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« on: September 17, 2008, 05:05:51 PM »
Palin’s E-Mail Account Hacked, Published on Web Site

In the latest of a series of invasions into Sarah Palin’s personal life, hackers have broken into the Republican vice presidential candidate’s private e-mail account, and a widely read Web site has published screen grabs from it.

An article Wednesday in Gawker.com posts family photos and snapshots of e-mail exchanges the Alaska governor had with colleagues. Gawker says the-email account has since been shut down, but it will leave the images up on its site for all to see.

“Here are the screenshots of the emails saved before the account went dark, along with the contact list. It’s newsworthy and we will not be taking it down!” the site declares.

Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain, released a statement calling the publication a “shocking invasion of the governor’s privacy and a violation of law.”

“The matter has been turned over to the appropriate authorities and we hope that anyone in possession of these e-mails will destroy them. We will have no further comment,” Davis said.

The article boasts about the lengths to which the reporter went to verify the account, saying he or she even called a phone number listed for Palin’s teenage daughter, Bristol, which apparently went to her voicemail. The site also listed dozens of contact e-mails from the account.

Both WIRED and Gawker reported that members claiming to be with a group known as Anonymous took credit for hacking into Palin’s account. Screen grabs were published on other Web sites and then deleted, Gawker reported.

They reportedly came from a Yahoo e-mail account Palin uses — one separate from another private account that was publicized in The Washington Post last week.

Gawker complained that Palin has since “deleted” the account, and suggested she was trying to “destroy evidence.”

Palin has faced scrutiny for using her private account to do government business. The Washington Post reported last week that a local Republican activist is trying to get Palin to release more than 1,100 e-mails she withheld from a public records request. The appeal reportedly questions why Palin and her aides shift between public and private e-mail accounts.

A spokeswoman in the governor’s office in Alaska declined to comment Wednesday, referring questions from FOXNews.com to the McCain-Palin campaign.

“Primarily we’re referring people to the campaign because honestly people wouldn’t be asking these questions if she wasn’t a candidate for [vice president],” spokeswoman Kate Morgan said.

The Palin family was subjected to intense scrutiny after she was selected as John McCain’s running mate on Aug. 29. Reporters descended on her home town of Wasilla, Alaska, as the media focused on her unwed teenage daughter’s pregnancy.

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 07:01:47 PM »
No dignity, no sense of moral values, no sense of ethics >:(



In the latest of a series of invasions into Sarah Palin’s personal life, hackers have broken into the Republican vice presidential candidate’s private e-mail account, and a widely read Web site has published screen grabs from it.

An article Wednesday in Gawker.com posts family photos and snapshots of e-mail exchanges the Alaska governor had with colleagues. Gawker says the-email account has since been shut down, but it will leave the images up on its site for all to see.

“Here are the screenshots of the emails saved before the account went dark, along with the contact list. It’s newsworthy and we will not be taking it down!” the site declares.

Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain, released a statement calling the publication a “shocking invasion of the governor’s privacy and a violation of law.”

“The matter has been turned over to the appropriate authorities and we hope that anyone in possession of these e-mails will destroy them. We will have no further comment,” Davis said.

The article boasts about the lengths to which the reporter went to verify the account, saying he or she even called a phone number listed for Palin’s teenage daughter, Bristol, which apparently went to her voicemail. The site also listed dozens of contact e-mails from the account.

Both WIRED and Gawker reported that members claiming to be with a group known as Anonymous took credit for hacking into Palin’s account. Screen grabs were published on other Web sites and then deleted, Gawker reported.

They reportedly came from a Yahoo e-mail account Palin uses — one separate from another private account that was publicized in The Washington Post last week.

Gawker complained that Palin has since “deleted” the account, and suggested she was trying to “destroy evidence.”

Palin has faced scrutiny for using her private account to do government business. The Washington Post reported last week that a local Republican activist is trying to get Palin to release more than 1,100 e-mails she withheld from a public records request. The appeal reportedly questions why Palin and her aides shift between public and private e-mail accounts.

