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« Reply #100 on: September 11, 2008, 04:43:39 AM »

Why would you do that?
Because he's a smart guy. He was saying Obama should be president 2 1/2 years ago. One of the first people I heard say so.
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« Reply #101 on: September 11, 2008, 04:44:23 AM »



A world power and number 1 economy in the world without universal healthcare disgusting.


You have no idea what you're talking about
So the USA has universal healthcare my wrong Roll Eyes
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« Reply #102 on: September 11, 2008, 05:47:23 AM »

Universal health care would be a joke here. You have a dude who already wants to take 50% of your pay and now he's going to tack on more for shitty health care that the left thinks its free. Enough with the socialist (communist) agendas. To begin with if he does that think of how many Dr's would be defaulting on student loans and how many more people that want to become Dr's can't. Again, Left = no commonsense.
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« Reply #103 on: September 11, 2008, 06:01:14 AM »

Universal health care would be a joke here. You have a dude who already wants to take 50% of your pay and now he's going to tack on more for shitty health care that the left thinks its free. Enough with the socialist (communist) agendas. To begin with if he does that think of how many Dr's would be defaulting on student loans and how many more people that want to become Dr's can't. Again, Left = no commonsense.
That shows how fucked up the system is, like lipstick on a pig Tongue
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« Reply #104 on: September 11, 2008, 06:02:41 AM »

Universal health care would be a joke here. You have a dude who already wants to take 50% of your pay and now he's going to tack on more for shitty health care that the left thinks its free. Enough with the socialist (communist) agendas. To begin with if he does that think of how many Dr's would be defaulting on student loans and how many more people that want to become Dr's can't. Again, Left = no commonsense.

My country has universal healthcare and it's working fine and dandy. We are also mostly leftists and it's working fine and dandy. We are actually considered to be role models for the rest of the western world for our advanced welfare. Big taxes yes, but I still somehow manage to pay my bills and food and still have enough to travel and enjoy hobbies on with my below average pay. Strange huh?
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« Reply #105 on: September 11, 2008, 06:04:14 AM »

I agree with Candidizzle on this one.
BUT I'm not an american citizen anyway so I really couldn't care less.
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« Reply #106 on: September 11, 2008, 06:08:10 AM »

"Iraq War is God's Will".

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EgwoWVNoic" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EgwoWVNoic</a>

What a dumb bitch.
Funny thing is that the average american LOVES that shit.
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« Reply #107 on: September 11, 2008, 06:11:52 AM »

I still don't understand why people are so in love with universal healthcare.  It's like some people think the government is giving it to them but in reality the government is stealing their money, pissing a large portion away and then providing healthcare with what is left.  Seriously where do these people think the government gets money?  From the money fairy?  A private HSA is much cheaper.   
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« Reply #108 on: September 11, 2008, 06:12:23 AM »

 Who said I'm a leftist? I am actually a libertarian. I don't take sides in this debate because both the Democratic and Republican parties restrict freedoms, although in different areas and for different reasons. I am simply scrutinizing the stupidity of your country's people. Nothing more. And even though evolution hasn't been banned from the school curriculum yet, the legislatures of several stats in the south have considered it. And don't overestimate the capabilities of Caucasian Americans, because although more literate and civil than minorities in general, they are still subpar when compared to other Caucasian peoples like the Swiss and the Norwegians, for instance.

First of all, not my country, I'm European.

Which legislatures have considered banning evolutions? What stopped them from doing so?

Please show some statistics that compare Swiss and Norwegian Caucasians to American Caucasians. You realize Americans Caucasians ARE German and Swiss and Norwegian and Dutch Caucasians right?
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« Reply #109 on: September 11, 2008, 06:13:04 AM »

My country has universal healthcare and it's working fine and dandy. We are also mostly leftists and it's working fine and dandy. We are actually considered to be role models for the rest of the western world for our advanced welfare. Big taxes yes, but I still somehow manage to pay my bills and food and still have enough to travel and enjoy hobbies on with my below average pay. Strange huh?

