Biden: Hillary a Better Pick Than Me

[240 is Back]

Definitely losing.  I don't think it will get better for him. 

you claimed it was over during that rev wright nonsense.

face it - mccain could get cancer tomorrow, or obama could be revealed as a musclim tomorrow - and it'd sitll be 50/50 on election night.

[240 is Back]

Exactly... He should have looked into the camera and said "Welcome to the big leagues."

Republicans have turned into bitches.

she lost her 'tough' card by allowing fred thompson to bitch about how offensive the pig comment was.

a tough candidate would have approached the mic, applied lipstick cooly, then given a helluva speech

[Dos Equis]

you claimed it was over during that rev wright nonsense.

face it - mccain could get cancer tomorrow, or obama could be revealed as a musclim tomorrow - and it'd sitll be 50/50 on election night.

O Rly?  Quote me. 

Face it, Obama could get lung cancer.  McCain will probably live to be 90-plus, just like his mother.

But none of this has anything to do with whether Obama is in trouble.   

[tu_holmes]

O Rly?  Quote me. 

Face it, Obama could get lung cancer.  McCain will probably live to be 90-plus, just like his mother.

But none of this has anything to do with whether Obama The USA is in trouble.   

fixed.

[Dos Equis]

A vote for The Messiah will fix our problems.  He's just like Jesus. 

[MCWAY]

you do realize mccain is 72, has had 4 bouts of cancer, and is about to enter the most stressful job on earth?

plus the VP usually runs again, and she likely would run for the main job in 2012 (against hilary, oddly)

And?

As I mentioned elsewhere, the Democrats unfortunately lost a congresswoman, who died of a brain aneurysm. She was THIRTEEN YEARS younger than McCain.

Plus, McCain's mother is 96 years old. So, if he ages well like his mother, he could outlive a lot of folks in Washington.

[shootfighter1]

Tu, why do you quote a 33.3% chance of dying?
I would argue that McCain may have a longevity gene from his mom.  She is a healthy 96 yo.
His melanoma has been removed, though its a risk factor, skin cancer is easy to treat in early stages with good survelance.

[tu_holmes]

Tu, why do you quote a 33.3% chance of dying?
I would argue that McCain may have a longevity gene from his mom.  She is a healthy 96 yo.
His melanoma has been removed, though its a risk factor, skin cancer is easy to treat in early stages with good survelance.

He also may have the longevity of his dad who died in his early 70s.

His physical ailments relating to to his time as a POW can also be of concern.

[Dos Equis]

you're confusing melanoma with other forms of skin cancer.

read up on the subject.


NT

Yeah shoot.  What are you doing commenting on stuff like this?  It's not like you're a doctor or anything. 

 

[shootfighter1]

I stand by my statement.  Stage 1, grade 1 melanomas are easily treated with mose resection.
Why don't we leave it up to the physicians at the Mayo clinic who gave McCain a good bill of health on his recent exam instead of you guys speculating.

[shootfighter1]

For neurotoxin:

"Melanoma outlook by stage
As with many other types of cancer, the outcome depends on how advanced your cancer is when it is diagnosed.  In other words, the stage of your melanoma.

If melanoma is diagnosed early, the survival statistics are very good.  Most stage 1 and stage 2 melanomas can be cured.    

One of the main factors affecting survival for people with melanoma is the thickness of the tumour when it is diagnosed.  (Thickness is part of the staging for melanoma, so you can read more about it on the melanoma stages page.)  More than 9 out of 10 women (96%) diagnosed with melanoma that is thinner than 1.5mm, will be alive 5 years later. For men, the rate is slightly lower. Just over 9 out of 10 (91%) will be alive 5 years after being diagnosed".

[OzmO]

very true.   McCain should stay out of the sun though and wear 70 spf lotion

[Dos Equis]

And Obama should leave the cancer sticks alone too. 

[TerminalPower]

For neurotoxin:

"Melanoma outlook by stage
As with many other types of cancer, the outcome depends on how advanced your cancer is when it is diagnosed.  In other words, the stage of your melanoma.

If melanoma is diagnosed early, the survival statistics are very good.  Most stage 1 and stage 2 melanomas can be cured.    

One of the main factors affecting survival for people with melanoma is the thickness of the tumour when it is diagnosed.  (Thickness is part of the staging for melanoma, so you can read more about it on the melanoma stages page.)  More than 9 out of 10 women (96%) diagnosed with melanoma that is thinner than 1.5mm, will be alive 5 years later. For men, the rate is slightly lower. Just over 9 out of 10 (91%) will be alive 5 years after being diagnosed".

Thanks for the contribution, interesting read.

[OzmO]

And Obama should leave the cancer sticks alone too. 

Chances are higher for McCain though.

[Dos Equis]

Chances are higher for McCain though.

For what?  Lung cancer?   

[240 is Back]

yeah, mccain's cancer in 01/02 was very very invasive.  he had it removed from his temple. he had some quiet flareup a few months back - we never received any info on the repeated 'head bumps on limo' that oddly accompanied "stay out of the sun kids!"

anyway, JFK hid it while running, Tsongas hid it while running, who knows what else others have hid.  There is no accounabtility system for health and candidates.  You only have to take their words for it.  and yes, their doctors have lied along with them every time, so please don't assign false credibility to what his doc says.  JFK's doc lied about his hodgskins too...

[OzmO]

For what?  Lung cancer?   

I would think chances are higher that McCain develops more cancer than Obama getting lung cnacer.

[240 is Back]

Obama stopped smoking last year.

BB has a crazy conspiracy theory that he's still smoking. 

he doesn't have any evidence of course, but he just KNOWS.

[Hugo Chavez]

you claimed it was over during that rev wright nonsense.

face it - mccain could get cancer tomorrow, or obama could be revealed as a musclim tomorrow - and it'd sitll be 50/50 on election night.

If the election is close on election night, chances are 5000% that McCain wins.  Obama has to be at least 5 or more points ahead in both polls and exit polling to win.  If it's close, it's gone.

[Dos Equis]

I would think chances are higher that McCain develops more cancer than Obama getting lung cnacer.

Perhaps. 

McCain was given a clean bill by doctors who reviewed his medical records. 

Obama hasn't released his medical records.  I wonder what his lungs look like?   

[240 is Back]

McCain was given a clean bill by doctors who reviewed his medical records. 

And historically, we know that many candidates and their doctors have lied about it, with zero consequence.

Hey, it's not like there's any motivation to lie.  Only the job of being, well, the most powerful man on earth.

[Dos Equis]

And historically, we know that many candidates and their doctors have lied about it, with zero consequence.

Hey, it's not like there's any motivation to lie.  Only the job of being, well, the most powerful man on earth.

What evidence do you have that McCain lied about his health and provided incomplete or false medical records that fooled all of the doctors who reviewed them? 

[OzmO]

Perhaps. 

McCain was given a clean bill by doctors who reviewed his medical records. 

Obama hasn't released his medical records.  I wonder what his lungs look like?   

Having melanoma that many times is scary.   On the other side i seriously doubt Obama's lungs are that bad.  Unless of course he'd been smoking 2 packs/day for 30 years.   I'm also suspicious as to whether of not he's really quit smoking, but he could have. 

[240 is Back]

What evidence do you have that McCain lied about his health and provided incomplete or false medical records that fooled all of the doctors who reviewed them? 

I never said there was any, only that there is monster motivation and historical precedence to lie.

You claimed he was still a smoker.  you're a CTer.