WAVELENGTH 8 short weeks on the Adonis Principles! Before and After.

[The True Adonis]

[The True Adonis]

Just don`t ask him what he drinks!

HAHAHA

[m8]

All lighting.

[marcus]

Great build. Looks like some gyno too.

[wavelength]

Haha, no gyno, just a little fat. Will hopefully be gone in a few weeks.

[DK II]

Haha, no gyno, just a little fat. Will hopefully be gone in a few weeks.

translation:

surgery is planned on friday.

j/k.


keep it up, you look great!

[wavelength]

translation:

surgery is planned on friday.

j/k.


keep it up, you look great!

Thanks!

Haha, it looks a little bit like it, but there ain't no hard tissue, just flab. If I'm lucky, it will go away with the diet.

And thanks also TA for putting me on the main board.
I'm afraid I won't recover.

[Nordic Superman]

What are the principles?

[DK II]

What are the principles?

eat shit all day, put up fancy wine bottles in your apartment and post stupid old pictures.

oh yeah and deadlifting 225x112 every day in under 3 minutes.

[Perfection]

these photos look weird, I don't think they are real, who has a blank white background to take photos against in there home, also look at the coloring, very susupicous

[wavelength]

What are the principles?

I posted my diet method and TA said it pretty much sums up his principles. So I guess we could call them the "Adonis Principles" (if TA approves), since he quite obviously talked about them before me. This is my current method:

Basic Principles:

- A minimum daily protein intake (1g/lb bodyweight is sufficient for everyone),
- a variety of food good enough for proper nutrient intake (e.g. USRDA which can easily be met),
- a deficiency of calories which leads to 1-3 lbs of weight loss per week,
- hard weight training at least 3 times a week.

Factors of minimal, no, or even negative influence are:

- the ratio of macro nutrients other than defined by the rules above,
- abandonment of alcohol,
- intake of "supplements",
- proper spacing of meals during the day,
- cardio training.

I agree that saying "I eat whatever I want" doesn't quite sum it up, but I guess he says it mainly to distinguish his method from the classical bodybuilder diet.  

[wavelength]

these photos look weird, I don't think they are real, who has a blank white background to take photos against in there home, also look at the coloring, very susupicous

No need for suspicion, all my pics are doctored:

- I use a crappy snapshot camera, which does a lot of doctoring itself,
- I adjust colors (because of the crappy camera),
- I cut out the background, because I prefer anonymity,
- I remove prominent features (moles) for the same reason.

I would never lie about that, but I would also not release an undoctored pic on the internet.

[Deicide]

I posted my diet method and TA said it pretty much sums up his principles. So I guess we could call them the "Adonis Principles" (if TA approves), since he quite obviously talked about them before me. This is my current method:

Basic Principles:

- A minimum daily protein intake (1g/lb bodyweight is sufficient for everyone),
- a variety of food good enough for proper nutrient intake (e.g. USRDA which can easily be met),
- a deficiency of calories which leads to 1-3 lbs of weight loss per week,
- hard weight training at least 3 times a week.

Factors of minimal, no, or even negative influence are:

- the ratio of macro nutrients other than defined by the rules above,
- abandonment of alcohol,
- intake of "supplements",
- proper spacing of meals during the day,
- cardio training.

I agree that saying "I eat whatever I want" doesn't quite sum it up, but I guess he says it mainly to distinguish his method from the classical bodybuilder diet.  

Different individuals react differently to different macronutrient intake...that's a fact.

[Nordic Superman]

I posted my diet method and TA said it pretty much sums up his principles. So I guess we could call them the "Adonis Principles" (if TA approves), since he quite obviously talked about them before me. This is my current method:

Basic Principles:

- A minimum daily protein intake (1g/lb bodyweight is sufficient for everyone),
- a variety of food good enough for proper nutrient intake (e.g. USRDA which can easily be met),
- a deficiency of calories which leads to 1-3 lbs of weight loss per week,
- hard weight training at least 3 times a week.

Factors of minimal, no, or even negative influence are:

- the ratio of macro nutrients other than defined by the rules above,
- abandonment of alcohol,
- intake of "supplements",
- proper spacing of meals during the day,
- cardio training.

I agree that saying "I eat whatever I want" doesn't quite sum it up, but I guess he says it mainly to distinguish his method from the classical bodybuilder diet.  

That's all fine and dandy but from a scientific standpoint false. It assumes the human partaking in this diet isn't a variable - i.e. a constant and that all people are the same.