Which country would that be?
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« Reply #110 on: September 11, 2008, 06:21:29 AM »

My country has universal healthcare and it's working fine and dandy. We are also mostly leftists and it's working fine and dandy. We are actually considered to be role models for the rest of the western world for our advanced welfare. Big taxes yes, but I still somehow manage to pay my bills and food and still have enough to travel and enjoy hobbies on with my below average pay. Strange huh?
My country Australia has some of the lowest taxes in the developed world and we have a great healthcare system.

My cousin had a severe wrist injurie resulting severd tendons and arteries the poor bastard had have all his tendon micro surgery to rejoin them, he was airlifted by helicopter and many return visits to his surgeon.Moneytry costs zero.Had he been in the states with no insurance i hate to think.
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« Reply #111 on: September 11, 2008, 06:23:10 AM »

Which country would that be?

I'll let that be a mystery for a while.
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« Reply #112 on: September 11, 2008, 06:26:03 AM »

My country Australia has some of the lowest taxes in the developed world and we have a great healthcare system.

My cousin had a severe wrist injurie resulting severd tendons and arteries the poor bastard had have all his tendon micro surgery to rejoin them, he was airlifted by helicopter and many return visits to his surgeon.Moneytry costs zero.Had he been in the states with no insurance i hate to think.

That's cool, very nice when universal healthcare steps in and helps those who wouldn't be able to afford it otherwise. But my gosh, according to The Coach, leftish politics sucks all the money out of your pocket!! How on earth do you pay for your other expenses???
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« Reply #113 on: September 11, 2008, 06:29:18 AM »

He's a great actor, but I really don't care who he likes and dislikes. His opinion, nor that of any other actor, could ever sway my own way of thinking...
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« Reply #114 on: September 11, 2008, 06:36:14 AM »

Universal health care would be a joke here. You have a dude who already wants to take 50% of your pay


Joe, be honest.

He wants to take 50% of YOUR pay.

For those of us making under $100,000.... Obama will actually save us some money.

www.ObamaTaxCut.com



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« Reply #115 on: September 11, 2008, 06:37:14 AM »

I agree with Candidizzle on this one.
BUT I'm not an american citizen anyway so I really couldn't care less.

Well a moral imposing religious nut as the potential leader of the most powerful nation in the world should ring some alarm bells by anyone.
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« Reply #116 on: September 11, 2008, 06:47:31 AM »

I'll let that be a mystery for a while.

Why? Because you know that your health care system is having serious problems and you don't want anyone messing up your argument?

Look, Universal Health Care is a bad idea, and I'll explain why.

Let's say you have a gas station, one day you decide your going to give away gas for free, what is going to happen? Your going to have people lining around the block to get your gas whether they need it or not. This is basic supply and demand. Since you have now created unlimited demand, you are unable to keep up the supply. So you have to either: have people wait in line for a long time, deny people gasoline, or do both.

Healthcare is subject to the laws of supply and demand as well. If you make it "free" then you create a huge surge in demand because people have no need to have any discretion. So countries that have this system have to do is have people wait (these countries have huge waiting lists and you know it), or deny people which happens as well. Who do you think gets denied? People that use and need healthcare the most: old people. Since government has complete control over the system, they can deny treatment to anyone they wish and there is nothing the people can do about it (unless they have a shitload of money and can get treated in the US).

Another problem with government run healthcare is that it is run by the government. Government is wasteful and inefficient, they are terrible at providing services compared to the private sector. This is mainly because if your a private organization and your inefficient and wasteful then you go bankrupt! If government is inefficient and wasteful it is rewarded with more tax dollars, so it encourages general shittiness.

If you look at cancer survival rates among American's and countries, you'll find that America is on the top. American men have a 5 year survival rate of 66 percent versus 47 percent for European men (http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba596/) This is because American men have more treatment options and are treated faster than European men. This is because American men aren't denied treatment and American men are treated much faster than European men, and yes ALL American men are treated, nobody is denied treatment in the US, even illegal aliens.
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« Reply #117 on: September 11, 2008, 06:52:35 AM »


Joe, be honest.

