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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #75 on: August 27, 2008, 02:44:56 PM »
Yeah I can see that but you do realize that other countries have these too right? infact Canada has more guns per capita than the the USA

I dont really believe that...i know VERY few people with guns

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #76 on: August 27, 2008, 02:53:05 PM »
People who say that haven't lived here and then somewhere else. American may not have public health and educational systems like that of Scandanavian countries, but it's still a better place to live in. I will explain why.

First, the standard of living, and I'm talking creature comforts, are far better in America than any other place. Goods are cheaper, and people are taxed less than in Europe or Japan. People can make as low as $500 a week and still live okay if they're smart with their money. You can't do that in Europe without relying on some sort of government welfare program.

Second, the healthcare system isn't that bad. No one suddenly dies because they couldn't get care. There are low cost medicaid programs that people can qualify for is they don't earn too much, or they can simply get low cost insurance.

Europe maybe be more of an ideal place, but it's far from that in reality. Most immigrants that go to European nations cannot even integrate, or get jobs, so they becomes welfare junkies. If the European Union is such a model example, then surely people would be able to assimilate? America is the world's ultimate merit based country and regardless of what idiot know it all kids say, a person can get a great return for what they put into the great machine that is America.

I've been to England and it was a very overpriced(even by NYC standards) place that allowed few creature comforts. My hotel room was fine, but upon visiting some friends I saw what kind of shitty and cramped places they lived in and these people earned relatively well mind you.

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #77 on: August 27, 2008, 02:58:24 PM »
Which countries have you lived in?

I'd say America is one of the best countries in the world. However, if America was a stock, I'd expect the value to collapse soon.

UNBIASED?

LOL.

you need to google such things as the global health survey, standard of living survey, crime statistics and employment etc , compile them, then post.

you're in a for a HUGE shock to see how low the USA ranks when compared to many other countries which, by FACTUAL studies, shows that the US is FAR from the best country in the world to live.

In social and health alone it ranks 39. Behind even some 3rd world coutries. But dont worry, it ranks highly in crime per capita...

this is what is meant by Americans being insular and unaware of what happens elsewhere. You really do think you got it good..when you dont.

and yes, ive spent quite a bit of time in the US and everytime cant wait to get out of there.


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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #78 on: August 27, 2008, 03:00:37 PM »
Bobs its been so long since I've seen you where have you been hiding  ::)

lol, brutal not posting in my Nasser threads for months and then coming out of your hole to post in a political one.  We were just discussing what work you will be assigned next week :)

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #79 on: August 27, 2008, 03:00:46 PM »
I love when a group of college sophomores majoring in politics claim they "just know everything about why america is so 'screwed up" ::), and announce why we SHOULDNT do this or SHOULDNT do that, blind fools. I would love a typical american born person to try living in the countries they claim we should "stay out of".  ;) America is the BEST COUNTRY ON EARTH. This is a NON BIASED POINT OF VIEW. Unless you are in jail or dead, any person can do ANYTHING in this country they desire. Its just the facts. I can go to waffle house. I can instantly purchase 3 bibles and a 9mm in this country. Freedom is what everyone values. Anyone who disagrees has never had a taste.

Take a look at Saddams Crimes Against Humanity videos if you particularly feel we should not have went to iraq. 400,000 people killed. A handful of Americans. Im not "trading" on my fellow civilians.Im just talking about human beings in general. But, if what saddam did was happening in Kentucky right now, 800,000 people killed today. IM PRETTY SURE WE WOULD be concerned. But, since its "way over there in Iraq" we dont care about people. Thats their problem.

And im the farthest thing from a dumb hick who is the "America: love it or leave it" type.  ::)

I agree with you.

I won't evenb read the responses here.

My GF's neice needed a recommendation from me for college.

I wrote something about her "Being the best America has to offer..."

She wanted me to take "America" out, bc it was not "Politically correct"

Fucking college students.

I may not do it for her now.

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #80 on: August 27, 2008, 03:02:34 PM »
UNBIASED?

LOL.

you need to google such things as the global health survey, standard of living survey, crime statistics and employment etc , compile them, then post.

you're in a for a HUGE shock to see how low the USA ranks when compared to many other countries which, by FACTUAL studies, shows that the US is FAR from the best country in the world to live.

