How to use esiclene?

[Meso_z]

Does anyone has any experience on its use? I'm pretty curious.

[Big_Tymer]

theres a thread on ProM that explains how to use it.  But if you do you lose all respect from me 

[OTHstrong]

There was only one era in bodybuilding where it was beneficial and that was mid 90's because it wasn't abused by many and not well knowned, now its way to noticable and people who are in the know will lose respect for you, but its your choice, don't know how you would use though

[davinci]

im confused. escilene is aprodastril or whatever. isnt that the same active ingredient in caverject? the injectable pde5 inhibitor that they give you to get erections when viagra and cialis do not work

[OTHstrong]

im confused. escilene is aprodastril or whatever. isnt that the same active ingredient in caverject? the injectable pde5 inhibitor that they give you to get erections when viagra and cialis do not work

I don't know, but what this guys referring to is a variation of synthol

[davinci]

i see. i saw some of this esciline on a website one time and it said asprodatil mixed with novacaine. Sorry just was curious. maybe its a mixture of that ed drug and novacaine

[Emmortal]

I don't know, but what this guys referring to is a variation of synthol

I was under the impression esciline  caused more of a temporary inflammation of muscle and wasn't like synthol really where the oil stayed in your body for long periods of time.  I could be wrong though.

[local hero]

ive never used esciline,, used noltol a few times tho... great stuff to bring biceps/triceps and delts out... we found a few shots on the morning each bodypart on the morning,, then a shot in each just before the show did the trick

[vinnyvee]

I don't know

Then why are you answering?
 

[RDW]

Esiclene and synthol are very different.  Also, Esiclene (Formebolone) is not the same as Caverject (alprostadil) (prostaglandin) even though it seems to be sold as such on the black market.  Esiclene is no longer available and has not been available or manufactured for about 20 years.  What is sold as Esiclene (simply capitalizing on the name) is Caverject which produces a similar effect, although through a different mechanism.  It works by increasing blood flow to the tissue, essentially causing swelling (Which is why it works as a form of ED treatment when injected into the penis).  In my experience this lasts only a few hours at best.  There is no permenant damage or distortion from Caverject unless it is done daily in large doses, but even then it would be only tissue scaring from frequent injections.  It can hurt like hell though at times, which is why the lidocaine (which actually hurts initially more than it helps) is there.  Caverject is soluble in bacteriostatic water and comes in a powder like hcg.  I have used between 20-60mcg per site for mediocre results.  Not worth it in my opinion. 

Snythol, on the other hand, is dependant upon long term buildup of triglyceride oils, which causes definate distortion and is truely fake tissue.  Synthol will make you look like shit in the long run.  Caverject will just make you poor for a day of 0.5" larger biceps.

[OTHstrong]

Then why are you answering?
 

I was referring to what he was talking about and I answered because he was mistaken thinking it was something else, I know what esiclene is, most bodybuilders do and I didn't say it was exactly synthol I said variation meaning it has the same properties except for the fact that esiclene is usually in and out and synthol your stuck with for some time. I'm sick of people trying to word things perfect and trying to be all technical, the bottom line is results on your body not pretending to know it all, why are you answering, shut up

[Emmortal]

Thanks for clearing that up RDW, I thought that's what it did and wasn't like Synthol at all.

[OTHstrong]

Thanks for clearing that up RDW, I thought that's what it did and wasn't like Synthol at all.

Believe me maybe what it is made up is not like synthol but to me its the same shittt, I see guys a local show on this shitt and their arms still look like synthol arms, only a few got away with it like Kevin and Flex, nowadays it isn't used as much.

[Emmortal]

Believe me maybe what it is made up is not like synthol but to me its the same shittt, I see guys a local show on this shitt and their arms still look like synthol arms, only a few got away with it like Kevin and Flex, nowadays it isn't used as much.

Yea, the end result is similar, but it doesn't last as long and works through a totally different pathway.  Guys who use it, like you say, can easily be picked out because most abuse it instead of using it sparingly.

[OTHstrong]

Yea, the end result is similar, but it doesn't last as long and works through a totally different pathway.  Guys who use it, like you say, can easily be picked out because most abuse it instead of using it sparingly.

I agree with this

[RDW]

I agree with this

I think the differences are pretty noticable if you know what to look for, they both make you look shitty imo.  Synthol gives a more deformed protrusion in the long run and the alprostadil is a more rounded inflamed look (because that is exactly what it is, essentially your body reacts the same way as it does with a localized infection).  With alprostadil the skin is almost always red around the inflamation, however, this is difficult to see with all the tanning or otherwise naturally dark skin.

[vinnyvee]

I was referring to what he was talking about and I answered because he was mistaken thinking it was something else, I know what esiclene is, most bodybuilders do and I didn't say it was exactly synthol I said variation meaning it has the same properties except for the fact that esiclene is usually in and out and synthol your stuck with for some time. I'm sick of people trying to word things perfect and trying to be all technical, the bottom line is results on your body not pretending to know it all, why are you answering, shut up

Wow,,cheer up grumpy. Why didnt you just state then when you were originaly responding as opposed to the more popular meathead statement you made?
And what's wrong with a little tech mumbo jumbo talk from time to time?
God fckn forbid these kids might actually have to KNOW why what chem does what to their body.