He wants to take 50% of YOUR pay.

For those of us making under $100,000.... Obama will actually save us some money.

www.ObamaTaxCut.com



Big problem with that chart is that the bottom 50% of income earners pay only about 4% of the Federal tax burden. So what exactly is getting cut? They're not paying any taxes! When you factor things like EIC into that, hell they're not only not paying taxes but they're getting free money, and where is that money coming from? The producers in the economy. This is just a ploy to redistribute more money from the top earners to the losers on the bottom.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right 240?
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« Reply #118 on: September 11, 2008, 06:54:28 AM »

it's not fair, but it's reality.

yes, it's taking money from the top 5%, and giving it to the bottom 95%.

if youre not in the top 5%, most won't mind.  many would rather have an extra grand per year than keep it fair.  sad but reality.
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« Reply #119 on: September 11, 2008, 06:57:46 AM »

Why? Because you know that your health care system is having serious problems and you don't want anyone messing up your argument?

Look, Universal Health Care is a bad idea, and I'll explain why.

Let's say you have a gas station, one day you decide your going to give away gas for free, what is going to happen? Your going to have people lining around the block to get your gas whether they need it or not. This is basic supply and demand. Since you have now created unlimited demand, you are unable to keep up the supply. So you have to either: have people wait in line for a long time, deny people gasoline, or do both.

Healthcare is subject to the laws of supply and demand as well. If you make it "free" then you create a huge surge in demand because people have no need to have any discretion. So countries that have this system have to do is have people wait (these countries have huge waiting lists and you know it), or deny people which happens as well. Who do you think gets denied? People that use and need healthcare the most: old people. Since government has complete control over the system, they can deny treatment to anyone they wish and there is nothing the people can do about it (unless they have a shitload of money and can get treated in the US).

Another problem with government run healthcare is that it is run by the government. Government is wasteful and inefficient, they are terrible at providing services compared to the private sector. This is mainly because if your a private organization and your inefficient and wasteful then you go bankrupt! If government is inefficient and wasteful it is rewarded with more tax dollars, so it encourages general shittiness.

If you look at cancer survival rates among American's and countries, you'll find that America is on the top. American men have a 5 year survival rate of 66 percent versus 47 percent for European men (http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba596/) This is because American men have more treatment options and are treated faster than European men. This is because American men aren't denied treatment and American men are treated much faster than European men, and yes ALL American men are treated, nobody is denied treatment in the US, even illegal aliens.

It's not free numbnuts!

It has been privatized, making it adhere to free market mechanics. +- 80 a month guarantuess every citizen of holland proper healthcare.

How people have the audacity to say it doesn't work is beyond idiocy. Many europeans countries have proven the opposite for long.

And btw Coach, this has jack all to do with communism, you should not confuse it with socialism, but hey that would require you to read.
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« Reply #120 on: September 11, 2008, 07:01:51 AM »

Why? Because you know that your health care system is having serious problems and you don't want anyone messing up your argument?

Look, Universal Health Care is a bad idea, and I'll explain why.

Let's say you have a gas station, one day you decide your going to give away gas for free, what is going to happen? Your going to have people lining around the block to get your gas whether they need it or not. This is basic supply and demand. Since you have now created unlimited demand, you are unable to keep up the supply. So you have to either: have people wait in line for a long time, deny people gasoline, or do both.

Healthcare is subject to the laws of supply and demand as well. If you make it "free" then you create a huge surge in demand because people have no need to have any discretion. So countries that have this system have to do is have people wait (these countries have huge waiting lists and you know it), or deny people which happens as well. Who do you think gets denied? People that use and need healthcare the most: old people. Since government has complete control over the system, they can deny treatment to anyone they wish and there is nothing the people can do about it (unless they have a shitload of money and can get treated in the US).

