Has anyone ever told you "america sucks"?

[Moosejay]

Just bring your own gun to fight the polar bears. I got a guest room in my igloo, you're welcome to use it

You are kind.

I like the cold, actually

[Moosejay]

we have a government right now that is simply too big and uses money like a junkie uses heroin, the more they get the more they use, the war expenditure and the entitlement spending is way out of control, we have a supposedly "conservative" administration that has spent money more than any administration in this country's history with no end in sight.

You are right about the spending

[Deicide]

I often wonder whether people are getting farther removed/more ignorant as well. Complacent may be a better word. We enjoy so many creature comforts in the West, sometimes it is hard to understand/see that 1/2 the world lives on mere dollars a day. As well, sometimes I think that America-as-Empire is entering it's last phase and the collapse is imminent as empires runs their course. On the plus side, I travel a good deal and my talks with Americans, person-to-person, almost always reaffirm that they are good, intelligent  people who don't wear blinkers. I have yet to meet a person who will admit to voting for GWB, so there may be hope! 

Usually Americans abroad are the coolest kind...in my experience.

[ag2]

yes

But my point was the amount of money that is here

Just in those three alone

yeah I agree it's a lot but that doesn't help the average joe, I agree that the citezens are rich but they aren't going to hand over money to help the gov't out, even a shithole 3rd world country has rich people in it but that does not help the economy as a whole unless the billionaires help out and buy the debt from China but then you give those guys all the power.

My arguement is not about how rich the small minority are it's about the wasteful spending of the gov't that has hurt the economy, what good is having a ton of money if you don't use it wisely, between China and the Saudis the American economy owes them a ton of cash.

[dr.chimps]

Usually Americans abroad are the coolest kind...in my experience.

Ha! The last American I ran into, in a Toronto pub, was an architect of E. Indian descent from New York (Buffalo), who was there to meet his GF and for a financial thingy. We got on like a house on fire. Politics was discussed and was of such a tenor that 'Coach' would have seen 'blue.' 

[Deicide]

Ha! The last American I ran into, in a Toronto pub, was an architect of E. Indian descent from New York (Buffalo), who was there to meet his GF and for a financial thingy. We got on like a house on fire. Politics was discussed and was of such a tenor that 'Coach' would have seen 'blue.' 

Coach...he is just so...meh.

If I had to live in North America, other than my home town of NYC, I should like to live in Montreal. Do you have an opinion concerning Montreal?

[gettingbetter]

Its funny... everyone that doesnt "have it great" in america always suffers.... And how u foreigners just "happen to know" so much why america sucks so bad but have never step foot on it. All u get is the media telling u this, or telling u that. Live here for one month. Have 15,000 dollars for whatever, no bills, just pure freedom and tell me if u dont find it better living standards u retard.

I've done that: 6 months in the US with money went from Washington State to California then across to Florida, New York and back home. I had 30 000$ Had a great time in Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon, period.

Did the same in Greece last year. Had 20 000 euros.

Let me just tell you one thing: I had a WAY better time in Greece. Felt secure, people were nicer, less expensive, you can walk in the middle of Athens at night, completly drunk without a problem. In the U.S., well let's just say that Watts ain't a friendly neighborhood. The girls are WAY dirtier in Europe too and way more attractive anyways! Most of them have no guilt about sex and most take it in the ass...

Next Year I'm going to Thaîland so I'll be able to compare but as of now: Europe is WAY nicer than the U.S.

[Deicide]

I've done that: 6 months in the US with money went from Washington State to California then across to Florida, New York and back home. I had 30 000$ Had a great time in Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon, period.

Did the same in Greece last year. Had 20 000 euros.

Let me just tell you one thing: I had a WAY better time in Greece. Felt secure, people were nicer, less expensive, you can walk in the middle of Athens at night, completly drunk without a problem. In the U.S., well let's just say that Watts ain't a friendly neighborhood. The girls are WAY dirtier in Europe too and way more attractive anyways! Most of them have no guilt about sex and most take it in the ass...

Next Year I'm going to Thaîland so I'll be able to compare but as of now: Europe is WAY nicer than the U.S.

The Greeks hate the Americans; they will never forgive the Americans for the Colonels and the Junta.

