WHO IS THE BETTER BODYBUILDER???????

[NarcissisticDeity]

and this your problem.

you 'proved' an opinion with nothing but another opinion.

neither one of which matches up to real life...

 

see for yourself:

Real life you say? pictures is not real life , Peter McGough was there in real life and I think his opinion and the opinion of an IFBB judge Dorian Yates really trumps yours , you've already established that you're ignorant so how can you speak on what is better conditioned especially using a single picture? as usual your threads only accomplish to show your ignorance

conditioning can't be honestly ascertained via pictures & video which is why we must rely on firsthand well respected eyewitness accounts and we already know what they've said now don't we? 

[Hulkster]

yup.

and more eyewitnesses and pros not only feel that ronnie is better than dorian, but feel that at his best ronnie was "unbeatable"

oh yeah, your friend McGough said that didn't he?

hahahaha

owned.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yup.

and more eyewitnesses and pros not only feel that ronnie is better than dorian, but feel that at his best ronnie was "unbeatable"

oh yeah, your friend McGough said that didn't he?

hahahaha

owned.

No see this is where you go to the Neo school , playing with words

here is the McGough quote which addresses the ' unbeatable ' statement which you know he amended however you're trying to be deceptive by glossing over that fact

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

and its true a lot of people feel Ronnie would beat Dorian , however that doesn't make it true just a popular opinion. and Dorian has already covered most of the criteria bases , density & dryness , balance & proportion , posing , and depending on the year size as well so again the criteria clearly favors Dorian

[Hulkster]

the fact that you are relying on a quote so incredibly stupid is mind boggling..

 

269 pound not even in contest shape softish precontest dorian harder than ronnie ever was onstage?

you must be joking:

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

the fact that you are relying on a quote so incredibly stupid is mind boggling..

 

269 pound not even in contest shape softish precontest dorian harder than ronnie ever was onstage?

you must be joking:

 

See you're destined to keep repeating the same mistakes , its not that quote alone and you've been through this before haven't we? pictures are NOT a reliable means of ascertaining such things especially ones where Dorian doesn't have the advantage of professional contest lighting , a deep even tan , posing oil , etc I mean and you keep referring to Yates as ' soft ' which directly contradicts eyewitness accounts , he's anything but soft

and I've said many times that Ronnie may have matched Dorian for that same rock hard and bone dry look however the difference being Dorian could do it at much higher bodyweights than Ronnie which I think is a well established fact , so while Ronnie 2001 may be just as hard and dry , he's not where near as massive & thick at 244 pounds compared to Dorian at 269 pounds here in lies the difference , now couple that with Dorian's clear advantage in balance & proportion and posing and its clear Dorian would beat him.

[NarcissisticDeity]

This is the epitome of conditioned size

[m8]

Dorian sure is deep inside Hulkster's head.

[Hulkster]

Dorian sure is deep inside Hulkster's head.

and deep inside HD's asshole..

[NarcissisticDeity]

and deep inside HD's asshole..

It shows where your mind is  you can't counter a cognizant argument you're reduced to ad hominen attacks but don't worry I don't expect anything less 

balanced , dense , dry , massive and without flaws this is the IFBB judging criteria

[Hulkster]

lol

yeah, harder than ronnie ever was LOL

 

ronnie's not even in contest shape here either..

[Hulkster]

unbalanced , dense , dry , detail-less, massive and with tons of flaws this is not the IFBB judging criteria

fixed for accuracy.

peashooter arms and all. lol

[Hulkster]

you can't counter a cognizant argument

I dont have to- reality does it all quite nicely:

[m8]

I dont have to- reality does it all quite nicely:

I wonder why all those shots don't show their calves 
Dorian is destroying Ronnie in that comparison.

[calfzilla]

Monster bic...oh wait they are monster biceps.   

[NarcissisticDeity]

fixed for accuracy.

peashooter arms and all. lol

Again more outright ignorance coming from someone with peashooter calves that wouldn't measure up to a Ms Olympia contestant , Dorian's arms , ARMS Hulkster , biceps , triceps and forearms in these pics are anything but peashooters and you know it 

and you're not factoring in the other parts of balance & proportion , like arm length in relation to the torso , torso length in relation to the legs , upper & lower balance , muscular proportion through out the entire physique which clearly favor's Dorian

[NarcissisticDeity]

I dont have to- reality does it all quite nicely:

Hulkster reality isn't a bizzy made screencap we've established this as well , that's a color screencap that had all the color removed and the lighting adjusted that's the furthest from ' reality ' one can get

and again a contest setting is a lot different from a dark gym , Dorian doesn't have the aid of contest lighting a deep & even tan , posing oil and he's still more than holding his own and it gets worse for you because its a magazine scan compared to a worked screencap lol again nothing you type is in the realm of reality

[Hulkster]

HD pulling stuff out his ass as usual

that was NOT a bizzy screencap and I love how black and white is not reality anymore

well, I guess that means dorian never looked that good because he looked like shit in colour compared those black and white shots..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

HD pulling stuff out his ass as usual

that was NOT a bizzy screencap and I love how black and white is not reality anymore

well, I guess that means dorian never looked that good because he looked like shit in colour compared those black and white shots..

 

Hulkster thats a screencap thats blatantly obvious that someone tool the color out and made it b&w like Bizzy did trying to make Ronnie grainy

[England_1]

This is quite possibly the greatest bodybuilding shot of all time 

[Hulkster]

Iceman first posted that pic.

I supposed you are going to accuse him of shopping it too?

Mr. I photoshopped Dorian Pics

 

[Hulkster]

you don't need to be "grainy" when you look this good: lol

dorian couldn't touch this with a 20 foot pole:

[NarcissisticDeity]

Iceman first posted that pic.

I supposed you are going to accuse him of shopping it too?

Mr. I photoshopped Dorian Pics

 

I wouldn't put it past him and I didn't photoshopp Dorian pics thats a lie I posted one big difference and you know it . but aren't you the same guy who claimed it didn't matter anyway because sharpening a pic can't give it detail?  

anyway I busted Bizzy for working pictures and you kept using them knowing the worked them so at the least even if what you said was true I would be no different from you , but the truth of the matter is I didn't work that pic so you're out of luck either way.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you don't need to be "grainy" when you look this good: lol

dorian couldn't touch this with a 20 foot pole:

Ah classic Hulkster retort blanket statement lol Dorian could very much touch Ronnie 1999 , Ronnie looks great in that pic .

and none of the Ronnie pics needed to be touched at all thats the whole point but they were

[Hulkster]

and none of the Ronnie pics needed to be touched at all thats the whole point 

agreed.

but its too bad we can't say the same for the dorian pics.

they need all the touching up they can get:

[roc]

ronnie is in a class by himself