A spokeswoman in the governor’s office in Alaska declined to comment Wednesday, referring questions from FOXNews.com to the McCain-Palin campaign.

“Primarily we’re referring people to the campaign because honestly people wouldn’t be asking these questions if she wasn’t a candidate for [vice president],” spokeswoman Kate Morgan said.

The Palin family was subjected to intense scrutiny after she was selected as John McCain’s running mate on Aug. 29. Reporters descended on her home town of Wasilla, Alaska, as the media focused on her unwed teenage daughter’s pregnancy.


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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 07:05:25 PM »
get into some actual policy facts my freind.
the Dow is having a metdown due mostly to a roll back of the regulations on investment banking.
Guess who voted that stuff in? Their party mascot is a large , 4 legged creature with big ears and long trunk.
McCain was quoted several times saying he was for LESS regulation was the biggest free trader around.
What part of "short selling" with no regulations do you not understand?

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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 07:07:04 PM »
Oh one more lil tid bit on the McCain deregulation record...
the Keeting 5 and Serbains/Oxley .....woops

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Here ya go Bud..........


The Real Culprits In This Meltdown
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, September 15, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Big Government: Barack Obama and Democrats blame the historic financial turmoil on the market. But if it's dysfunctional, Democrats during the Clinton years are a prime reason for it.


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Read More: Business & Regulation


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Obama in a statement yesterday blamed the shocking new round of subprime-related bankruptcies on the free-market system, and specifically the "trickle-down" economics of the Bush administration, which he tried to gig opponent John McCain for wanting to extend.

But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street's most revered institutions.

Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.

The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership. And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but "predatory."

Yes, the market was fueled by greed and overleveraging in the secondary market for subprimes, vis-a-vis mortgaged-backed securities traded on Wall Street. But the seed was planted in the '90s by Clinton and his social engineers. They were the political catalyst behind this slow-motion financial train wreck.

And it was the Clinton administration that mismanaged the quasi-governmental agencies that over the decades have come to manage the real estate market in America.

As soon as Clinton crony Franklin Delano Raines took the helm in 1999 at Fannie Mae, for example, he used it as his personal piggy bank, looting it for a total of almost $100 million in compensation by the time he left in early 2005 under an ethical cloud.

Other Clinton cronies, including Janet Reno aide Jamie Gorelick, padded their pockets to the tune of another $75 million.

Raines was accused of overstating earnings and shifting losses so he and other senior executives could earn big bonuses.

In the end, Fannie had to pay a record $400 million civil fine for SEC and other violations, while also agreeing as part of a settlement to make changes in its accounting procedures and ways of managing risk.

But it was too little, too late. Raines had reportedly steered Fannie Mae business to subprime giant Countrywide Financial, which was saved from bankruptcy by Bank of America.

At the same time, the Clinton administration was pushing Fannie and her brother Freddie Mac to buy more mortgages from low-income households.

The Clinton-era corruption, combined with unprecedented catering to affordable-housing lobbyists, resulted in today's nationalization of both Fannie and Freddie, a move that is expected to cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars.

And the worst is far from over. By the time it is, we'll all be paying for Clinton's social experiment, one that Obama hopes to trump with a whole new round of meddling in the housing and jobs markets. In fact, the social experiment Obama has planned could dwarf both the Great Society and New Deal in size and scope.

There's a political root cause to this mess that we ignore at our peril. If we blame the wrong culprits, we'll learn the wrong lessons. And taxpayers will be on the hook for even larger bailouts down the road.

But the government-can-do-no-wrong crowd just doesn't get it. They won't acknowledge the law of unintended consequences from well-meaning, if misguided, acts.

Obama and Democrats on the Hill think even more regulation and more interference in the market will solve the problem their policies helped cause. For now, unarmed by the historic record, conventional wisdom is buying into their blame-business-first rhetoric and bigger-government solutions.

