"Industry People": does the bodybuilding/fitness decline affects you?

[Alex23]

Does it affect your moods/makes you wanna think about another career path?

[McFarland]

What's this got to do with the price of gas in Dubai, India?   

[bodybuilder1234]

or golf for that matter

[The True Adonis]

[Alex23]

Are you saying their "blown" delluzionization probably affects their judgment and prevent them from facing reality?

[240 is Back]

What do you mean by decline?  Overall economy downturn, resulting in less need for elective items like used posing trunks and 1-on-3 sessions?  Or the whole mag sales thing?

[Army of One]

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[Alex23]

What do you mean by decline?  Overall economy downturn, resulting in less need for elective items like used posing trunks and 1-on-3 sessions?  Or the whole mag sales thing?

Has absolufuckinly nothing to do with any "downturn".

The general lack of interest, especially for the "freaky" look as people get smarter about the consequences/unmaintainability/unsustainability/drugs.

Local shows are dead amid some gay lurkers / freak crowd.

I could go on all night...

[The True Adonis]

Has absolufuckinly nothing to do with any "downturn".

The general lack of interest, especially for the "freaky" look as people get smarter about the consequences/unmaintainability/unsustainability/drugs.

Local shows are dead amid some gay lurkers / freak crowd.

I could go on all night...

Indeed.  The bleak and unvarnished outlook that Alex here describes is a true and painted colorization of what the fitness "industry" has become.  Anyone can shit in a box and call it art, but will people actually continue to pay to see it?

[240 is Back]

Has absolufuckinly nothing to do with any "downturn".

The general lack of interest, especially for the "freaky" look as people get smarter about the consequences/unmaintainability/unsustainability/drugs.

Local shows are dead amid some gay lurkers / freak crowd.

I could go on all night...

Oh, I agree the extreme nature of the sport has killed it.  Forums overtaking magazines mean kids at 16 know how to design steroid stacks, when 15 years ago, we'd read FLEX and believe half the guys were natural.

I think it's due to the fact that promoters let idiots come out, pull their trunks up the cracks, and bump and grind.  It's not about art, muscle, power, etc, like Arnold and Franco would promote.  You have kai Greene gyrating hips while making fvck faces.  Imagine if Lou would have tried that against Arnold in 1975?

There will always be straight and gay fans in every sport.  Letting the homosexual antics take the main stage was a huge mistake.

[Alex23]

Oh, I agree the extreme nature of the sport has killed it.  Forums overtaking magazines mean kids at 16 know how to design steroid stacks, when 15 years ago, we'd read FLEX and believe half the guys were natural.

I think it's due to the fact that promoters let idiots come out, pull their trunks up the cracks, and bump and grind.  It's not about art, muscle, power, etc, like Arnold and Franco would promote.  You have kai Greene gyrating hips while making fvck faces.  Imagine if Lou would have tried that against Arnold in 1975?

There will always be straight and gay fans in every sport.  Letting the homosexual antics take the main stage was a huge mistake.

Spot on. You just made me proud. 

[The Coach]

There is no decline in the FITNESS industry, just bodybuilding.

[Alex23]

There is no decline in the FITNESS industry, just bodybuilding.

To when the fitness male models onstage?

http://www.campusmen.com/male-modeling/how-to-become-male-model.html

[Camel Jockey]

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Dude... You are the best HAHAHAHA 

[nycbull]

Oh, I agree the extreme nature of the sport has killed it.  Forums overtaking magazines mean kids at 16 know how to design steroid stacks, when 15 years ago, we'd read FLEX and believe half the guys were natural.

I think it's due to the fact that promoters let idiots come out, pull their trunks up the cracks, and bump and grind.  It's not about art, muscle, power, etc, like Arnold and Franco would promote.  You have kai Greene gyrating hips while making fvck faces.  Imagine if Lou would have tried that against Arnold in 1975?

There will always be straight and gay fans in every sport.  Letting the homosexual antics take the main stage was a huge mistake.

dont agree that they are 'homosexual antics', they are straight guys acting tasteless, nothing new there...women pay to see straight stripers do that all the time, not sure if its a gay thing? 

Plus if you ask me, it was the great gay photographers of the 50's,60's, and 70's  that influenced the classical Art style, and wholesome masculine cullture of bodybuilding, from the pictures, to the magazines,to the posing routines, and on out to the culture itself flexing on the beach.

Those masters include; Bruce Bellos, Mel Roberts, Pat Milo, Robert Mizer, Warner (i think) and of course Rip Colt and many more. 

In the late 80s things began to stray from the classical forms (the start of homophobia and distancing themselves from gay photography), but thankfully Herb Ritts in the early 90's influenced bb magazine photography with his hyper masculine dirty gritty black and white style, that was great but unfortunately short lived.

I would say todays style is left over garrish late 80s style combined with extreme vulgar culture of todays fake world,  but in any case the show productions, lighting, posing style and overall look of bodybuilding is horribly straight, its as tasteless as hell I dont think any gay guys are involved in creating that shit. sorry

  But hope is on its way and its in the photographer Bill Comstock, who is straight I believe. He is the best raw talent out there, he has the best eye out there for the male form, getting the masculinity not just the anatomy and catches the athletes spirit and strenght in each shot.....but I think he holds back,,,prob afraid of being seen  gay...to bad....He is the One to bring ART back to the sport of BB. 

[Swedish Viking]

There is no decline in the FITNESS industry, just bodybuilding.

  Very true.  Bodybuilding is gonna stick around for a while but it's not going to be any less on the fringes than it ever as been.  Fitness and health ARE the industry.