In social and health alone it ranks 39. Behind even some 3rd world coutries. But dont worry, it ranks highly in crime per capita...

this is what is meant by Americans being insular and unaware of what happens elsewhere. You really do think you got it good..when you dont.

and yes, ive spent quite a bit of time in the US and everytime cant wait to get out of there.

I am wealthy enough from the wonderful US system to pay for a first class ticket to fly your sorry ass out of here post-haste, pussy.

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #81 on: August 27, 2008, 03:02:43 PM »

lol ok you win USA USA USA USA !

Titusisback is a fellow Canuck :)  He was being sarcastic.

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2008, 03:03:33 PM »
I dont really believe that...i know VERY few people with guns

You obvoiusly don't know the people ag2 grew up with ;)

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2008, 03:04:21 PM »
Foreigners also paint the American people with the same brush as Bush's administration. This paints Americans as "dumb" and "uncultured", but the honest truth is that Americans are probably far better informed than Europeans. Having dealt with Euro tourists, I can tell you that most of them while formal lack respect for others. In the states most people don't give a fuck if you just do your thing, but it seems to be the opposite with Europeans. Europeans love playing towards good ideals, but fail in acting them out.

This is all subjective observation of course.

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In social and health alone it ranks 39. Behind even some 3rd world coutries. But dont worry, it ranks highly in crime per capita...

this is what is meant by Americans being insular and unaware of what happens elsewhere. You really do think you got it good..when you dont.

and yes, ive spent quite a bit of time in the US and everytime cant wait to get out of there.

Stats do not tell the story, little man. America is a very large and diverse place, so those numbers go up and down with demopgrahic and area.

Funny how you say you couldn't wait to get out. So many people I've met would say the exact opposite and they have lived in both the European Union and the states. Just go to the westside of Manhattan and you'll find tons of brit transplants who moved to the states because it's a place where a dream can become reality granted you work hard. A baller in Europe lives as well as some upper middleclass American. Should tell you a lot right there.

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2008, 03:05:02 PM »
I am wealthy enough from the wonderful US system to pay for a first class ticket to fly your sorry ass out of here post-haste, pussy.

You are not addressing the factual studies which do not support the claim that America is the best country in the world. How do you respond to these studies?
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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #85 on: August 27, 2008, 03:07:02 PM »
Deicide your avatar is about to give me a seizure....    :(

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #86 on: August 27, 2008, 03:08:13 PM »
Deicide your avatar is about to give me a seizure....    :(

Yes, well I have grown quite fond of it. Is it the disturbing images or rather the quick flashing or both?  :)
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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #87 on: August 27, 2008, 03:12:58 PM »
You are not addressing the factual studies which do not support the claim that America is the best country in the world. How do you respond to these studies?

For me, its the best.

If any person HERE

does what I have done and do

They will be just like me

Plain fact

Can't be done ANYWHERE else

on the big blue marble

Your studies

Mean nothing to me

May they be biased?

Suer

There archives of billions of studies

gathering dust

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #88 on: August 27, 2008, 03:23:03 PM »
For me, its the best.
If any person HERE

does what I have done and do

They will be just like me

Plain fact

Can't be done ANYWHERE else

on the big blue marble

Your studies

Mean nothing to me

May they be biased?

Suer

There archives of billions of studies

gathering dust

This is my point. My contention is that there is no 'best place' to live and it is always relative to the individual.
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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #89 on: August 27, 2008, 03:24:44 PM »
This is my point. My contention is that there is no 'best place' to live and it is always relative to the individual.

Naturally, you are correct.

People who whine her about USA are PROJECTING.

THEY actually do the sucking, not America.

'Nuff said.

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #90 on: August 27, 2008, 03:44:24 PM »
Naturally, you are correct.

People who whine her about USA are PROJECTING.

THEY actually do the sucking, not America.