While government arguably has a role in helping low-income folks buy a home, Clinton went overboard by strong-arming lenders with tougher and tougher regulations, which only led to lenders taking on hundreds of billions in subprime bilge.

Market failure? Hardly. Once again, this crisis has government's fingerprints all over it.

http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306370789279709

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2008, 07:08:52 PM »
wtf? does this have to do with the war in Iraq policy or the economy?

No dignity, no sense of moral values, no sense of ethics >:(



In the latest of a series of invasions into Sarah Palin’s personal life, hackers have broken into the Republican vice presidential candidate’s private e-mail account, and a widely read Web site has published screen grabs from it.

An article Wednesday in Gawker.com posts family photos and snapshots of e-mail exchanges the Alaska governor had with colleagues. Gawker says the-email account has since been shut down, but it will leave the images up on its site for all to see.

“Here are the screenshots of the emails saved before the account went dark, along with the contact list. It’s newsworthy and we will not be taking it down!” the site declares.

Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain, released a statement calling the publication a “shocking invasion of the governor’s privacy and a violation of law.”

“The matter has been turned over to the appropriate authorities and we hope that anyone in possession of these e-mails will destroy them. We will have no further comment,” Davis said.

The article boasts about the lengths to which the reporter went to verify the account, saying he or she even called a phone number listed for Palin’s teenage daughter, Bristol, which apparently went to her voicemail. The site also listed dozens of contact e-mails from the account.

Both WIRED and Gawker reported that members claiming to be with a group known as Anonymous took credit for hacking into Palin’s account. Screen grabs were published on other Web sites and then deleted, Gawker reported.

They reportedly came from a Yahoo e-mail account Palin uses — one separate from another private account that was publicized in The Washington Post last week.

Gawker complained that Palin has since “deleted” the account, and suggested she was trying to “destroy evidence.”

Palin has faced scrutiny for using her private account to do government business. The Washington Post reported last week that a local Republican activist is trying to get Palin to release more than 1,100 e-mails she withheld from a public records request. The appeal reportedly questions why Palin and her aides shift between public and private e-mail accounts.

A spokeswoman in the governor’s office in Alaska declined to comment Wednesday, referring questions from FOXNews.com to the McCain-Palin campaign.

“Primarily we’re referring people to the campaign because honestly people wouldn’t be asking these questions if she wasn’t a candidate for [vice president],” spokeswoman Kate Morgan said.

The Palin family was subjected to intense scrutiny after she was selected as John McCain’s running mate on Aug. 29. Reporters descended on her home town of Wasilla, Alaska, as the media focused on her unwed teenage daughter’s pregnancy.



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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2008, 07:11:56 PM »
I'd do her?

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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 07:12:35 PM »
wtf? does this have to do with the war in Iraq policy or the economy?


It obviously has nothing to do with it Howard........damn dude, I thought you were a teacher?

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 07:13:05 PM »
you want to be a mod yet you constantly break forum rules ::)

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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 07:13:46 PM »
yes and who was president when they rolled back the regs on investment banks? Bush!
Who was president when they rolled back the regs on the sub prime mortgage market? Bush
Who had his sec of treasury ( Paul O'Neal) resign after two yrs because he refused to look at any economic triggers as an effective way to phase in major corporate tax breaks.? bush again
I could go on coach, but geeesh, talk in facts and actual legislation, etc,where do you get your political news? From Rush Limbeaugh LOL

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The Real Culprits In This Meltdown
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, September 15, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Big Government: Barack Obama and Democrats blame the historic financial turmoil on the market. But if it's dysfunctional, Democrats during the Clinton years are a prime reason for it.


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Read More: Business & Regulation


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Obama in a statement yesterday blamed the shocking new round of subprime-related bankruptcies on the free-market system, and specifically the "trickle-down" economics of the Bush administration, which he tried to gig opponent John McCain for wanting to extend.