[nycbull]

Oh, I agree the extreme nature of the sport has killed it.  Forums overtaking magazines mean kids at 16 know how to design steroid stacks, when 15 years ago, we'd read FLEX and believe half the guys were natural.

I think it's due to the fact that promoters let idiots come out, pull their trunks up the cracks, and bump and grind.  It's not about art, muscle, power, etc, like Arnold and Franco would promote.  You have kai Greene gyrating hips while making fvck faces.  Imagine if Lou would have tried that against Arnold in 1975?

There will always be straight and gay fans in every sport.  Letting the homosexual antics take the main stage was a huge mistake.

have to say again Kai is not gay nor many of the competitors that are doing it so how is it gay again? And I can tell you all for my people that
the men in the audience are there to see straight hyper-masculine men, I will bet my life that there is not one gay man at a show that would enjoy watching any straigth guy acting foolish, googly, dancy, artsy or wiggly...its not a turn on....trust me.

Lastly about the Lurkers themselves:

'Arnold Schwarzenegger, is reported to have accepted quite openly that the developed male body may be attractive to
homosexuals, and to think this perfectly reasonable.

"When a homosexual looks at a bodybuilder, I dont have anything against that, I would
probably stare the same way if Rachel Welch or Brigitte Bardot walked by...The same is true with the homosexual - he's looking at the bodybuilder and picturing what he would do with him" --Arnold

-- Pumping Iron The Art and Sport of Bodybuilding.'

[timfogarty]

have to say again Kai is not gay nor many of the competitors that are doing it so how is it gay again?

ok, it's not gay.  it's just effeminate.  which is a turn-off to many gays.

note to Kai:  fur is probably not the right outfit when gogo dancing at a leather bar

[gordiano]

Oh, I agree the extreme nature of the sport has killed it.  Forums overtaking magazines mean kids at 16 know how to design steroid stacks, when 15 years ago, we'd read FLEX and believe half the guys were natural.

I think it's due to the fact that promoters let idiots come out, pull their trunks up the cracks, and bump and grind.  It's not about art, muscle, power, etc, like Arnold and Franco would promote.  You have kai Greene gyrating hips while making fvck faces.  Imagine if Lou would have tried that against Arnold in 1975?

There will always be straight and gay fans in every sport.  Letting the homosexual antics take the main stage was a huge mistake.

Great post.

Like I said before, at one point comp. bbing may have been an art form. Guys like Arnold and Ed Corney were gracious posers. Their physiques were something to aspire to. These guys today are a fucking joke.....Kai Greene humping the fucking floor is not cool. Anybody trying to claim comp. bbing is a "sport" is hurt by that shit. Then you have the huge ugly guts, the fucking synthol and just horrendous physiques, no personality or intelligence....then of course, the shadiness of it all (Felons, drug dealers, g4p, etc.).

[webcake]

Kai is an embarassment to this industry. His routines are revolting, he wears his trunks so far up his ass crack he might as well just buy a proper thong. Someone in a position of power needs to make some regulations and rules that the bb'ers need to start following. Pretty much whatever Kai does, make it a rule that they can't do it.

Bb'ing needs more guys like Dennis Wolf. Classic looking physique (still huge but hes got a tiny waist and just had a good look to him). He's one of the best posers out there. He hits poses properly and his routines are artistic. I'd be happy to show someone a Dennis Wolf posing routine. I would be far too embarassed to show anyone a Kai Greene posing routine...

[gordiano]

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HAHAHA! The "Cocksmith".

[240 is Back]

dont agree that they are 'homosexual antics', they are straight guys acting tasteless, nothing new there...women pay to see straight stripers do that all the time, not sure if its a gay thing? 
Plus if you ask me, it was the great gay photographers of the 50's,60's, and 70's  that influenced the classical Art style, and wholesome masculine cullture of bodybuilding, from the pictures, to the magazines,to the posing routines, and on out to the culture itself flexing on the beach.
Those masters include; Bruce Bellos, Mel Roberts, Pat Milo, Robert Mizer, Warner (i think) and of course Rip Colt and many more. 

In the late 80s things began to stray from the classical forms (the start of homophobia and distancing themselves from gay photography), but thankfully Herb Ritts in the early 90's influenced bb magazine photography with his hyper masculine dirty gritty black and white style, that was great but unfortunately short lived.

I would say todays style is left over garrish late 80s style combined with extreme vulgar culture of todays fake world,  but in any case the show productions, lighting, posing style and overall look of bodybuilding is horribly straight, its as tasteless as hell I dont think any gay guys are involved in creating that shit. sorry

  But hope is on its way and its in the photographer Bill Comstock, who is straight I believe. He is the best raw talent out there, he has the best eye out there for the male form, getting the masculinity not just the anatomy and catches the athletes spirit and strenght in each shot.....but I think he holds back,,,prob afraid of being seen  gay...to bad....He is the One to bring ART back to the sport of BB. 

Let's not place blame, lets not point fingers.  Let's create a clause in the IFBB contract:

If a guy has sex with fruit, bumps and grinds onstage, or does a jackoff video, or any other activity deemed sexually inappropriate for a professional sporting organization, he should be banned from bodybuilding competition for 2 years.

It'll dry up very quickly.

[rk272727]

jay cutler  will win again

[Rudee]

"affect you"

[timfogarty]

Let's not place blame, lets not point fingers.  Let's create a clause in the IFBB contract:

If a guy has sex with fruit, bumps and grinds onstage, or does a jackoff video, or any other activity deemed sexually inappropriate for a professional sporting organization, he should be banned from bodybuilding competition for 2 years.

let's make it gender neutral.  Female athletes doing porn is just as damaging to the image of the sport.

but there should also be a 2 year ban (after time served) for anyone convicted of a felony.  anyone under indictment should probably be suspended.