Peter Putnam and Bob Chic train...............

[jtsunami]

bob please dont take offense but that was a friggin crappy video and i will tell u why

1st off there was hardly any trainingings and when they do train its all pussy machines

next ,bob... thats great u allow to be on camera but can u please stop hogging spotlight and balbbing in your robotic monotone voice

also i could care less about silvio samuel-so why do we need to see him in video about peter putnam

did putnam even win his pro card??? i dont think so-yeah i guess your world famous bob training really helps him

also bob i sse this in all ya videos u treat the gym like a coffee shop-christ stop blabbing and acting u like mayor of golds and just do some real training-ya know like when u sit and watch pj braun squat last year

also jermome ferguson would have made this video 1000x better

100% agree

[njflex]

And you wonder why guys that actually know how to train and eat don't listen to probodybuilders.  They are all drugs.  That guys form sucked balls.  And I'm sure his nutritional advice is probably even worse.  Most pros couldn't tell you the difference between an alpha receptor and a beta receptor or the difference between glycogenolysis and lipolysis yet they are all "experts" in bodybuilding.  LOL.  Let alone let them try to explain the inner workings of an androgen receptor, half lives, and basice steroid pharmacology. 

GOOD POINT,BUT IN MOST CASES ITS THROUGH HERESAY TOLD WHAT TO DO AND WHEN TO DO,IF AND WHEN THEY DECIDE TO VENTURE TO THE DRUG SIDE OF BBING.BASICS OF EATING AND TRAINING IS EASY,THE REST OF THE MAJOR BREAKDOWN OF FOODS LEAVE TO THE CHEMIST AND DRS TO EXPLAIN.

[Pete Nice]

ttt

[alejandro_torres]

i can just se jerome asking peter what rims he got on his ride... Bob, even thou we rag on him, is the best bb to have as frontman of anything basically, he is a wellspoken/presented pro who knows his shit about bb... And he loves the sport... Plus he puts up with us daily hahaha... Even shawn would be better than jerome...

[MuscleMcMannus]

GOOD POINT,BUT IN MOST CASES ITS THROUGH HERESAY TOLD WHAT TO DO AND WHEN TO DO,IF AND WHEN THEY DECIDE TO VENTURE TO THE DRUG SIDE OF BBING.BASICS OF EATING AND TRAINING IS EASY,THE REST OF THE MAJOR BREAKDOWN OF FOODS LEAVE TO THE CHEMIST AND DRS TO EXPLAIN.

I'll have to disagree with you on the basics of training and eating being easy.  It's taken me years of experimenting with my body, training, dieting to figure out what works.  I wasted months and years listening to advice in the musclemags to no avail.  I went to the dark side and made great gains but of course half of that effort went away when I came off.   I'm just now starting to make better progress than I ever have, naturally.  I was stuck in the 3 day a week split, 6 meals a day bullshit for years.  I'm now working out 4 days a week and eating three big meals a day and my gains are excellent. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

i can just se jerome asking peter what rims he got on his ride... Bob, even thou we rag on him, is the best bb to have as frontman of anything basically, he is a wellspoken/presented pro who knows his shit about bb... And he loves the sport... Plus he puts up with us daily hahaha... Even shawn would be better than jerome...

Bob knows about bodybuilding......i.e. the "sport".  He knows the competitors, the shows, the inner workings of the industry, he's a great promoter, a great stage hand.  But what does he really know about training and nutrition?  Would he even know how to read a study out of the JAMA or NJOM?  What is his education background?  Nutrition? Physiology?  Has he even written a book on training and nutrition? 

[michael arvilla]

Bob knows about bodybuilding......i.e. the "sport".  He knows the competitors, the shows, the inner workings of the industry, he's a great promoter, a great stage hand.  But what does he really know about training and nutrition?  Would he even know how to read a study out of the JAMA or NJOM?  What is his education background?  Nutrition? Physiology?  Has he even written a book on training and nutrition? 

  It's not Rocket Science MM...................... take in 30 - 40 grams of protein per meal ,space em out every 3 - 4 hrs
 low fat,low sugar....medium carbs (rotate ur daily carb intake ) train hard/heavy on the basic movements
get plenty of sleep/rest,do ur cardio ...take ur "supplements............. ....Bob doesn't need to write a book
he knows/knew enough to slug it out for years and turn pro!
  real life experience.............. ......don't get no better than that!

[S_Samuel]

I like Bob, he adds personality to these videos.

What I don't like is how all these pro's/top amateurs train like pussies. You're lucky to see 1 freeweight movement when a video is recorded at Gold's... pathetic.

[NaturalWonder83]

I like Bob, he adds personality to these videos.

What I don't like is how all these pro's/top amateurs train like pussies. You're lucky to see 1 freeweight movement when a video is recorded at Gold's... pathetic.

agreed thats bob traiing for u-all machines

[MuscleMcMannus]

  It's not Rocket Science MM...................... take in 30 - 40 grams of protein per meal ,space em out every 3 - 4 hrs
 low fat,low sugar....medium carbs (rotate ur daily carb intake ) train hard/heavy on the basic movements
get plenty of sleep/rest,do ur cardio ...take ur "supplements............. ....Bob doesn't need to write a book
he knows/knew enough to slug it out for years and turn pro!
  real life experience.............. ......don't get no better than that!

