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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2008, 08:15:28 AM »
I actually wrote it.  :P
I've written a few like these before.

Summary:
-Falling native European population
-Rising muslim and immigrant population
-native europeans become minorities
-Western ideals and philosophies replaced by Muslim ones

Thanks for your help.  But your last point is incorrect.  They will, and have, adopted western culture.

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2008, 08:57:48 AM »
Thanks for your help.  But your last point is incorrect.  They will, and have, adopted western culture.


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he is right in a way...i wouldn't say replaced but many muslims bring their culture with them
..anyway,religion is bullshit,believing in god is ok but all the shit that's written in all these books are nothing but lies...some hundred years ago arabia was way more developed than europe,hell the europeans even learned to wash themselves and use soap from the arabs...and now?the religion is keeping asia down!without it the world would be much more equal! look at turkey,the only country which is modern in westasia and even turkey would do much better without religion

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2008, 09:26:30 AM »
I wish the USA had a serious Arab immigration problem.  Arab bitches are by far the hottest IMO.  There's just not enought of them.  I wish we could trade a few million Mexicans for some Arabs and Persians. 

Yea they are hot till they take that robe off their head
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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2008, 09:27:47 AM »
Yea they are hot till they take that robe off their head

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2008, 10:35:42 AM »
Where will you move next, racist? Or will you just end it all...soon?

I love how if anyone ever has a problem with the behavior of a specific ethinc group fags like this jump their $hit. They never even attempt to debate, examine or defend the real issue at hand.  Just personal insults, that's all they got... ::)

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2008, 12:19:03 PM »
I love how if anyone ever has a problem with the behavior of a specific ethinc group fags like this jump their $hit. They never even attempt to debate, examine or defend the real issue at hand.  Just personal insults, that's all they got... ::)

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2008, 12:31:41 PM »
So I have been back for a little over a month in Germany and all I see are fucking Arabs...2 weeks ago a crazy Arab tried to stab my friend to death with a broken bottle. Some other Arabs stole stuff from his flat (where I am staying). A few years back whilst living in France my flat was broken into by Arabs and I was assaulted by a bunch of them in Paris; another friend of mine was tied up and beaten up by Arabs in his own flat in Brussels some years back. Everywhere I look there are fucking menacing Arabs committing crimes left and right; at least Mexicans keep vegetable prices low in the states; the Arabs mooch off the social state and rob, brutalise and kill Europeans. Is it too late to save Europe?

Discuss...

Geeshh. Well at least you made it out alive. You having second thoughts about living where your living at now?

I think it is too late to save Europe, they have already taken over long ago. I heard on a news channel that some British politicians are actually going to run on a anti-muslims platform, to regain their rights.



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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2008, 12:43:22 PM »
Geeshh. Well at least you made it out alive. You having second thoughts about living where your living at now?

I think it is too late to save Europe, they have already taken over long ago. I heard on a news channel that some British politicians are actually going to run on a anti-muslims platform, to regain their rights.




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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2008, 01:04:20 PM »
You are confusing westernization with modernization. All this means is that the youth listen to hip-hop, eat at McDonalds and own cell-phones. The ideas of acceptance, tolerance, freedom of speech and action are not adopted as is evidenced across the globe in areas with large muslim populations and especially in Europe. Doesn't mean much as they butcher jews, homosexuals and women while nodding their heads to the newest 50 cent track- chow down on McDonalds after dark on ramadan while roving the streets looking for more victims and show live beheadings to their friends and class mates on their cell-phones.

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2008, 01:08:46 PM »
You are confusing westernization with modernization. All this means is that the youth listen to hip-hop, eat at McDonalds and own cell-phones. The ideas of acceptance, tolerance, freedom of speech and action are not adopted as is evidenced across the globe in areas with large muslim populations and especially in Europe. Doesn't mean much as they butcher jews, homosexuals and women while nodding their heads to the newest 50 cent track- chow down on McDonalds after dark on ramadan while roving the streets looking for more victims and show live beheadings to their friends and class mates on their cell-phones.

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2008, 02:51:33 PM »
Will "Europe" as we know it be destroyed before I get a chance to come visit?  ???  >:(
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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2008, 07:27:27 PM »
Yea they are hot till they take that robe off their head
Don't get me wrong, the ugly ones are FUGLY, but the hot ones are smokin hot. 