Another problem with government run healthcare is that it is run by the government. Government is wasteful and inefficient, they are terrible at providing services compared to the private sector. This is mainly because if your a private organization and your inefficient and wasteful then you go bankrupt! If government is inefficient and wasteful it is rewarded with more tax dollars, so it encourages general shittiness.

If you look at cancer survival rates among American's and countries, you'll find that America is on the top. American men have a 5 year survival rate of 66 percent versus 47 percent for European men (http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba596/) This is because American men have more treatment options and are treated faster than European men. This is because American men aren't denied treatment and American men are treated much faster than European men, and yes ALL American men are treated, nobody is denied treatment in the US, even illegal aliens.

You're right about a few things. Yes, sometimes the waiting lists can get long. Yes the goverment are awful at doing business. Cool that the U.S has the best cancer survival %.

The supply and demand argument really doesn't have any credibility behind it. People don't become hypocondric just because there is universal healthcare. When people are sick, they ARE sick. And I would like to claim that universal healthcare does a much better job at preventing sickness than a insurance based does.

Why don't you look at the classic list over % of infant deaths? U.S is close the the bottom and I think you'll find my country in the top 2. A list that is considered by many to be a true testament to the overall health in a country.

Oh and wait. isn't there like 50 MILLION people in the U.S without a health insurance. I guess they're not important, who cares if they get sick. As long it doesn't cost anyone more dollars. You whine about waiting lists, well 50 million people in the U.S doesn't even have a list to be put on.
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« Reply #121 on: September 11, 2008, 07:08:06 AM »

Newsflash: Just because state run healthcare works in Sweeden or Barbados or Luxemburg, doesn't mean it will work in America. America's dense population, humongous amount of illegal immagrints and already existing socialized healthcare program (Medicaid) will make running socialized healthcare impossible, impractical and unbelievably inefficent.

Could you imagine this dysfunctional, partisan, backward government which can't find its own ass with two hands trying to provide guaranteed healthcare for every man, woman and child?

For anyone who wants a picture of what life will be like, go to the DMV at any major American city, go through security at an airport or go down to your local post office. State/federal run institutions are poorly run beauracratic disasters.

The poorest of the poor have healthare thru medicaid. The well to do can afford private insurance. The middle class simply need a boost in the form of a tax break or some government loophole which will enable them to purchase health insurance cheaper.
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« Reply #122 on: September 11, 2008, 07:10:55 AM »

It's not free numbnuts!

I know it's not free, nothing is free that's why I put "free" in quotations, but that was totally lost on you. Good job of being a jackass btw.

It has been privatized, making it adhere to free market mechanics. +- 80 a month guarantuess every citizen of holland proper healthcare.

So your saying that Holland is moving away from a Universal Health Care system and moving towards a free market system. Wow, thanks for making my point for me.

How people have the audacity to say it doesn't work is beyond idiocy. Many europeans countries have proven the opposite for long.

Show me this proof, how have they proved the opposite? How do you measure success. It damn sure hope it isn't measured by cancer survival rates. Oh, and life expectancy isn't a measure of a healthcare system because it involves many factors that have nothing to do with healthcare.

And btw Coach, this has jack all to do with communism, you should not confuse it with socialism, but hey that would require you to read.

What are the major differences between a communist system and a socialist system? Do you even know?

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« Reply #123 on: September 11, 2008, 07:12:13 AM »

that's what i like about germany...everything works great here..ok the taxes are high but therefore everything is done the right way...
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« Reply #124 on: September 11, 2008, 07:18:12 AM »

Universal health care would be a joke here. You have a dude who already wants to take 50% of your pay and now he's going to tack on more for shitty health care that the left thinks its free. Enough with the socialist (communist) agendas. To begin with if he does that think of how many Dr's would be defaulting on student loans and how many more people that want to become Dr's can't. Again, Left = no commonsense.
LOL. You equate Socialism with Communism!? You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you.  Grin
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