But alas your the blue star competitor, not me. Go get em......
 

[OTHstrong]

Wow,,cheer up grumpy. Why didnt you just state then when you were originaly responding as opposed to the more popular meathead statement you made?
And what's wrong with a little tech mumbo jumbo talk from time to time?
God fckn forbid these kids might actually have to KNOW why what chem does what to their body.

But alas your the blue star competitor, not me. Go get em......
 

Sorry bro, I realize you have a good sense of humour, 3 weeks in my diet, don't mind me, I'm not all there.

[Van_Bilderass]

Believe me maybe what it is made up is not like synthol but to me its the same shittt, I see guys a local show on this shitt and their arms still look like synthol arms, only a few got away with it like Kevin and Flex, nowadays it isn't used as much.

Esiclene use didn't 'look like' Synthol at all. Esiclene made the muscle look hard while Synthol has the opposite effect. Esiclene was just an injectable steroid which caused temporary inflammation.

[OTHstrong]

Esiclene use didn't 'look like' Synthol at all. Esiclene made the muscle look hard while Synthol has the opposite effect. Esiclene was just an injectable steroid which caused temporary inflammation.

Yes it did look like synthol, maybe not to that extreme but you could tell who had it Mike materazzo, Nasser in early days before he switched to synthol, Kevin and Flex, Paul Dillet. If you can't tell fine, but a judge can and to take it today would result in people crying SYNTHOL, any temporary inflamation, including from sight injections, looks like shitt, Period. One guy on the other thread said he stops oil injections 2 weeks out because he doesn't want his muscle to look awkard, I say thats smart on his behalf.

[Van_Bilderass]

Yes it did look like synthol, maybe not to that extreme but you could tell who had it Mike materazzo, Nasser in early days before he switched to synthol, Kevin and Flex, Paul Dillet. If you can't tell fine, but a judge can and to take it today would result in people crying SYNTHOL, any temporary inflamation, including from sight injections, looks like shitt, Period. One guy on the other thread said he stops oil injections 2 weeks out because he doesn't want his muscle to look awkard, I say thats smart on his behalf.

I'm pretty sure it was a water based product - more like a Winstrol shot than oil based steroids or Synthol. And many bodybuilders still do Winstrol shots in various bodyparts the day before a show, including pros. If it was exactly like shooting oil it wouldn't have been so sought after by the pros.

There's some pics of Aaron Baker where I'm pretty sure he's shot Esiclene in his calves. Very pointy belly.

[local hero]

if you use it in moderation and take care in where your putting it it realy does bring out a flat muscle and takes away the need to get a good pump,only the knobs who shoot it all in one spot will stand out,, if you load slin needles with the stuff and tap it all over the muscle belly it does work wonders, i have heard of lads doin this with winstroll too

[phenom]

I love using minstrel the morning of a shoot. 1 ml right into the lateral heads of the triceps and they stick out just like Levrones. Like Van said if your tan enough you don't see the redness and irritation. Esiclene does the same thing except the swelling is more pronounced. For me the important thing about esiclene and winstrol is to learn the timing of it all. If I wait 2 days after my Winstrol shot theres more swelling but my ability to flex the muscle is hampered. So you have to find the right balance to where you have good swelling you can still flex.

[davinci]

Esiclene and synthol are very different.  Also, Esiclene (Formebolone) is not the same as Caverject (alprostadil) (prostaglandin) even though it seems to be sold as such on the black market.  Esiclene is no longer available and has not been available or manufactured for about 20 years.  What is sold as Esiclene (simply capitalizing on the name) is Caverject which produces a similar effect, although through a different mechanism.  It works by increasing blood flow to the tissue, essentially causing swelling (Which is why it works as a form of ED treatment when injected into the penis).  In my experience this lasts only a few hours at best.  There is no permenant damage or distortion from Caverject unless it is done daily in large doses, but even then it would be only tissue scaring from frequent injections.  It can hurt like hell though at times, which is why the lidocaine (which actually hurts initially more than it helps) is there.  Caverject is soluble in bacteriostatic water and comes in a powder like hcg.  I have used between 20-60mcg per site for mediocre results.  Not worth it in my opinion. 

Snythol, on the other hand, is dependant upon long term buildup of triglyceride oils, which causes definate distortion and is truely fake tissue.  Synthol will make you look like shit in the long run.  Caverject will just make you poor for a day of 0.5" larger biceps.

thats what i thought, i have seen couples sites selling escilen and the main ingredient listed was alprostadil and nova. so basically this stuff being sold with that ingredient is caverject with nova added to it? i wonder why in the injectable ed treatments you get there is no nova added to it when you inject in penis (same stuff porn stars use. your unit stays hard no matter what, even after your "done")

reason i ask is i have seen this for alot cheaper than actual caverject