[gettingbetter]

The Greeks hate the Americans; they will never forgive the Americans for the Colonels and the Junta.

indeed...

[Deicide]

indeed...

What is your nationality?

[GreatFinn]

I love when a group of college sophomores majoring in politics claim they "just know everything about why america is so 'screwed up" , and announce why we SHOULDNT do this or SHOULDNT do that, blind fools. I would love a typical american born person to try living in the countries they claim we should "stay out of".  America is the BEST COUNTRY ON EARTH. This is a NON BIASED POINT OF VIEW. Unless you are in jail or dead, any person can do ANYTHING in this country they desire. Its just the facts. I can go to waffle house. I can instantly purchase 3 bibles and a 9mm in this country. Freedom is what everyone values. Anyone who disagrees has never had a taste.

Take a look at Saddams Crimes Against Humanity videos if you particularly feel we should not have went to iraq. 400,000 people killed. A handful of Americans. Im not "trading" on my fellow civilians.Im just talking about human beings in general. But, if what saddam did was happening in Kentucky right now, 800,000 people killed today. IM PRETTY SURE WE WOULD be concerned. But, since its "way over there in Iraq" we dont care about people. Thats their problem.

And im the farthest thing from a dumb hick who is the "America: love it or leave it" type. 

I love when bunch of american schoolboys try to brag how fu*king great place USA is, because their arguments are so childish. Still, 90% of serial killers are from USA, 97 % of shcool shootings has happen in USA, 60% gun related deaths of civilian population has happen in USA, your health care is poor, your infant mortality rate is higher than it is in many of the developing countries, your life expectancy is dropping while it is rising in other developed countries, your industries is mostly owned by foreign owners. According to your own newspapers, there is 40 % of americans with some kind of mental disturbance. Your drug problems are overwhelming, you have as much HIV positive people than they have in africa.

Your country has been great, but that is history. You are going downhill with increasing speed, and there is no way to stop it. You live in illusion of greatness, which is uphold by your media, so average citizens doesn't have a clue what is happening.  You live in the  police state, where all  policy-making has been done by plutocracy, and where you cannot  participate it even as a voter, because your silly methods of voting. Your country is one of the few which hasn't sign Kyoto protocol, but your level of pollution is unbearable. Your country has been in war just about any given time of history with some far away country, and because of that, your military expenses are highest of the world.  You dope heads put billions of dollars just to get your own boys killed in Iran or Afganistan, and for what? Just to keep your military budget as a greatest item of expenditure in your economy. Your quality of education has been sliding down, while your underemployment rate has been rising...You are the most ignorant people in any industrialized country, and so fu*cking proud for it, that it makes any one with right mind puke his guts out.

[boonstack]

I love when bunch of american schoolboys try to brag how fu*king great place USA is, because their arguments are so childish. Still, 90% of serial killers are from USA, 97 % of shcool shootings has happen in USA, 60% gun related deaths of civilian population has happen in USA, your health care is poor, your infant mortality rate is higher than it is in many of the developing countries, your life expectancy is dropping while it is rising in other developed countries, your industries is mostly owned by foreign owners. According to your own newspapers, there is 40 % of americans with some kind of mental disturbance. Your drug problems are overwhelming, you have as much HIV positive people than they have in africa.

Your country has been great, but that is history. You are going downhill with increasing speed, and there is no way to stop it. You live in illusion of greatness, which is uphold by your media, so average citizens doesn't have a clue what is happening.  You live in the  police state, where all  policy-making has been done by plutocracy, and where you cannot  participate it even as a voter, because your silly methods of voting. Your country is one of the few which hasn't sign Kyoto protocol, but your level of pollution is unbearable. Your country has been in war just about any given time of history with some far away country, and because of that, your military expenses are highest of the world.  You dope heads put billions of dollars just to get your own boys killed in Iran or Afganistan, and for what? Just to keep your military budget as a greatest item of expenditure in your economy. Your quality of education has been sliding down, while your underemployment rate has been rising...You are the most ignorant people in any industrialized country, and so fu*cking proud for it, that it makes any one with right mind puke his guts out.wh

Your totally mising the point. All of these "statistics" u talk about are what u "hear" on "paper"... I dont know ONE person that falls under ANY of the criteria u listed. If you LIVE here, u "get" what we mean as far as having a great life. If you are offering an outside perspective about how its just "sooo bad", then u just dont get it..

