hahahaha! Muscletime Snubbs Dorian Yates!

[Hulkster]

Hey hows it feel being owned by Horton? LMFAO


I love how you posted a quote from forcedreps in response to Bizzy's PHOTOSHOPPED pics LMFAO

boy did this thread really backfire lol you're such a tool

how about this pic that Bizzy took the color out of and tried to make Ronnie grainy LMFAO

sigh. you just don't get it.

Bizzy openly experimented with tools and told us all what he was doing as he did it.

YOU photoshopped dorian pics and posted them without telling anyone, trying to pass them off as real.

there is a big difference between these two things...

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

your friend ND knows a lot about photoshopping . I caught and exposed him for the whole board to see: touching up dorian pics and comparing them to Ronnie..

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0

hows THAT for photoshopping? lol

Nice try at DEFLECTION and like this thread that one backfired as well

I never photoshopped any Dorian pics   I posted that ONE pic and I didn't touch either , so as usual you have NOTHING

I didn't make this one either but I posted it  

Hulkster = owned again

[NarcissisticDeity]

sigh. you just don't get it.

Bizzy openly experimented with tools and told us all what he was doing as he did it.

YOU photoshopped dorian pics and posted them without telling anyone, trying to pass them off as real.

there is a big difference between these two things...

 

No he didn't he was open at ALL he lied and said he never knew about the sharping tool until about a month ago lol I dug up a post that he forgot about him showing how he sharpened pics lol open and honest my ass

again YOU keep claiming I photoshopped pics which is a lie , the difference being I proved Bizzy was and you can't prove I did  like I said I posted it I didn't touch


busted 

Kevin Horton says Hulkster = Teh Gay lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

Bizzy claiming and I quote

May 18th 2008

I have never know about this tool up until a month or so ago

Bizzy Nov 14th 2007

Regular pic

Sharpened

Sharpened more 

Uh Oh Bizzy caught in a lie lol

He was sharpening pictures all along and I busted him period end of sentence

[NarcissisticDeity]

More proof of Bizzy's handywork a picture he removed the color from and sharpened it to TRY and make Ronnie appear grainy lol


he post just the black & white and I remember I knew I seen this pic somewhere before and sure as shit I found it

[kmhphoto]

your friend ND knows a lot about photoshopping . I caught and exposed him for the whole board to see: touching up dorian pics and comparing them to Ronnie..

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0

hows THAT for photoshopping? lol

Why bother to quote my response to you, then fail to answer a single question?

Accusing someone else of something doesn't make you any less guilty.

[bizzy]

I really wanted to stay out of this and let a dead dog lie
but feel I need to tell the truth of the subject.
First, I was stating that up until the graphic artist mentioned
the unsharp mask tool (by his demonstration of the 1993 Yates backshot)
that I had no idea what the tool was or did.
I am not a graphic artist and the words sharpen and sharpen more
would seem by the word to make a picture more detailed. When you see unsharp mask it would seem to mean that would make a picture less detailed.
I had never used or experimented with the unmask sharp tool until the graphic
artist mentioned it.

[bizzy]

My 1st post ever on getbig was Sept. 28, 2007
On November 1, I posted a leg shot of Ronnie from the 1999 VHS.
(Not Mine as I hadn't gotten my DVD Recorder yet. I probably did add a little light
to it if I thought it was too dark at that time.
 
On November 3rd I wrote,
Man,
Ronnie was ripped in 99..
I'm gonna buy a DVD burner just so I can
transfer some of my older vids to DVD and
find some screencaps from 99 that are unreal;
in addition to the ones that are already out there.

The link to the overcontrasted photoshopped pics.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.msg2522033#msg2522033

[bizzy]

On November 13, where the B&W most muscular pic is used...

I know this term started with Dorian but what
would actually be a good definition of the term
Grainy? What causes it? Genetics? Training Style, ect?
There are a few things in photoshop that makes bodybuilders
look more grainy. They are in the filter section and are sharpen
and sharpen more. Here are a couple of Coleman pics that are
unshopped to my knowledge where I think he looks
somewhat grainy; although he's not known for that characteristic.
I will also post 3 pics of Dorian with just the regular pic
then sharpened...
then sharpened more...
Once again, what is the definition for grainy and how is it achieved?

