Barr is on the ballot in 41 states

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According to this, the Libertarian party is on the ballot in 43 states, the Green Party in 32 states, the Constitution Party in 34 States, and Ralph Nader in 41 states. 

http://www.ballot-access.org/

And none of it matters. 

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And none of it matters. 

Perot's involvement mattered to Bush in 1992.

If Perot didn't run, Bush1 wins by a mile.

Majority of Barr's votes are coming from mccain's base.  The anti-war, anti-big spending republicans.


So yes, if barr wins 3% of votes in a state where Obama and Mccain are both at 47 or 48%, and most of his votes are coming from mccain's base, it matters big time.

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Perot was unique.  And a billionaire. 

Barr is a dud.  He's arrogant.  Probably a bigot.  Not the brightest bulb IMO. 

Your contention that Barr's votes are coming from "McCain's base" doesn't appear to be supported by the facts.  Libertarians are not Republicans.  Then there is this:

The battle for the presidency also includes some minor party candidates, including Independent Ralph Nader, Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, and Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney — but the poll suggests they don’t have any impact on the shape of the race.

When they are added to the equation, the race between McCain and Obama remains tied, at 45 percent each, with Nader and Barr at 3 percent each and McKinney at 1 percent.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/08/cnn-poll-race-dead-even/#more-17569

[w8tlftr]

I laughed really hard when he ate the boobie cheese in Borat. 

[dario73]

I thought you meant Roseanne.

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Barr is a dud.  He's arrogant.  Probably a bigot.  Not the brightest bulb IMO. 

Your contention that Barr's votes are coming from "McCain's base" doesn't appear to be supported by the facts.  Libertarians are not Republicans.  Then there is this:

The battle for the presidency also includes some minor party candidates, including Independent Ralph Nader, Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, and Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney — but the poll suggests they don’t have any impact on the shape of the race.

When they are added to the equation, the race between McCain and Obama remains tied, at 45 percent each, with Nader and Barr at 3 percent each and McKinney at 1 percent.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/08/cnn-poll-race-dead-even/#more-17569

3% isn't relevant?  It appears quite a few GOP folks believe it is.

Bob could be the Ralph Nader of 2008," said Dan Schnur, a GOP consultant in California who worked on McCain's 2000 campaign but is not involved in this year's contest. Consumer advocate Nader is the third-party candidate many Democrats blame for helping George W. Bush narrowly win in 2000.

Rep. John Linder, a Republican who defeated Barr in 2002 after Georgia's Democratic-controlled Legislature redrew congressional boundaries to put the two lawmakers in the same district, said he didn't think Barr would top 4 percent of the vote.

"But in some states that may be enough," Linder said.

"I think John McCain is going to have to battle for Georgia, a state that was a gimme for George Bush," said Matt Towery, a former Republican state lawmaker in Georgia who runs a political media company.

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3% isn't relevant?  It appears quite a few GOP folks believe it is.

Bob could be the Ralph Nader of 2008," said Dan Schnur, a GOP consultant in California who worked on McCain's 2000 campaign but is not involved in this year's contest. Consumer advocate Nader is the third-party candidate many Democrats blame for helping George W. Bush narrowly win in 2000.

Rep. John Linder, a Republican who defeated Barr in 2002 after Georgia's Democratic-controlled Legislature redrew congressional boundaries to put the two lawmakers in the same district, said he didn't think Barr would top 4 percent of the vote.

"But in some states that may be enough," Linder said.

"I think John McCain is going to have to battle for Georgia, a state that was a gimme for George Bush," said Matt Towery, a former Republican state lawmaker in Georgia who runs a political media company.

No, it's not relevant, as the poll results so far indicate.  I doubt Barr gets any significant number of votes and definitely don't think he will swing election results.  I can see an argument for a small impact in Georgia, where he couldn't win a Congressional election, but outside of that his appeal is about zero IMO. 

[youandme]

Nader will be taking away potential Obama's votes anyhow, haha.

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No, it's not relevant, as the poll results so far indicate.  I doubt Barr gets any significant number of votes and definitely don't think he will swing election results.  I can see an argument for a small impact in Georgia, where he couldn't win a Congressional election, but outside of that his appeal is about zero IMO. 

barr's single biggest legacy could be handing Georgia - and the entire election - to Obama.

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Nader will be taking away potential Obama's votes anyhow, haha.

Look at the impact barr has in a few swing states:

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barr's single biggest legacy could be handing Georgia - and the entire election - to Obama.

I won't say it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely.  The guy is a terd. 

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I won't say it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely.  The guy is a terd. 

He might be a terd... but if you take him outta the race, mccain is pwning the shit out of obama in Nevada and Georgia.

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He might be a terd... but if you take him outta the race, mccain is pwning the shit out of obama in Nevada and Georgia.

I'll believe it when I see it.  I doubt the Libertarian party has ever had a significant impact on a presidential race and Barr isn't the kind of candidate who will be a game changer like Perot. 

[The Coach]

LOL......who?

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LOL......who?

They guy who might hand 3 or 4 states to Obama.  You should read up on him Joe.. chances are, you agree with him on about 98% of issues.

His only major difference from Mccain?  He doesn't like the big borrowing, big govt, and big war expansion.  He still likes to keep our bases and big defense spending.  He's almost perfect for ya, Joe.  Oh, and he's much friendly on HRT prescripts too lol...

[The Coach]

They guy who might hand 3 or 4 states to Obama.  You should read up on him Joe.. chances are, you agree with him on about 98% of issues.

His only major difference from Mccain?  He doesn't like the big borrowing, big govt, and big war expansion.  He still likes to keep our bases and big defense spending.  He's almost perfect for ya, Joe.  Oh, and he's much friendly on HRT prescripts too lol...

I did read up on him......his 1% is incredible.

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I did read up on him......his 1% is incredible.

Joe, he's getting 10 and 11% in some states.

His voters are people to the RIGHT of Mccain.  It's very possible that 3 to 10% in those states could giftwrap it for Obama.

[The Coach]

Summary of Results

 Colorado
 Florida
 Ohio
 Pennsylvania
 Virginia
 
John McCain 46% (49%)
 48% (48%)
 51% (48%)
 45% (45%)
 49% (48%)
 
Barack Obama 49% (48%)
 48% (46%)
 44% (43%)
 47% (48%)
 47% (47%)
 
Bob Barr 2%
 0%
 0%
 1%
 1%
Ralph Nader 0%
 2%
 1%
 1%
 1%
 
Cynthia McKinney 0%
 0%
 0%
 na
 0%
 
Not Sure 2%
 2%
 3%
 7%
 2%
 

(Note: Numbers in parentheses indicate pre-convention Rasmussen Reports polling: Aug. 12 survey for Virginia; Aug. 13 for Colorado; Aug. 18 for Florida and Ohio; and Aug. 19 for Pennsylvania.)

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If Kerry or Gore had that 1% in those states, he'd have won.

you ignore NV and georgia.