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McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« on: September 07, 2008, 11:36:04 PM »
Can you imagine being a Democrat & having a Republican president with a historically low approval rating and your candidate still can't put away the Republican nominees.

Word of advice to you dumb fuck Democrats...Try running against McCain.  Enjoy, and if you need help moving to Canada PM me.

Poll: Convention lifts McCain over Obama

By Susan Page, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — The Republican National Convention has given John McCain and his party a significant boost, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken over the weekend shows, as running mate Sarah Palin helps close an "enthusiasm gap" that has dogged the GOP all year.

McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican's biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7 percentage points.

CONVENTION: GOP rejuvenated

The convention bounce has helped not only McCain but also attitudes toward Republican congressional candidates and the GOP in general.

"The Republicans had a very successful convention and, at least initially, the selection of Sarah Palin has made a big difference," says political scientist Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia. "He's in a far better position than his people imagined he would be in at this point."
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However, in an analysis of the impact of political conventions since 1960, Sabato concluded that post-convention polls signal the election's outcome only about half the time. "You could flip a coin and be about as predictive," he says. "It is really surprising how quickly convention memories fade."

McCain has narrowed Obama's wide advantage on handling the economy, by far the electorate's top issue. Before the GOP convention, Obama was favored by 19 points; now he's favored by 3.

The Republican's ties to President Bush remains a vulnerability. In the poll, 63% say they are concerned he would pursue policies too similar to those of the current president. Bush's approval rating is 33%.

In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/— 3 points for both samples.

Among the findings:

• Before the convention, Republicans by 47%-39% were less enthusiastic than usual about voting. Now, they are more enthusiastic by 60%-24%, a sweeping change that narrows a key Democratic advantage. Democrats report being more enthusiastic by 67%-19%.

• Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a national unknown before McCain chose her for the ticket 10 days ago, draws a strong reaction from voters on both sides. Now, 29% say she makes them more likely to vote for McCain, 21% less likely.

Obama's choice of Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as running mate made 14% more likely to vote for the Democrat, 7% less likely.

• McCain's acceptance speech Thursday received lower ratings than the one Obama gave a week earlier: 15% called McCain's speech "excellent" compared with 35% for Obama.
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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 05:30:43 AM »
once obama took the lead over hilary in polls, he started losing states.  his 'underdog' status meant his young base wasn't motivated to get up and vote.

those state-by-states still say the same thing, though... not good news for mccain.

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 06:09:34 AM »
Not looking good for Obama. 

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 06:28:24 AM »
once obama took the lead over hilary in polls, he started losing states.  his 'underdog' status meant his young base wasn't motivated to get up and vote.

those state-by-states still say the same thing, though... not good news for mccain.


Man you gotta spin on everything. Your boy's gettin his ass handed to him by an old fart who is a lot like G. Bush, and a nobody, know nothing. You all revere him as being the Messiah. You got all of the liberal T.V and internet news broadcasters (except for Fox). You got 99% of the print media thats endorsing him. Tell me now, why can't Obama put him away? He should be leading by double digits, but he's losing 50-46, and you say not good news for McCain? NOT GOOD NEWS FOR MCCAIN???? Seriously, admit that this is way closer than it should be. Be credible.
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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 08:51:33 AM »

Man you gotta spin on everything. Your boy's gettin his ass handed to him by an old fart who is a lot like G. Bush, and a nobody, know nothing. You all revere him as being the Messiah. You got all of the liberal T.V and internet news broadcasters (except for Fox). You got 99% of the print media thats endorsing him. Tell me now, why can't Obama put him away? He should be leading by double digits, but he's losing 50-46, and you say not good news for McCain? NOT GOOD NEWS FOR MCCAIN???? Seriously, admit that this is way closer than it should be. Be credible.

You're citing national polls.

Al Goe won the national vote.  How did that work out for him?

In America, we have an electoral process which works by states.  Learn more: http://pollster.com/

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 09:29:44 AM »
We really can't start looking at polls yet, it's still too early.

This country is in bad shape. Biden will make Palin look more ignorant than what she already is when they start debating.

If the Republicans win this race, it will prove this country election process is corrupt.

With everything that has happened to this country and the economy over the last eight years, no one in their right mind would vote for someone who has backed 90% of George Bush's decisions.

Bill Clinton made a very good point when he said, "the last 8 years, is the first time in 25 years Republicans have control the White House and Congress, and look what has happen to our country."

*Highest deficit in the history of the U.S.
*Over the last 8 years we pay 3 times as much for a gallon of gas.
*Food prices.
*We now pay twice as much for healthcare
*Highest unemployment rate in 25 years.
*Millions of people have lost their homes.
*Bush has pissed off every other Country in the World.
*A war with no end in sight.

The list could keep going.