'Nuff said.

moosejay you are a fucking idiot...have been since day 1 posting here at GB. You could fly me out first class eh?

excellent. when im there next april ill hold you to that and see if you're full of shit or not.

ill give you my details and you can provide the finance for the plane seat.

if you're so wealthy and not full of shit- which i predict that you are, then you'll comply and ill gladly post that you did what you said you'd do right here on GB.

until then, you are all talk...just insults.

put your money where your mouth is and youll get respect. so far all i see from your crap posts here is alot of hot wind and abuse to other members.

how about it then?- im calling you out. You arrange for that booking and you'll have made your point..anecdotal and non indicative as it may be.

ill letg you know the details- itll be ex LAX around april next year. It'd be great to fly the 15 hour trip home FC at someone else's expense. But like you say, you're wealthy enough- so it wont be a problem eh?

ill send you my details and we can get on organising it ok?

ill be presenting at the international engineering conference, then off to visit some clients in Chicago, and Pennsylvania, then back to LA. Maybe you can provide FC tickets for the whole trip?

And accommodation?

Can't wait!

lol

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #91 on: August 27, 2008, 03:49:54 PM »
I got this idiot at work that complains about America, Bush anything. Of course he is from Spain...and he thinks he's better than the Spanish people. ha. I always have to remind him ..Hey!! We never wanted you here anyway!!!

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« Reply #92 on: August 27, 2008, 03:56:23 PM »
moosejay you are a fucking idiot...have been since day 1 posting here at GB. You could fly me out first class eh?

excellent. when im there next april ill hold you to that and see if you're full of shit or not.

ill give you my details and you can provide the finance for the plane seat.

if you're so wealthy and not full of shit- which i predict that you are, then you'll comply and ill gladly post that you did what you said you'd do right here on GB.

until then, you are all talk...just insults.

put your money where your mouth is and youll get respect. so far all i see from your crap posts here is alot of hot wind and abuse to other members.

how about it then?- im calling you out. You arrange for that booking and you'll have made your point..anecdotal and non indicative as it may be.

ill letg you know the details- itll be ex LAX around april next year. It'd be great to fly the 15 hour trip home FC at someone else's expense. But like you say, you're wealthy enough- so it wont be a problem eh?

ill send you my details and we can get on organising it ok?

ill be presenting at the international engineering conference, then off to visit some clients in Chicago, and Pennsylvania, then back to LA. Maybe you can provide FC tickets for the whole trip?

And accommodation?

Can't wait!

lol


Where are you from?
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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #93 on: August 27, 2008, 04:00:23 PM »


Damn best training song next to No way out in Rocky 4.  SALUTE BITCHES!!

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #94 on: August 27, 2008, 04:06:01 PM »
you can do all you want in south america

including

BUYING FUCKING STEROIDS LIKE YOU BUY ADVIL

GETTING MINI UZIS WITHOUT I D OR ANYTHING... just show the money :)

so its nice here.... :)

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #95 on: August 27, 2008, 04:45:39 PM »

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #96 on: August 27, 2008, 04:47:27 PM »
lol, brutal not posting in my Nasser threads for months and then coming out of your hole to post in a political one.  We were just discussing what work you will be assigned next week :)

oh shit is there a lot of work for me to do  :o

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« Reply #97 on: August 27, 2008, 04:50:03 PM »
oh shit is there a lot of work for me to do  :o

I guess I better stop drinking and smoking trees everyday and clear my brain up, oh and the reason why Canada rules is because of our relaxed chronic laws  :D

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #98 on: August 27, 2008, 05:01:52 PM »
moosejay you are a fucking idiot...have been since day 1 posting here at GB. You could fly me out first class eh?

excellent. when im there next april ill hold you to that and see if you're full of shit or not.

ill give you my details and you can provide the finance for the plane seat.

if you're so wealthy and not full of shit- which i predict that you are, then you'll comply and ill gladly post that you did what you said you'd do right here on GB.

until then, you are all talk...just insults.

put your money where your mouth is and youll get respect. so far all i see from your crap posts here is alot of hot wind and abuse to other members.

how about it then?- im calling you out. You arrange for that booking and you'll have made your point..anecdotal and non indicative as it may be.

ill letg you know the details- itll be ex LAX around april next year. It'd be great to fly the 15 hour trip home FC at someone else's expense. But like you say, you're wealthy enough- so it wont be a problem eh?

ill send you my details and we can get on organising it ok?

ill be presenting at the international engineering conference, then off to visit some clients in Chicago, and Pennsylvania, then back to LA. Maybe you can provide FC tickets for the whole trip?

And accommodation?

Can't wait!

lol


Uh, yeah, meltdown

Anyone here will tell you I am the real deal.

'nuff said.

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Re: Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?
« Reply #99 on: August 27, 2008, 05:03:06 PM »