Kimbo, but i'm much more tired of seeing Ken get beat up.

Think Ken could get back on teh juice for this fight?

Tre · « **Reply #24 on:** August 26, 2008, 09:33:04 PM »

Quote from: Dball on August 25, 2008, 11:36:29 AM

Ken Shamrock will be the fourth man to face Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson when the two icons clash at EliteXC’s third installment of “Saturday Night Fights” Oct. 4 at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla. The headlining bout will anchor a live broadcast on CBS.

What has Kimbo done to earn the 'icon' label?