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2008, 09:18:05 PM »
The better question (imntbho) is will be cowardly enough to allow it to happen?
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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2008, 04:14:42 AM »
Will "Europe" as we know it be destroyed before I get a chance to come visit?  ???  >:(

You can visit right now...just be sure to memorise the 5 pillars of Islam...
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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2008, 04:19:26 AM »
You can visit right now...just be sure to memorise the 5 pillars of Islam...
Perhaps one of those Arabs will put a burner to your dome and end it all for you, thereby freeing us of your worthless threads.
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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2008, 04:44:30 AM »
SUPREME BEING, I agree with your stance, muslim Pakis have ruined it for a lot of other brown skinned racial groups. Indians and Chinese certainly are sound from my experience.

But in regards to statistics you forgot to mention that in the UK the ratio of native babies born to non-native is 2:1 - I can assure you that a very large majory of the non-native babies born are of Paki origin. That's 1 in every 3 babies born. You seriously don't think that is a problem?

Also, what many Whites don't understand is that from a historical perspective it is us who has invaded the whole world. We are the worldwide immigrants creating empires and raping resources from others for many years. You can't keep crying when others now do the exact same thing we once did. We all want to get ahead in life and want the best for our kids, this is why so many are desperate to come to the West.

White's did what was necessary. Muslims invaded Europe, Chinese the Asian planes,  Persians attempted to gain Greece - they're all guilty of WANTING TO DO IT. I'm not going to sit here berating my race because white Europeans were the only ones to do it successfully. Isn't it funny how documentaries "big-up" other civilizations empires... but when Britain ruled the world it's somehow negative, even tho we passed on our government style and formed success in those countries: US, Indian, Canada, Australia etc.

If it wasn't whites, it would have been someone else and I can assure you, whoever that someone else would have been it would have been A LOT WORSE. White European ideals are the most fare that have existed.
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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2008, 07:24:55 AM »
SUPREME BEING, I agree with your stance, muslim Pakis have ruined it for a lot of other brown skinned racial groups. Indians and Chinese certainly are sound from my experience.

But in regards to statistics you forgot to mention that in the UK the ratio of native babies born to non-native is 2:1 - I can assure you that a very large majory of the non-native babies born are of Paki origin. That's 1 in every 3 babies born. You seriously don't think that is a problem?

White's did what was necessary. Muslims invaded Europe, Chinese the Asian planes,  Persians attempted to gain Greece - they're all guilty of WANTING TO DO IT. I'm not going to sit here berating my race because white Europeans were the only ones to do it successfully. Isn't it funny how documentaries "big-up" other civilizations empires... but when Britain ruled the world it's somehow negative, even tho we passed on our government style and formed success in those countries: US, Indian, Canada, Australia etc.

If it wasn't whites, it would have been someone else and I can assure you, whoever that someone else would have been it would have been A LOT WORSE. White European ideals are the most fare that have existed.

I understand what you are saying Nordic, i agree in the past every Country needed an empire, whites being the most successful in recent times. However, certain misconceptions with this fact that whites improved every Country they invaded, this is technically untrue - if you look at the empire, Whites did improve various Countries particular African Countries but they caused a mess in India.

India was very rich in terms of wealth, they had tea, natural abundance of raw materials, cloth, jewellery (even today 9 out of 10 diamonds come from India) and had vast kingdoms. Whites being superior in warfare and general democracy took control by the typical divide and conquer which worked rather well in a land rules by various kings and kingdoms. Maharajahs were told they would receive power if the were to help the invaders and hence a lot of the fighting in India was from Indian kingdoms fighting themselves.

I have looked at our history and i am really going into more depth into our occupation of India but i have too say we had more of a negative effect there. Sure we built the railroads but this was only to facilitate our own trade by taking resources and shipping them to London. Anyway i am digressing from the point here, i don't think the empire should be seen as a negative thing but i do also recognise the need for immigrants who are hungry and willing to work hard to provide a better future for their children. I cannot hate these immigrants coming in but some serious checks should be in place to recognise if they can bring value to this Country.

I understand your concern of ratio of native babies born to non-native is 2:1 but this is the price of globalisation. We have to take into account that many British also emigrate abroad to place like Australia and Spain should these also be viewed as scum?
A lot of people don't realise is this population concern of yours will die out - as other emerging nations keep growing e.g. India and China a lot of these newly arrived immigrants will go back for better opportunities.
Please remember most that arrive here will go back as soon as the opportunities dry up. Look at the Polish as an example, many have started to leave as back in Poland they are begging for workers for construction sites.