But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street's most revered institutions.

Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.

The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership. And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but "predatory."

Yes, the market was fueled by greed and overleveraging in the secondary market for subprimes, vis-a-vis mortgaged-backed securities traded on Wall Street. But the seed was planted in the '90s by Clinton and his social engineers. They were the political catalyst behind this slow-motion financial train wreck.

And it was the Clinton administration that mismanaged the quasi-governmental agencies that over the decades have come to manage the real estate market in America.

As soon as Clinton crony Franklin Delano Raines took the helm in 1999 at Fannie Mae, for example, he used it as his personal piggy bank, looting it for a total of almost $100 million in compensation by the time he left in early 2005 under an ethical cloud.

Other Clinton cronies, including Janet Reno aide Jamie Gorelick, padded their pockets to the tune of another $75 million.

Raines was accused of overstating earnings and shifting losses so he and other senior executives could earn big bonuses.

In the end, Fannie had to pay a record $400 million civil fine for SEC and other violations, while also agreeing as part of a settlement to make changes in its accounting procedures and ways of managing risk.

But it was too little, too late. Raines had reportedly steered Fannie Mae business to subprime giant Countrywide Financial, which was saved from bankruptcy by Bank of America.

At the same time, the Clinton administration was pushing Fannie and her brother Freddie Mac to buy more mortgages from low-income households.

The Clinton-era corruption, combined with unprecedented catering to affordable-housing lobbyists, resulted in today's nationalization of both Fannie and Freddie, a move that is expected to cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars.

And the worst is far from over. By the time it is, we'll all be paying for Clinton's social experiment, one that Obama hopes to trump with a whole new round of meddling in the housing and jobs markets. In fact, the social experiment Obama has planned could dwarf both the Great Society and New Deal in size and scope.

There's a political root cause to this mess that we ignore at our peril. If we blame the wrong culprits, we'll learn the wrong lessons. And taxpayers will be on the hook for even larger bailouts down the road.

But the government-can-do-no-wrong crowd just doesn't get it. They won't acknowledge the law of unintended consequences from well-meaning, if misguided, acts.

Obama and Democrats on the Hill think even more regulation and more interference in the market will solve the problem their policies helped cause. For now, unarmed by the historic record, conventional wisdom is buying into their blame-business-first rhetoric and bigger-government solutions.

While government arguably has a role in helping low-income folks buy a home, Clinton went overboard by strong-arming lenders with tougher and tougher regulations, which only led to lenders taking on hundreds of billions in subprime bilge.

Market failure? Hardly. Once again, this crisis has government's fingerprints all over it.

http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306370789279709

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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 07:14:21 PM »
you want to be a mod yet you constantly break forum rules ::)

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2008, 07:14:47 PM »
How can you be certain that it wasn't her own people who did it? 


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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2008, 07:19:08 PM »
It obviously has nothing to do with it Howard........damn dude, I thought you were a teacher?
Exactly he has NOTHING to do with anything that matters regardless of who you support for pres!
1.tell me what you know  about the effects of "short selling" in the current financial markets.????
2. Tell me what you know about McCain's involvement with the Keeting 5 and Serbains/Oxley?
Don't foget it was a new senator from Illinois ( Obama) that actually passed a bill for reformed regs on predatory loans.
The Bush crowd rammed thru a bankruptcy bill that made it possible for major corperations to sell off assets and pay the CEO's big final checks while they could rasie the rates on the avg slob like us as well as make it near impossible to file a chap 19.

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2008, 07:29:33 PM »
It obviously has nothing to do with it Howard........damn dude, I thought you were a teacher?
He's only a teacher so he can spend time with prepubescent teens. >:(
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2008, 07:37:10 PM »
Big rumblings this was a self-inflicted wound done by Rove to stop the free-fall in the polls.