The context of the discussion was that some pictures make
bodybuilders look more grainy. A more pixelated pic can appear
to give a BB a grainy look. My purpose was not to compare Yates and Coleman's
graininess but to get a definition and that some pictures make
bodybuilders look more grainy (therefore the black and white pic).
I didn't sharpen it but did make it grayscale to make it look more grainy.
November 13th..

[nycbull]

there is no need to even use the sharpen tool, It is actually not a very good tool, the best way is to simply increase the contrast with the contrast tool, it will instantly add 10 -20 lbs of muscle and add some hardness as well. T....You can also easily smudge or blur light areas into darker areas creaing a fuller thicker bicep i.e.  Its easy and Im sure done all the time.

[bizzy]

Once again showing honesty all through this...

November 14,
I shed a little light
on Hulksters 99 side chest pic. I do this as well with any pics
that are too dark including Dorian's.
November 14th again...
Nobody's messed with the pics
unless you count adding a little brightness to them if they are too dark. Many of the muscletime pics are often too dark and I often lighten them to make everybody look better.

November 15th
I don't think most people see anything wrong
with taking a picture that is too dark and adding
a little light to it. I'm not changing colors, stretching an image
or enhancing it except that you can see the picture better.
Any of those screen caps earlier in this thread of 3 different color
Ronnies; None of those came from me.

[nycbull]

I dont believe there is really anything "grainy",,, I just think some guys have thinner, freckly skin thats all,,,,why is all the white scottish irish types are always grainy but you never hear that about the black or hispanic guys....

[bizzy]

November 18th,
That's one of the 3 pics from I put up
from the 1st VHS to DVD transfer. I personally
think it looks like crap but you are right. It is lighting
and contrast on those 3 pics. I overdid the contrast
and I think the one on the left looks alot better.
November 18th,
(Speaking about the 4 overcontrasted photoshopped pics posted)
When I say they look like crap, I still think Ronnie
looks great in the pics and I can see why Hulkster
would like them. From an artistic perspective they do look
like crap because the contrast is way too high. I was in a hurry
and my 1st Vhs to DVD transfer wasn't set quite right to get
the best picture.

[nycbull]

Once again showing honesty all through this...

November 14,
I shed a little light
on Hulksters 99 side chest pic. I do this as well with any pics
that are too dark including Dorian's.
November 14th again...
Nobody's messed with the pics
unless you count adding a little brightness to them if they are too dark. Many of the muscletime pics are often too dark and I often lighten them to make everybody look better.

November 15th
I don't think most people see anything wrong
with taking a picture that is too dark and adding
a little light to it. I'm not changing colors, stretching an image
or enhancing it except that you can see the picture better.
Any of those screen caps earlier in this thread of 3 different color
Ronnies; None of those came from me.

no lightening is fine, you can do that with levels I believe, it just makes everything brighter unlike the contrast/brightness tool which makes  light areas brighter and dark areas darker popping out the muscle.

[bizzy]

Thanks for your insight Bull...
I'm just trying to clear up somethings that
people could perceive me as being dishonest.

On December 1st I started posting quality frame captures
from my good video to DVD transfer.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.msg2577460#msg2577460

Quote from the same day...
(Well, It's obvious I havn't lightened the pictures because they are still too dark
but I'm not touching anything from here on out.)
And I havn't since...

[bizzy]

The reason for the different quality in colors even from the same VCR...
Forced Reps and I both got our VCR tapes from GMV so reason
would say that they should look exactly the same.The main difference is in the software used to make the frame captures
and to a lesser extent the hardware used to transfer the video to the computer.
I use Power DVD # 4 which is one of the highest quality computer DVD players.

Here is a link to a free trial download...
http://www.oldapps.com/PowerDVD.php

Take frame capture with this and then compare it to WMP, Real Player,
Quicktime, ect. and you will see they look very different.
Power DVD is an $80 piece of software and I just use the default settings.

This is why Dailymotion video looks very dark. Because I made it
with free, low quality video software.