My solution to your problem is easy: 1. Vote Conservative and get rid of this socialist labour governments.
2. Make claiming unemployment benefit a lot of harder - makes these people struggle for not having a job.
3. Child support benefits - should be on a scale basis of number of children you have e.g. if not working and you have more than 2 children then you do not get child support for the 3rd child. We need to make it hard for single parents to survive without a job, not easier. When the Pakis realise they can no longer get by with having more than 2 children they will soon revert back to less children.
4. Any person seen inciting hatred should be deported - this needs radical law change.
5. Mosques should be monitored without complaint.
6. Government needs to give incentives and education for ethnic minorities in low income brackets to have less children - this means some sort of income tax allowance if they have less than 2 kids.
7. End all this bullshit about teaching Islam and religion in schools - religion has no place in schools.

My major point being that life with more children should be made a lot harder - i mean a damn lot harder, i have had enough of single parents boasting about the free flat the government has provided them. Once these people recognise they cannot lead a decent life with more children they will cut back.
Also, i am believer in free trade and globalisation as long as every race is hard working unlike Blacks and Pakis. I don't see integration as much of a problem - what is of more concern to me is the effect on Economies - i am an Economist and i am simply interested in higher living standard for myself. As developing Countries grow the world will be a richer place and in the next 50 years you may see a lot of migration from UK to places like India.

According to an August 2008 article in the Daily Mail, 3.7% of children born in England and Wales in 2005 where fully blooded (as apposed to mixed race) Pakistanis, meaning that by 2031 when the UK is expected to peak in population at 71 million,[4] there could be in excess of 2,630,000 British Pakistanis.
This means even in 2031 by the current statistic projections Pakistanis will still only make up 3.7% of the population. Sure that is an increase but nothing spectacular is it? Please take into account that as we integrate to globalisation we generally accepted that the cross section of the population would become more mixed. I don't think we have that much to worry about just yet Nordic.

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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2008, 10:42:40 AM »
SUPREME BEING, India is one of the fastest growing economies on Earth, they will eclipse a lot of Western countries soon if current trends continue. Sure, we the Brits didn't do a perfect job, but if you think their wealth in resources would allow their own governance to develop in what is projected I think that's false. The capitalism and democracy Britain brought to these countries via English Common Law (which also laid the foundation for the US constitution and legal system and also for other countries in the Empire) provided the platform for modern India.

Yes the ratio thing is a result of globalisation which Britain is the main proponent and creator of... but that doesn't make me feel any more comfortable with the fact, I want the situation to be rectified.

Your 1-7 list is sound, except maybe 1. The Tories won't change things, Britain has adopted too much of the EU socialist agenda for any party to remove from our government. We need to take the Scandinavian method and adopt the free trade aspects of the EU super state system, not the imposition of laws from Brussels.

I would add to your list extremely strict immigration policies for the near future. Limit the immigrants from muslim nations (lets face facts, they're mostly undesirables) especially militant countries like Somalia.

Nationalisation via marriage laws (heavily utilised by Pakistanis) should also be made stricter.
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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2008, 01:19:17 PM »
In Italy we have an albanian and gypsy problem.  The albanians are essentially our "mexicans"  they are just looking for construction work.  They are pretty good bricklayers.  Gypsies however are really annoying people that have kids and live like american trailer trash.  They like to pickpocket.   Arabs could never live in italy.  It's just waaay too catholic for them.    Plus, italians  hate all foreigners, they even hate other italians that speak different dialects.  We don't welcome anyone or act politically correct to anyone except americans.  And that's because their bases bring jobs, security and dr. pepper. 

I had the privilege of working in Messina for a couple weeks around 10 years ago.

I was impressed by how friendly and polite everyone was.


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Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2008, 01:28:20 PM »
SUPREME BEING, India is one of the fastest growing economies on Earth, they will eclipse a lot of Western countries soon if current trends continue. Sure, we the Brits didn't do a perfect job, but if you think their wealth in resources would allow their own governance to develop in what is projected I think that's false. The capitalism and democracy Britain brought to these countries via English Common Law (which also laid the foundation for the US constitution and legal system and also for other countries in the Empire) provided the platform for modern India.

Yes the ratio thing is a result of globalisation which Britain is the main proponent and creator of... but that doesn't make me feel any more comfortable with the fact, I want the situation to be rectified.

Your 1-7 list is sound, except maybe 1. The Tories won't change things, Britain has adopted too much of the EU socialist agenda for any party to remove from our government. We need to take the Scandinavian method and adopt the free trade aspects of the EU super state system, not the imposition of laws from Brussels.

I would add to your list extremely strict immigration policies for the near future. Limit the immigrants from muslim nations (lets face facts, they're mostly undesirables) especially militant countries like Somalia.

Nationalisation via marriage laws (heavily utilised by Pakistanis) should also be made stricter.

Holy shit.

An intelligent well thought out discussion.

Kudos to you two.