In 1986, Karl Rove bugged his own candidate's office

From WIKI:

"1986 William Clements, Jr. gubernatorial campaign
In 1986, Rove helped Clements become governor a second time. In a strategy memo Rove wrote for his client prior to the race, now among Clements's papers in the Texas A&M University library, Rove quoted Napoleon: "The whole art of war consists in a well-reasoned and extremely circumspect defensive, followed by rapid and audacious attack."

In 1986, just before a crucial debate in campaign, Rove claimed that his office had been bugged by Democrats. The police and FBI investigated and discovered that the bug's battery was so small that it needed to be changed every few hours, and the investigation was dropped. Critics, including other Republican operatives, suspected Rove had bugged his own office to garner sympathy votes in the close governor's race."





In 2000, Karl Rove was suspected of having a videotape of George Bush's debate practice sent to Gore's offices

A Cheney low-level aide ultimately took the fall:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,998233...





In 2004, Karl Rove was suspected of setting up the whole fake TANG documents, otherwise known as "Rather-gate"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathergate

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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2008, 07:45:53 PM »
you want to be a mod yet you constantly break forum rules ::)

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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2008, 09:05:44 PM »
IMO she has no right to do government buisness on a private account.  she should have kept them seperated.

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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2008, 09:10:39 PM »
Palin is even a bigger joke than Obama - when are you right wingers gonna figure this out?  I listen to Hannity and Limbaugh every day try to build her up and act as if the "liberal media" won't lay off her for a second; they seem to forget that radio talk shows constitute media as well!  Limbaugh probably has the biggest radio audience in the US.  Palin can't answer any questions directly or with any specificity!  She's a dingbat folks...don't be fooled into voting for someone because you feel sorry for them.  McCain thought he was going to pull this little gimmick pick over on everyone - and now the public is discovering the truth about Palin - she's in controversy wherever she goes, even in a state like Alaska.  Anyone with a semblance of an IQ will vote Obama over McCain.  McCain and Palin are out of their minds. 

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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2008, 09:12:00 PM »
IMO she has no right to do government buisness on a private account.  she should have kept them seperated.

How else can she maintain secrecy? Her philosophy is that she doesn't have to be accountable to anyone, and that government need not be transparent or accountable to the constituents.

How bloody f-ing irresponsible!!!

Conducting government business on a yahoo mail account?  ::) 
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2008, 09:13:18 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2008, 09:15:00 PM »
/yawn
tired of seeing all the fuckups by your "team"

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Here ya go Bud..........


The Real Culprits In This Meltdown
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, September 15, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Big Government: Barack Obama and Democrats blame the historic financial turmoil on the market. But if it's dysfunctional, Democrats during the Clinton years are a prime reason for it.


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Read More: Business & Regulation


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Obama in a statement yesterday blamed the shocking new round of subprime-related bankruptcies on the free-market system, and specifically the "trickle-down" economics of the Bush administration, which he tried to gig opponent John McCain for wanting to extend.

But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street's most revered institutions.

Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.

The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership. And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but "predatory."

Yes, the market was fueled by greed and overleveraging in the secondary market for subprimes, vis-a-vis mortgaged-backed securities traded on Wall Street. But the seed was planted in the '90s by Clinton and his social engineers. They were the political catalyst behind this slow-motion financial train wreck.

And it was the Clinton administration that mismanaged the quasi-governmental agencies that over the decades have come to manage the real estate market in America.

As soon as Clinton crony Franklin Delano Raines took the helm in 1999 at Fannie Mae, for example, he used it as his personal piggy bank, looting it for a total of almost $100 million in compensation by the time he left in early 2005 under an ethical cloud.

Other Clinton cronies, including Janet Reno aide Jamie Gorelick, padded their pockets to the tune of another $75 million.

Raines was accused of overstating earnings and shifting losses so he and other senior executives could earn big bonuses.

In the end, Fannie had to pay a record $400 million civil fine for SEC and other violations, while also agreeing as part of a settlement to make changes in its accounting procedures and ways of managing risk.