I honestly didn't want to comment on this any further but someone is insistent on digging
up photoshopped pictures back from November. When I realized it was a problem
lighting and contrasting pictures I stopped.
If you still think they are shopped then use Forced Reps VCR or DVD Frame Captures.
I think if you look through my comments made barely a month after I started posting here
that I was honest all the way through with what I was doing with pictues.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I really wanted to stay out of this and let a dead dog lie
but feel I need to tell the truth of the subject.
First, I was stating that up until the graphic artist mentioned
the unsharp mask tool (by his demonstration of the 1993 Yates backshot)
that I had no idea what the tool was or did.
I am not a graphic artist and the words sharpen and sharpen more
would seem by the word to make a picture more detailed. When you see unsharp mask it would seem to mean that would make a picture less detailed.
I had never used or experimented with the unmask sharp tool until the graphic
artist mentioned it.

Bull shit

Bizzy claiming and I quote

May 18th 2008

I have never know about this tool up until a month or so ago

Bizzy Nov 14th 2007

Regular pic

Sharpened

Sharpened more

[NarcissisticDeity]

My 1st post ever on getbig was Sept. 28, 2007
On November 1, I posted a leg shot of Ronnie from the 1999 VHS.
(Not Mine as I hadn't gotten my DVD Recorder yet. I probably did add a little light
to it if I thought it was too dark at that time.
 
On November 3rd I wrote,
Man,
Ronnie was ripped in 99..
I'm gonna buy a DVD burner just so I can
transfer some of my older vids to DVD and
find some screencaps from 99 that are unreal;
in addition to the ones that are already out there.

The link to the overcontrasted photoshopped pics.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.msg2522033#msg2522033

no probably , none of your screencaps matched anything that was posted before them from forcedreps & pain

the moment you started tampering with pictures your credibility is shot and anything YOU made can't be trusted , just like the pic you made of Ronnie trying to make him grainy

[NarcissisticDeity]

I dont believe there is really anything "grainy",,, I just think some guys have thinner, freckly skin thats all,,,,why is all the white scottish irish types are always grainy but you never hear that about the black or hispanic guys....

exactly its from guys with fair skin like Big Red Ken Waller

[bizzy]

Bull shit

Bizzy claiming and I quote

May 18th 2008

I have never know about this tool up until a month or so ago

Bizzy Nov 14th 2007

Regular pic

Sharpened

Sharpened more

Fine ND, If you want to squabble over exact semantics you got me
but the fact is I had no idea what the tool was or did. (Or had never used it
until the graphic artist demonstrated what it did with the Yates BDB shot.)
Referring to the Unsharp Mask Tool...

[nycbull]

exactly its from guys with fair skin like Big Red Ken Waller

thanks, finally someone agreed with me.... I mean if someone was actually grainy then there would be something wrong with their muscle scheething, or blood capillaries under the skin or something.  And it wouldnt just happen to one in a thousand guys...and if it did it would be the result of genetics not hard training and dieting.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Fine ND, If you want to squabble over exact semantics you got me
but the fact is I had no idea what the tool was or did. (Or had never used it
until the graphic artist demonstrated what it did with the Yates BDB shot.)
Referring to the Unsharp Mask Tool...

its not a matter of semantics thats you clearly caught in a lie

saying I've never heard of it and then me posting a pic of YOU showing how you did it from a year previous , you're full of shit and then you kinda hint around that I probably added some light   get out of here you made pictures the way you wanted just like this one

the reason why we all came to the conclusion you were working pictures is because we had something to compare them to and the bottom line is its NOT an accurate representation of how he appeared

[bizzy]

its not a matter of semantics thats you clearly caught in a lie

saying I've never heard of it and then me posting a pic of YOU showing how you did it from a year previous , you're full of shit and then you kinda hint around that I probably added some light   get out of here you made pictures the way you wanted just like this one

the reason why we all came to the conclusion you were working pictures is because we had something to compare them to and the bottom line is its NOT an accurate representation of how he appeared

This is exactly why I don't argue with you ND.
First I havn't posted here a year yet.
Secondly, You saw me being honest about using
sharpen and sharpen more....
We are talking about unsharp mask and no word twisting
or minipulation is going to make the example you used with
the Yates pictures say Unsharp Mask..
They say sharpen and sharpen more.
November 14th

[webcake]

The internet sure is serious business 

[bizzy]

Hey at least ND can get some satisfaction that
I'm only going to get a few hours of sleep before
working tomorrow because of spending so much time on this
stupid thread.