I'm a consumer of alcohol myself and from my perspective it has a definitive negative impact, although I still drink due to social requirements - the positives outweigh the negatives.

An important but often overlooked factor in weight gain or loss -- in addition to the kinds of foods that are ingested -- is meal frequency. A number of studies on the subject have determined that eating more frequent, smaller meals or “snacks” during the day tends to lower total serum cholesterol levels, improve glucose tolerance, and mute weight gain. Tests conducted on groups participating in this eating approach, often termed “grazing vs. gorging”, show that spreading caloric intake throughout the day instead of compressing it into two or three meals has positive effects on general health as well as on achieving and maintaining ideal weight.

Some foods have low nutritional value, and if consumed on a regular basis will contribute to the decline of human health. This has been demonstrated by various epidemiological studies that have determined that foods such as processed and fast foods are linked to diabetes and various heart problems.

The energy humans get from food is limited by the efficiency of digestion and the efficiency of utilization. The efficiency of digestion is largely dependent on the type of food being eaten. Poorly chewed seeds are poorly digested. Refined sugars and fats are absorbed almost completely. Chewing does not compensate for the calorie content of a food that is eaten; even celery, which is primarily indigestible cellulose, contains enough sugars to easily compensate for the cost of chewing it.

[wavelength]

Different individuals react differently to different macronutrient intake...that's a fact.

That's possible of course, I can only go from my experience.

[Nordic Superman]

That's possible of course, I can only go from my experience.

Possible? No, it's a FACT.

It's a fact I breath air, and it's a fact I have a ever so slightly different digestive system to you.

[BroadStreetBruiser]

eat shit all day, put up fancy wine bottles in your apartment and post stupid old pictures.

oh yeah and deadlifting 225x112 every day in under 3 minutes.

so negative. are you jealous or something?

[wavelength]

That's all fine and dandy but from a scientific standpoint false. It assumes the human partaking in this diet isn't a variable - i.e. a constant and that all people are the same.

I'm a consumer of alcohol myself and from my perspective it has a definitive negative impact, although I still drink due to social requirements - the positives outweigh the negatives.

Yes of course. I can only say that I tried a lot of different methods and this one is by far the best. I have tried with or without alcohol, low-carb, no-carb, no fat, etc. I either see no difference or the current method working even better.

[DK II]

so negative. are you jealous or something?

What do you have against me?

You always post when i post against TA.

I'm not negative, i'm just sick of his Bullshit.

I don't know why you are so concerned with me not liking TA's lies.

[wavelength]

Possible? No, it's a FACT.
It's a fact I breath air, and it's a fact I have a ever so slightly different digestive system to you.

That's a fact of course. I must admit that I don't have a very scientific approach anymore. Following the principles seems to be enough for me, so why should I deprive myself of all the foods I like?

[travisma]

TA is full of it.... all lies with nothing to back up anything he says....

JUST LIES!!!

[bodybuilder1234]

Cardio is overrated.
Natural bodybuilder Jrod said he does 10 sessions of cardio over a 16 week period for the Team Universe.


Working out, food consumption and the daily grind of life should be enough to burn the pounds away.

[Nordic Superman]

That's a fact of course. I must admit that I don't have a very scientific approach anymore. Following the principles seems to be enough for me, so why should I deprive myself of all the foods I like?

I'm totally against depriving yourself of the foods you like. That's when all this training shit starts to get queer and obsessive.

The assertion that a calorie == calorie is false.

I eat what I want - generally speaking, but I don't over do it. Simple self control and will power, it doesn't require me to think about it, it's just done, none of these fallacious and pretentious "principles" required...

The amount of false facts spewed by TA is a joke.

[wavelength]

I'm totally against depriving yourself of the foods you like. That's when all this training shit starts to get queer and obsessive.

I agree.

The assertion that a calorie == calorie is false.

My list clearly shows that this is not one of the rules. There are rules to macro nutrient composition, just not as strict as in a classical bodybuilding diet.

I eat what I want - generally speaking, but I don't over do it. Simple self control and will power, it doesn't require me to think about it, it's just done, none of these fallacious and pretentious "principles" required...

That is not in confilct with and is in fact easily applied to my list of rules. I just like clear, exact definitions. That's why I came up with my list.

[Nordic Superman]

My list clearly shows that this is not one of the rules. There are rules to macro nutrient composition, just not as strict as in a classical bodybuilding diet.

So you're saying anyone saying otherwise is incorrect?