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Possibly the end ???
« on: September 08, 2008, 07:37:49 PM »
CERN project LHC switching on at 3:30 A.M.  Any thoughts ???  "Google CERN"


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The Large Hadron Collider — designed to replicate conditions in the universe immediately after the Big Bang and due to be switched on at 3:30 AM was challenged by a last-minute lawsuit at the European Court for Human Rights.

Opponents of the Collider are afraid its ability to smash atoms at such high speeds that it will generate temperatures of one trillion degrees centigrade will create a mini-black hole that could “tear the earth apart,” reports the Telegraph.

Opponents of the project had hoped to obtain an injunction from the European Court of Human Rights that would block the collider from being turned on at all, but the court rejected the application on Friday morning. However, the court will rule on allegations that the experiment violates the right to life under the European Convention of Human Rights.

Here’s the case against the collider by Professor Otto Rössler, a German chemist at the Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen:

CERN itself has admitted that mini black holes could be created when the particles collide, but they don’t consider this a risk.

My own calculations have shown that it is quite plausible that these little black holes survive and will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside. I have been calling for CERN to hold a safety conference to prove my conclusions wrong but they have not been willing.

We submitted this application to the European Court of Human Rights as we do not believe the scientists at CERN are taking all the precautions they should be in order to protect human life.”

CERN conducted a safety review and concluded there is “little chance” the collider could create black holes that could endanger the earth.

Meanwhile, environmentalists in Hawaii have filed suit in federal court in the U.S., seeking to delay the switch-flip. The case was to be heard Tuesday.

CERN’s defense, from spokesman James Gillies:

The Large Hadron Collider will not be producing anything that does not already happen routinely in nature due to cosmic rays. If they were dangerous we would know about it already. We are now concentrating on firing the first beams around the collider and then on fine tuning it until we can get collisions, when the science will start.


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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 08:38:31 PM »
It's always scary, for lack of a better word, when something is going on that we don't understand.

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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 08:40:04 PM »
I'm scurrred.


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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2008, 03:13:38 PM »
minature black holes last only but a millionth of a second...

its no biggie...

some of the smartest minds on the planet are working at CERN..

it amazes that people voted for bush in hordes all the while being concerned about science they dont understand..

i dont claim to either but from what i've read and gathered...they r no biggie

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=7362




There is a rule in physics that says that the smaller the black hole, the quicker the evaporation. For an LHC-style black hole, estimated to be only a billionth of a billionth of a meter across (an atto-meter) the black hole would exist for a bit more than a few billion-billion-billionths of a second. It wouldn't be around long enough to swallow any nearby matter and would pose no danger to ordinary matter
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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2008, 12:17:09 AM »
Looks like we made it  8)
No doubt about it...

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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2008, 07:57:42 AM »
"This is the end my beautiful friend"

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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2008, 07:59:51 AM »
All hype and geeks
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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2008, 12:51:21 PM »
Questions and answers about the CERN collider
 

GENEVA — The Large Hadron Collider was built to help scientists learn more about the nature of the universe and the origins of all matter. Following are questions and answers about what the Large Hadron Collider could — and won't — reveal.
Question: What is the Large Hadron Collider?

Answer: It is the world's most powerful particle accelerator. It is buried inside a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the earth and surrounded by massive detectors.

Q: What does "hadron" refer to?

A: It is a particle — such as a proton or neutron — that is found in the nucleus of an atom.


Q: Who built the collider and how much did it cost?

A: The project was conceived in 1984 by scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN. The organization's 20 member nations along with observer countries like the United States and Japan have contributed some US$10 billion toward the project.

Q: How does the collider work?

A: The collider fires protons around the tunnel at near light speed — almost 300,000 kilometers (over 186,000 miles) per second. Supercooled magnets guide the protons in opposite directions around a near-vacuum until they collide at four points inside the tunnel.

Q: What do the detectors do?

A: As protons collide, the detectors will search for evidence of extra dimensions to the three of space and one of time that we know of.

They will also look for the "dark matter" believed to make up most of the universe, antimatter that mirrors all known matter, and the elusive Higgs-boson particle, which could explain how all other particles get their mass. All of these have previously only been theorized, but not confirmed.

Q: What about the "Big Bang" part of the experiment?

A: One of the detectors will smash together lead ions to simulate conditions shortly after the Big Bang, which is believed to have started the universe 13.7 billion years ago. Scientists hope to learn from this how matter was formed.

Q: What else do scientists hope to learn?

A: If the collider proves the existence of new particles, it could test the dominant physics hypotheses of "string theory," which seeks to reconcile quantum mechanics and gravity in an all-encompassing formula.

Q: Is the experiment safe?

A: Some people have objected to the collider because they fear it could create black holes or release massive amounts of energy that would destroy the planet. CERN and leading particle physicists insist there is no danger. Other scientists have calculated the odds of this happening as too minute to worry about. This hasn't stopped bookmakers from taking bets on whether the end of the world is near.

Q: Will the collider prove the existence of God?

A: No. The experiment will examine what happened shortly after the universe was created. It does not seek to confirm or deny the existence of any supernatural being.

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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2008, 02:07:33 PM »
minature black holes last only but a millionth of a second...

its no biggie...

some of the smartest minds on the planet are working at CERN..

it amazes that people voted for bush in hordes all the while being concerned about science they dont understand..

i dont claim to either but from what i've read and gathered...they r no biggie

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=7362




There is a rule in physics that says that the smaller the black hole, the quicker the evaporation. For an LHC-style black hole, estimated to be only a billionth of a billionth of a meter across (an atto-meter) the black hole would exist for a bit more than a few billion-billion-billionths of a second. It wouldn't be around long enough to swallow any nearby matter and would pose no danger to ordinary matter
on the other hand scientists also have a history of doing irresponsible work that ends up doing harm.

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Re: Possibly the end ???
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 06:43:32 AM »
on the other hand scientists also have a history of doing irresponsible work that ends up doing harm.

they r trying to understand the nature of the universe...

i believe there is no nobler undertaking
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