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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2008, 06:41:15 AM »
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But he said the presence of two Russian warplanes on Venezuelan soil for a training exercise "is a warning" to the rest of the world that Venezuela's allies include Russia and other countries.

Chavez added that, should any country in Latin America be overthrown, he would interpret that to be "the green light to undertake military operations of any sort in those countries, and restore power back to the people."

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Looks like the Russians are using Hugo to play games with the US, just like they used the Arabs to play games with Israel in 1967.

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2008, 08:07:37 AM »
Venezuela's Hugo Chavez insults U.S

Fri Sep 12, 2008

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has thrust the OPEC nation into its worst diplomatic crisis for years by expelling the U.S. ambassador in a growing feud between Washington and Latin America's leftist leaders.
 
Chavez, who calls ex-Cuban leader Fidel Castro his mentor, also on Thursday repeated a threat he has made often to cut off Venezuela's oil supply to the United States.

"Go to hell, s--- Yankees, we are a dignified people, go to hell a hundred times," Chavez shouted at a political rally to thousands of roaring supporters dressed in red.

Chavez is the most radical of a growing number of leftist governments in Latin America that to a greater or lesser degree oppose Washington's traditional dominance in Latin America.

Venezuela has some of the largest oil reserves outside the Middle East and despite Chavez's clashes with the Bush administration, is a major supplier to the United States, which is its biggest customer.

Chavez said Thursday's move was made in support of his close ally President Evo Morales of Bolivia, where violent anti-government protests have killed eight people.

"The Yankee ambassador in Caracas has got 72 hours to get out of Venezuela, in solidarity with Bolivia," Chavez said.

Morales, a leftist Aymara Indian, this week expelled the U.S. ambassador in the poor Andean nation after accusing him of instigating the protests.

Chavez said Washington was behind an alleged plot by retired military officers to kill him and said it had plans to bomb him from planes marked as Venezuelan.

"If there was an aggression against Venezuela there would be no oil for the people or for the government of the United States," the former paratrooper said.

The United States has rejected the allegations by Chavez and Morales. It retaliated against Bolivia on Thursday by ordering its ambassador to Washington to leave. Chavez told his own ambassador to the United States to come home before he was thrown out.

The U.S. State Department said it had not been officially notified of the expulsion.

Chavez was briefly ousted in a 2002 coup that was initially welcomed by Washington. Even after the coup Chavez did not go so far as to expel the U.S. ambassador.

In a busy week even for the outspoken socialist, Chavez allowed two Russian long-range bombers to land in Venezuela and played audio tapes live on television that appeared to show military officers conspiring against him.

He also cut U.S. flights to Venezuela and warned he would support "armed movements" to back Morales in the event of a coup against him.

Chavez frequently calls the United States an aggressive empire and has aligned himself with Russia. Moscow is also sending warships for naval exercises later this year in its first such move since the Cold War.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080912/ts_nm/venezuela_chavez_dc

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2008, 09:38:09 AM »
Loco, did you not read the post you quoted or not understand it?

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2008, 10:02:28 AM »
Loco, did you not read the post you quoted or not understand it?

Which one?  I've posted a lot of quotes in this thread.

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2008, 11:08:44 AM »
why

he's a fear monger.

I don't feel like going indepth about it, basically he is a fear monger and he doesn't ask the right questions to get the right answers.

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #80 on: September 12, 2008, 12:32:26 PM »
  Venezuela has it's army equipped well enough for a long guerrilla war if need be, and they have enough Anthrax, Sarin and mustard gas to kill the American population 5 times over. It's better not to fuck with Venezuela.

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You don't honestly believe that do you?

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2008, 01:29:43 PM »
Which one?  I've posted a lot of quotes in this thread.
your last post to quote my post of course.

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2008, 01:32:06 PM »
You don't honestly believe that do you?


They may give up without a shot. It would take 2 days to reduce their conventional military to razor blades...and that does not take into account the psyop campaign to get their generals and top officers to quit prior to firing a shot.
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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2008, 01:34:43 PM »
They may give up without a shot. It would take 2 days to reduce their conventional military to razor blades...and that does not take into account the psyop campaign to get their generals and top officers to quit prior to firing a shot.
Exactly. There are alot of ways to fight a war.

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2008, 01:39:49 PM »
We never mention these guys because its ridiculous. U never really hear a top American official comment on the guy because he doesn't matter. U want to see how much we care, watch what we do, not what we say. Nobody cares about him. Maybe some CIA agent with too much time on his hands comes up with ways to off him, but nobody really gives a shit. We train most of the militaries in central and south America...we have contacts and basically nobody from outside is going to screw with us down there. People on here would be shocked to knwo how heavily we're invloved...between civil and military as well as DEA etc.
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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #85 on: September 13, 2008, 03:57:18 PM »
It's already been started genius thanks to people like Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura and others who are critical of the tyranny plaguing our country. 