[ibfasport]

The Greeks hate the Americans; they will never forgive the Americans for the Colonels and the Junta.

this is false, greeks hate muslim

[dr.chimps]

Coach...he is just so...meh.

If I had to live in North America, other than my home town of NYC, I should like to live in Montreal. Do you have an opinion concerning Montreal?

It is absolutely my favourite Canadian city! It is wonderfully laid out in a nice kind of Parisian mix of grid-and  -old-city-mess. Now, you can take the metro, which is again more European than Toronto's, or you can walk, which I prefer. What I really like is that there are trees everywhere (Jane Jacobs? probably not!) and things are walkable. Also, the Old City is nonpareil - the last time I was there there was a Tintin retaurant! And on Rue St. Denis a Tintin store...but, I digress. There is a cosmopolitaness that is so lacking in Toronto. The buildings are unique: 'a vendre; a louer.' There is character; there is life! Saul bellow once lived there, Mordechai Richler certainly did. I always visit as much as I can. pm Colossus or Stavios, etc. for the real inside stuff. They can give you the ground-level reality.     

[El_Pajero]

this is false, greeks hate muslim

yes all greeks hate muslims, you must be very intelligent.  

[Deicide]

this is false, greeks hate muslim

Look up the Greek Colonels/Junta...I know what I am talking about.

[Deicide]

It is absolutely my favourite Canadian city! It is wonderfully laid out in a nice kind of Parisian mix of grid-and  -old-city-mess. Now, you can take the metro, which is again more European than Toronto's, or you can walk, which I prefer. What I really like is that there are trees everywhere (Jane Jacobs? probably not!) and things are walkable. Also, the Old City is nonpareil - the last time I was there there was a Tintin retaurant! And on Rue St. Denis a Tintin store...but, I digress. There is a cosmopolitaness that is so lacking in Toronto. The buildings are unique: 'a vendre; a louer.' There is character; there is life! Saul bellow once lived there, Mordechai Richler certainly did. I always visit as much as I can. pm Colossus or Stavios, etc. for the real inside stuff. They can give you the ground-level reality.     

Colossus is a fundamentalist nutcase. No need to pm him.

I agree with your observations, have been there many times and wouldn't mind living there.

Why not move there?

[ibfasport]

yes all greeks hate muslims, you must be very intelligent.  

you cannot understand west against the east

[Sharma]

America is a very diseased and sick society. I always laugh that they try to act like a superior nation to older and wiser nations when in their own backyard there is terrible poverty and violence.  You invade sovereign nations and kill women and children yet don't tackle the war in your own garden.


A sick society that will eventually implode. Western Democracy has been a disastrous experiment that only benefit very few elite. Things will change one day.

[Deicide]

America is a very diseased and sick society. I always laugh that they try to act like a superior nation to older and wiser nations when in their own backyard there is terrible poverty and violence.  You invade sovereign nations and kill women and children yet don't tackle the war in your own garden.


A sick society that will eventually implode. Western Democracy has been a disastrous experiment that only benefit very few elite. Things will change one day.

Change for what? Islam? Over my dead body...

[Moosejay]

Your totally mising the point. All of these "statistics" u talk about are what u "hear" on "paper"... I dont know ONE person that falls under ANY of the criteria u listed. If you LIVE here, u "get" what we mean as far as having a great life. If you are offering an outside perspective about how its just "sooo bad", then u just dont get it..

Boon, just look at the fatso in his avatar, that should tell ya volumes

[Moosejay]

Change for what? Islam? Over my dead body...

Islam is already dead, deicide.

[tommywishbone]

America is cool. America's government & leaders suck.

[dr.chimps]

Colossus is a fundamentalist nutcase. No need to pm him.

I agree with your observations, have been there many times and wouldn't mind living there.

Why not move there?

I guess because where I live is sort of my natal place. I'm a small town mouse at heart. 

//i gave away my cell phone a few years ago, too

[Moosejay]

America is cool. America's government & leaders suck.

Correct