But it was too little, too late. Raines had reportedly steered Fannie Mae business to subprime giant Countrywide Financial, which was saved from bankruptcy by Bank of America.

At the same time, the Clinton administration was pushing Fannie and her brother Freddie Mac to buy more mortgages from low-income households.

The Clinton-era corruption, combined with unprecedented catering to affordable-housing lobbyists, resulted in today's nationalization of both Fannie and Freddie, a move that is expected to cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars.

And the worst is far from over. By the time it is, we'll all be paying for Clinton's social experiment, one that Obama hopes to trump with a whole new round of meddling in the housing and jobs markets. In fact, the social experiment Obama has planned could dwarf both the Great Society and New Deal in size and scope.

There's a political root cause to this mess that we ignore at our peril. If we blame the wrong culprits, we'll learn the wrong lessons. And taxpayers will be on the hook for even larger bailouts down the road.

But the government-can-do-no-wrong crowd just doesn't get it. They won't acknowledge the law of unintended consequences from well-meaning, if misguided, acts.

Obama and Democrats on the Hill think even more regulation and more interference in the market will solve the problem their policies helped cause. For now, unarmed by the historic record, conventional wisdom is buying into their blame-business-first rhetoric and bigger-government solutions.

While government arguably has a role in helping low-income folks buy a home, Clinton went overboard by strong-arming lenders with tougher and tougher regulations, which only led to lenders taking on hundreds of billions in subprime bilge.

Market failure? Hardly. Once again, this crisis has government's fingerprints all over it.

http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306370789279709

Hey Coach, wake up and stop blaming political parties for the world's economic problems.  Both are responsible for the mess we find ourselves in right now.  To place blame on the Democratic party just shows how you're falling for the old division trick used by the people who are really in control.  WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP!  All of these people are financed by the same people, the same companies.  GET A CLUE!  Stop falling for the big diversion from the real truth!

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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2008, 09:20:34 PM »
This will actually help Palin tho, unless something seriously criminal is in the e-mail, sympathy will be with her on this kind of stunt.  It's even possible it was set up to do exactly that.

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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2008, 09:29:34 PM »

You know, McCain didn't just pick Palin up at a job fair or something...  she is the Governor of a state for christ's sake.  But let's look at Obama...  prior to winning the Senate election two years ago (and all he's really done since getting there is "run for president") he was a state legislator in Illinois...  that's not even a full-time gig!  ::)  His day job was being a "community organizer" which is the politically correct term for the guy who's always going on the news bitching about how the black man has been "wronged"...  every city has at least one of these wingnuts.   Of course, unlike Palin, Obama isn't running for VP...  he wants to be President!

Honestly, if you think Palin is unqualified, so is Obama.   Here's a thought:  why don't we flush them both and vote "McCain/Biden" if you want experience.

Obama: Senator for 4 years, not two.

His day job was also lawyer for a firm, and lecturing Law, while working as a state senator.  The community organizer thing was 3 years right after graduation.

He's way more prepared than Palin, but neither is great.

I think an Obama admin would restore faith in the Dollar again.  The world sucks right now - Russia closed their stock market today, it was so bad.

IF Obama got in, the perception would be that there was change coming.  And perception = confidence = everything rebounds.


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Re: The Left Will Stop At Nothing..POS!
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2008, 09:37:42 PM »

He tried both of these things for a very short time, and didn't do much. 

You ever get a resume from someone who had a whole big long series of unrelated jobs, none lasting longer than a year or two?  They aren't really good at getting anything done, but they talk a very good game so they manage to get hired and hang on for a while, and they're usually smart enough to feel when the end is near, so they always move on before they get fired.

That's Obama. 

I can't disagree with you.  But, if he knew he wanted to be a very young president, this is the resume he'd want to have at 47 years old, right?  Over a decade of senate, he's taught law, he's worked law, but still has 'social credibility' from the time as an organizer?  He used everything as a stepping stone.