Ok, thanks for confirming we have no hope of a revolution. 

These people you mention are quality people but not capable of starting a revolution.  Hell Ventura doesn't even like Ron Paul, you might want to find some people who would actually cooperate with each other in order to start a revolution.
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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #86 on: September 13, 2008, 03:58:52 PM »
Spoken like a sheeple's broken recorded, clueless and doing more damage to America than any person or group who hates America could ever do.  Wake up fool, your ilk will be our undoing.

My ilk stand and fight for the freedom you pervert.  Enjoy your stay on Mars, comeback when you have the balls to fight for "Right and Freedom"
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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #87 on: September 13, 2008, 04:00:26 PM »
  Venezuela has it's army equipped well enough for a long guerrilla war if need be, and they have enough Anthrax, Sarin and mustard gas to kill the American population 5 times over. It's better not to fuck with Venezuela.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Venezuelans are generally great people.  Their chance of survival in a war with the USA is effectively Z E R O !
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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2008, 07:39:14 PM »
Venezuelans are generally great people.  Their chance of survival in a war with the USA is effectively Z E R O !

Thank you!  I agree to both of these.   :)

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #89 on: September 13, 2008, 09:25:26 PM »
Venezuelans are generally great people.  Their chance of survival in a war with the USA is effectively Z E R O !

God help us all the day a country attacks the United States with a chemical weapon.

We've already nuked one country (twice). So I don't think it's wise to see if we'll do it again.



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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2008, 03:38:48 AM »
God help us all the day a country attacks the United States with a chemical weapon.

We've already nuked one country (twice). So I don't think it's wise to see if we'll do it again.

Maybe, but only the US had nukes back then.  Today Russia, India, Pakistan, Israel and N. Korea have nukes too.  The US would think twice before using nukes today to avoid a nuclear holocaust.  I believe that the current situation between Venezuela and the US is being orchestrated in part by Russia, over the disputed plans to build a missile shield at Russia's door step.

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2008, 03:53:32 AM »
Venezuelans are generally great people.  Their chance of survival in a war with the USA is effectively Z E R O !
you sound like a hitler wannabe with your world domination fantasy.  you also sound a lot like youandme :D  What you don't sound like is a true American patriot.  you're nothing but a 2 bit neocon tool. 

loco, were you going to answer me?  on anything?

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2008, 03:58:59 AM »
loco, were you going to answer me?  on anything?

Did I miss something? 

It's very simple, Hugo.  If you believe that Hugo Chavez is justified in interfering with Bolivia's and Ecuador's politics, then you have a double standard if you criticize the US for interfering with other countries' politics. 

If you agree with me that every country should mind their own business, then don't applaud and justify Hugo's sticking his nose in other coutries' business.

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2008, 05:24:38 AM »
Did I miss something? 

It's very simple, Hugo.  If you believe that Hugo Chavez is justified in interfering with Bolivia's and Ecuador's politics, then you have a double standard if you criticize the US for interfering with other countries' politics. 

If you agree with me that every country should mind their own business, then don't applaud and justify Hugo's sticking his nose in other coutries' business.
Well, you can't even post where I said it was ok to do so.  You just said I believe it is so you could avoid my questions.  So please quote where I said anything of the kind.  Go ahead, find where I said it was ok for Hugo.  What level of interference are you talking about anyway?  I'm not against countries having allies and aiding those allies.  I am against any country subversively working with opposition groups to change government, those are affairs that belong only within the realm of each country and should never be manipulated or aided from outside sources.  We know who the largest source of these transgressions is.  If you're really interested in ending it, best to start at the top, otherwise you have opposition countries forced to operate on the dark side or perish.  If one player is cheating, and the cheating player is the biggest player, no other player stands a chance unless they play dirty too.

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Re: Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2008, 05:56:09 AM »
Maybe, but only the US had nukes back then.  Today Russia, India, Pakistan, Israel and N. Korea have nukes too.  The US would think twice before using nukes today to avoid a nuclear holocaust.  I believe that the current situation between Venezuela and the US is being orchestrated in part by Russia, over the disputed plans to build a missile shield at Russia's door step.


I think that if ANY country wiped out any American city with chemical weapons a nuclear response would be the response.

That option has to be on the table to keep would be aggressors from even considering it.