Im sure Bob would have no problem training someone like himself i.e. a genetically gifted drug using mesomorph.  But if some lanky 6'5 ectomorph came to him and he used the same training and diet advice he used on himself the poor kid would never make any gains.  People come in all shapes and sizes.  No one protocol works for everyone.  And a majority of the protocols used by probodybuilders will not work for average drug free trainees.  Sorry.  If they did you wouldn't have young kids scrambling to use steroids and the latest greatest supplement. 

[QuakerOats]

Im sure Bob would have no problem training someone like himself i.e. a genetically gifted drug using mesomorph.  But if some lanky 6'5 ectomorph came to him and he used the same training and diet advice he used on himself the poor kid would never make any gains.  People come in all shapes and sizes.  No one protocol works for everyone.  And a majority of the protocols used by probodybuilders will not work for average drug free trainees.  Sorry.  If they did you wouldn't have young kids scrambling to use steroids and the latest greatest supplement. 

Bob laid a foundation first with the heavy basic exercises, squats, benches, rows, etc., he backed off of them later on but even he would admit that he built a lot of his mass that way.

[S_Samuel]

Bob laid a foundation first with the heavy basic exercises, squats, benches, rows, etc., he backed off of them later on but even he would admit that he built a lot of his mass that way.

It's true. Tom Prince used to say Bob could deadlift 315 like nobody's business 

[Hypertrophy]

I just have to laugh at some of the comments that get posted here on GetBig.

Bob Chic is probably one of the most down to earth guys in the sport, after seeing many videos he has done. He's straight up with the posters here, and is one of the few top bodybuilders that presents a good side to the sport. So why all the hate?

As for the juiced to the gills comments, if you are on GetBig for more than, say 10 minutes, you figure out that the use of performance enhancing substances is part of the professional game, whether you like it or not. It is what it is. But there are many who have used steroids that look like crap. So what's the rest of the story? And please, spare me the "hyper responder" BS. Would actually knowing how to train and diet also be part of the story?

Oh, I forget. GH15 says it is entirely drugs, no matter what. Hell, might as well close down the gyms, since they have no effect.

[S_Samuel]

I just have to laugh at some of the comments that get posted here on GetBig.

Bob Chic is probably one of the most down to earth guys in the sport, after seeing many videos he has done. He's straight up with the posters here, and is one of the few top bodybuilders that presents a good side to the sport. So why all the hate?

As for the juiced to the gills comments, if you are on GetBig for more than, say 10 minutes, you figure out that the use of performance enhancing substances is part of the professional game, whether you like it or not. It is what it is. But there are many who have used steroids that look like crap. So what's the rest of the story? And please, spare me the "hyper responder" BS. Would actually knowing how to train and diet also be part of the story?

Oh, I forget. GH15 says it is entirely drugs, no matter what. Hell, might as well close down the gyms, since they have no effect.

Yeah I don't buy that "all drugs" thing. It's bullshit.

The things that go into being a top pro are:
Training
Nutrition
Genetics
Drugs

In that order.

[michael arvilla]

I gotta disagree on one point ..............(and i wished i had realized this much much earlier)

Nutrition/Diet is pretty much the whole ball of wax!
anyone can lift weights................. .it's the dieting/nutrition that sets the wannabes apart from ones who experience success

[MuscleMcMannus]

I gotta disagree on one point ..............(and i wished i had realized this much much earlier)

Nutrition/Diet is pretty much the whole ball of wax!
anyone can lift weights................. .it's the dieting/nutrition that sets the wannabes apart from ones who experience success

So you're saying if I ate EXACTLY how you did, down to the minute and the calorie I'd look like you?  LOL.  If I eat exactly like Jay Cutler and train EXACTLY like him I'll look like him?  Your argument is retarded and makes no sense at all. 

Genetics
Training
Diet/nutrition
drugs

In that order.  Genetics dictate everything.  How you partition calories, how you respond to training, how you respond to drugs etc. 

[S_Samuel]

I gotta disagree on one point ..............(and i wished i had realized this much much earlier)

Nutrition/Diet is pretty much the whole ball of wax!
anyone can lift weights................. .it's the dieting/nutrition that sets the wannabes apart from ones who experience success

Knowing HOW your body responds to training methods makes a decent bodybuilder a better one. An example would be Dorian Yates. He figured out the perfect routine to get his body where it needed to be. The next step was manipulating his nutrition correctly, then the genetics would come into play, with the drugs being the aid and final step. Dorian's response to drugs and training wasn't top notch as first. He had to figure things out and experiment more than most. It paid off.