All I'm saying is, who in their right f**king mind would vote for another 4 years of this bullshit.

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2008, 09:34:22 AM »
240...Obama has been tanking since mid way through the primaries.....the polls matter now. McCain has ground to make up, no doubt but things are trending in his direction.
Sorry Mark but raising taxes, bullshit social spending, a naive foreign policy, the list for not voting Obama  is endless. As someone who's done multiple tours overseas and understands the threat, an Obama presidency would be a friggen disaster. This guy has no clue. Hil would have been a better choice.
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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 09:36:56 AM »
"Likely voters" is key here.

Even though polls are really not an issue right now, i wonder if all the polls showing Obama in the lead were "likely voters"

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 09:38:55 AM »
haha now polls all of a sudden don't matter anymore to dems

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 09:42:31 AM »
we have less then 60 days.......the debates will call this one. I think many of us said they'd start to matter after the conventions. I'm sure the polls will have them tied again by next week. If they aren't Obama is in trouble....if McCain is ahead after the debates, he's done.
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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 09:44:13 AM »
if you didn't vote in 2004, you are not considered a likely voters.

Thsi means they're discounting anyone age 18 to 21.

Methinks a few kids in that age might vote.  I wonder which candidate they'll pick?

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 09:49:45 AM »
we have less then 60 days.......the debates will call this one. I think many of us said they'd start to matter after the conventions. I'm sure the polls will have them tied again by next week. If they aren't Obama is in trouble....if McCain is ahead after the debates, he's done.

I agree.  The past patterns seem to show the dems need a BIG lead in the polls to have a chance.

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 10:02:28 AM »
Kick out Cali and NY, and the Dems don't have any chance at all.

In Cali, take the Bay Area and LA-SD strip out, and it's a red state.

Those three cities are basically 46 electorial votes for the Dems.

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 10:05:16 AM »
Kick out Cali and NY, and the Dems don't have any chance at all.

In Cali, take the Bay Area and LA-SD strip out, and it's a red state.

Those three cities are basically 46 electorial votes for the Dems.

Hi, Unrelated Opinion. 

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 10:07:46 AM »
Yes, I know.

But since we were talking about likely voting and such...

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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2008, 10:10:25 AM »
Yes, I know.

But since we were talking about likely voting and such...

Here check this out


John McCain is most likely to pounce on Obama, proof will come after the debates

when sta sta stuttering Obama tries to weasel himself out of questions

we still have 3 days of O'Reilly interviews with Obama this week

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2008, 11:02:06 AM »
You're citing national polls.

Al Goe won the national vote.  How did that work out for him?

In America, we have an electoral process which works by states.  Learn more: http://pollster.com/

And by the states, it a horse race. Per CNN's numbers it's Obama, 228; McCain, 200. That's without toss-up states.

With them, its Obama/Biden 217, McCain/Palin 174.


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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2008, 11:04:26 AM »
And by the states, it a horse race. Per CNN's numbers it's Obama, 228; McCain, 200.



Not the facts again. 

The polls absolutely matter at this point.  Two months before election day.  Coming down to the home stretch. 

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2008, 11:18:35 AM »
Not the facts again. 

The polls absolutely matter at this point.  Two months before election day.  Coming down to the home stretch. 

This 10-point lead will likely drop within a week. For team Obama's sake, it'd better drop. If McCain can hold on to those "toss-up" states that went for Bush in 2004, he's in business and we have our first female VP.

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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2008, 11:28:46 AM »
If McCain can hold on to those "toss-up" states that went for Bush in 2004, he's in business and we have our first female VP.

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2008, 11:29:19 AM »
This 10-point lead will likely drop within a week. For team Obama's sake, it'd better drop. If McCain can hold on to those "toss-up" states that went for Bush in 2004, he's in business and we have our first female VP.

I agree.  It will tighten up.  We're probably looking at another squeaker.  I'm really interested to see how they perform in debates.  

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2008, 06:00:20 PM »
You're citing national polls.

Al Goe won the national vote.  How did that work out for him?

In America, we have an electoral process which works by states.  Learn more: http://pollster.com/


You missed my point. What I'm saying is Obama should be beating their ass, and instead it's close. It should'nt even be close. Don't give me the state by state BS anymore, cuz it ain't true now that Mac's got his his bitch on the ticket......
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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2008, 06:01:52 PM »

You missed my point. What I'm saying is Obama should be beating their ass, and instead it's close. It should'nt even be close. Don't give me the state by state BS anymore, cuz it ain't true now that Mac's got his his bitch on the ticket......
Why should Obama be beating their asses?

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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2008, 06:02:41 PM »
I've been saying it all along...the Dems should be kicking ass, yet because of Obama they're not.
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Re: McCain/Palin take 10 point lead in Likely Voters
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2008, 06:14:04 PM »
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