That's why I said

Training
Nutrition
Genetics
Drugs

[michael arvilla]

You can train till your blue in the face.......take boatloads of steroids and still look like u never touched a weight

get your nutrition down..............you will make incredible gains/look like a bodybuilder

that's all im saying.............Nutri tion is everything  (along with the other factors u named of course)

[MuscleMcMannus]

Knowing HOW your body responds to training methods makes a decent bodybuilder a better one. An example would be Dorian Yates. He figured out the perfect routine to get his body where it needed to be. The next step was manipulating his nutrition correctly, then the genetics would dictate how it would look, with the drugs being the aid and final step.

That's why I said

Training
Nutrition
Genetics
Drugs

Do you even understand what genetics are?  Like I said they dictate everything.  Recovery, partitioning, insulin sensitivity, GH production, Test production, down to things as simple as leverage when doing a certain movement.  No other "sport" relies as much on genetics as bodybuilding.  Only 2% of the population could EVER look like Ronnie Coleman with all the drugs, special diets, and perfect training.  Why is that so hard for you guys to admit?  Does it hamper your own personal goals and ambitions?  If anything realizing your genetic potential should free you and allow you a sense of peace within.  Otherwise you'll constantly be trying to achieve something you never will. Hence why so many guys turn to steroids and drugs.  They think it will give them that edge and make up for shitty genetics when all the top guys have the drugs + genetics.  Mike Arvilla will never have the physique of a top pro bber  now matter how perfect his "ball of wax" is.  No matter how many drugs he uses or no matter how perfect his training is.  That's GENETICS!  I'm sure Mike probably wishes he was 5'9-5'11 instead of 6'2.  Taller bodybuilders are at a huge disadvantage in so many ways.  I know I'm 6'5.  Do you honestly think Dirk Nowitzki could EVER be a professional bodybuilder no matter how hard he trained or how perfect he ate or how many drugs he took?  Of course not.  Bodybuilding operates within a specific spectrum of somatotypes etc.  

[QuakerOats]

Do you even understand what genetics are?  Like I said they dictate everything.  Recovery, partitioning, insulin sensitivity, GH production, Test production, down to things as simple as leverage when doing a certain movement.  No other "sport" relies as much on genetics as bodybuilding.  Only 2% of the population could EVER look like Ronnie Coleman with all the drugs, special diets, and perfect training.  Why is that so hard for you guys to admit?  Does it hamper your own personal goals and ambitions?  If anything realizing your genetic potential should free you and allow you a sense of peace within.  Otherwise you'll constantly be trying to achieve something you never will. Hence why so many guys turn to steroids and drugs.  They think it will give them that edge and make up for shitty genetics when all the top guys have the drugs + genetics.  Mike Arvilla will never have the physique of a top pro bber  now matter how perfect his "ball of wax" is.  No matter how many drugs he uses or no matter how perfect his training is.  That's GENETICS!  I'm sure Mike probably wishes he was 5'9-5'11 instead of 6'2.  Taller bodybuilders are at a huge disadvantage in so many ways.  I know I'm 6'5.  Do you honestly think Dirk Nowitzki could EVER be a professional bodybuilder no matter how hard he trained or how perfect he ate or how many drugs he took?  Of course not.  Bodybuilding operates within a specific spectrum of somatotypes etc.  

give a 22 year old Bo Jackson or Herschel Walker Ronnie's drug, training and diet regimen and they'd have made him look like a fly.

[MuscleMcMannus]

You can train till your blue in the face.......take boatloads of steroids and still look like u never touched a weight

get your nutrition down..............you will make incredible gains/look like a bodybuilder

that's all im saying.............Nutri tion is everything  (along with the other factors u named of course)

That's not true.  There are PLENTY of guys that eat like shit, train hard and heavy and "look" like a bodybuilder.  It's their genetics.  and they don't take drugs.  Nutrition is NOT everything.  If you don't train nutrition doens't mean shit.  You'll just turn into a fat slob.  If anything training and  nutrition are equal, neither being more important than the other with genetics dictating how well you respond to both.  

[MuscleMcMannus]

give a 22 year old Bo Jackson or Herschel Walker Ronnie's drug, training and diet regimen and they'd have made him look like a fly.

Exactly.  Hence why blacks dominate bodybuilding.  The biggest guys in the sport have always been black.  Ronnie, Vic Richards, Sergio, Orville Burke, Paul Dillet, etc.   

[QuakerOats]

Exactly.  Hence why blacks dominate bodybuilding.  The biggest guys in the sport have always been black.  Ronnie, Vic Richards, Sergio, Orville Burke, Paul Dillet, etc.   

exactly, drastically higher natural testosterone levels, many more muscle cells, higher metabolisms, etc. than whites.

[chester_bbb]

exactly, drastically higher natural testosterone levels, many more muscle cells, higher metabolisms, etc. than whites.

What about the arabs, MM?

[MuscleMcMannus]

What about the arabs, MM?

I'll answer a question with a question........what about the Asians?  When was the last time ANY Asian bodybuilder made it into the top 10?  G E N E T I C S.  What's funny is genetics plays such a huge role at the top echelons of bodybuilding but yet for those in the lower ranks and even recreational bodybuilers.......geneti cs is like 4 or 5 on the list of importance?  LOL.