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We all heard Romney getting caught red-handed receiving verbal cues during the Repub debates.

Will palin be getting a little help from her friends?  I guess we'll see shortly, if she changes her speaking pattern to include pausing every 5 seconds, as Bush did.


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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 09:27:05 AM »
hahaha... pre-busted 8)

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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 09:45:34 AM »
Reminds me of the moment Bush said "Let me finish" when no one else in the room was talking.

I guess we'll see how it works on its test run during the katie Couric interview.  If she takes a deep pause before responding to technical Qs, then answers in 5 second chunks, we'll know....

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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 10:38:17 AM »
Wow, 240.   :o

You really abhor this woman, don't you?

I know you try to post just the news, but man.... this is pretty low for you, bro.   :-\

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 10:39:01 AM »
Wow, 240.   :o

You really abhor this woman, don't you?

I know you try to post just the news, but man.... this is pretty low for you, bro.   :-\

whats so low about it? is this not possible? did politicians find morality and fair play all of a sudden? give me a break


your naivete kills me.

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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 10:42:16 AM »
Colossus_500 ---

Can you please post on the record that you firmly believe Palin wouldn't resort to wearing an earpiece?

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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 10:53:45 AM »
Wow, 240.   :o

You really abhor this woman, don't you?

I know you try to post just the news, but man.... this is pretty low for you, bro.   :-\

I think he tries to push all the anti-Obama threads down on the board into obscruity by posting Palin thread after Palin thread in which not one of them is of any worth.

It's much easier for him to bash Palin with these retarded topics than to try to defend important facts about Obama.
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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 10:55:20 AM »
Colossus_500 ---

Can you please post on the record that you firmly believe Palin wouldn't resort to wearing an earpiece?

lol . . . Yeah Colossus.  Please prove that Palin would never commit this covert act. 

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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 10:58:09 AM »
Colossus_500 ---

Can you please post on the record that you firmly believe Palin wouldn't resort to wearing an earpiece?

Ur loosing it dude...u prove it u CT nut. U have nothing......more bullshit from the CT king.
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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 10:58:13 AM »
I think he tries to push all the anti-Obama threads down on the board into obscruity by posting Palin thread after Palin thread in which not one of them is of any worth.

It's much easier for him to bash Palin with these retarded topics than to try to defend important facts about Obama.


The debates roll around...

If Obama suddenly wore a new hat which covered his left ear, then he flawlessly delivered great answers off the top of his head, which included statistics, cites, and a clever joke...

You'd be the biggest CTer on here, yelling that he's a damn cheater.


This is nothing more than an interesting change in style resulting in one ear being covered.  There is precedent - Bush wore some odd body wiring system, and NBC admits the "He raised taxes" line came directly out of Mitt Romney's mic when he wasn't talking, and happened to fit his next line of answers perfectly ;)

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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 10:58:51 AM »
Ur loosing it dude...u prove it u CT nut. U have nothing......more bullshit from the CT king.

I asked him to state his belief, not prove anything.  You and BB should read a bit closer.


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Can you please post on the record that you firmly believe Palin wouldn't resort to wearing an earpiece?

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 11:02:35 AM »
The debates roll around...

If Obama suddenly wore a new hat which covered his left ear,
lol... YOU BET THEY WOULD BE CALLING BS... LOL...

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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 11:03:42 AM »
And now ur splitting hairs......why would she wear a one...or did she wear one.....same thing. ur like the idiots on the Daily Kos starting bullshit rumors about Palin. If ur scared of the VPILF then say ur sacred.

Hugo I've never subscibed to CT crap on the level of u or 240.....who cares.
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 11:11:48 AM »
And now ur splitting hairs......why would she wear a one...or did she wear one.....same thing. ur like the idiots on the Daily Kos starting bullshit rumors about Palin. If ur scared of the VPILF then say ur sacred.

Hugo I've never subscibed to CT crap on the level of u or 240.....who cares.
piss off.

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 11:14:41 AM »
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...here we go Hugo is melting, ever since he found out his boy has two of the key douchbags associated with the demiss of Freddie Mac and Fannie May,on his staff...u need to relax.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 11:21:10 AM »
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...here we go Hugo is melting, ever since he found out his boy has two of the key douchbags associated with the demiss of Freddie Mac and Fannie May,on his staff...u need to relax.
You need to quit the bullshit.  You know Phil is a much more central figure in that.  He's been named as the second most responsible person next to Greenspan, deal with it and quit reaching for 6 degrees to Obama crap.

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 11:23:02 AM »
Six degress...they're his economic advisors..nice try Hugo, u can't dismiss it and u know it. U know the dems are up to their asses in it.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2008, 11:23:09 AM »
Colossus_500 ---

Can you please post on the record that you firmly believe Palin wouldn't resort to wearing an earpiece?
C'mon, I support Obama but we have no proof or even credible rumor she would do this.
Stary too far off the reservation and you end up getting shot.

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2008, 11:25:02 AM »
Six degress...they're his economic advisors..nice try Hugo, u can't dismiss it and u know it. U know the dems are up to their asses in it.
their role was nothing like Phil's and you know it.  Let's get this out in the open shall we, bring all the dirt you have on these guys and back it up with actual facts.

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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2008, 11:27:49 AM »
On December 21, 2004 Raines accepted what he called "early retirement" [2] from his position as CEO while U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigators continued to investigate alleged accounting irregularities. He is accused by The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO), the regulating body of Fannie Mae, of abetting widespread accounting errors, which included the shifting of losses so senior executives, such as himself, could earn large bonuses [3].

In 2006, the OFHEO announced a suit against Raines in order to recover some or all of the $50 million in payments made to Raines based on the overstated earnings [4] initially estimated to be $9 billion but have been announced as 6.3 billion.[2].

Civil charges were filed against Raines and two other former executives by the OFHEO in which the OFHEO sought $110 million in penalties and $115 million in returned bonuses from the three accused.[5] On April 18, 2008, the government announced a settlement with Raines together with J. Timothy Howard, Fannie's former chief financial officer, and Leanne G. Spencer, Fannie's former controller. The three executives agreed to pay fines totaling about $3 million, which will be paid by Fannie's insurance policies. Raines also agreed to donate the proceeds from the sale of $1.8 million of his Fannie stock and to give up stock options. The stock options however have no value. Raines also gave up an estimated $5.3 million of "other benefits" said to be related to his pension and forgone bonuses.[6]

An editorial in The Wall Street Journal called it a "paltry settlement" which allowed Raines and the other two executives to "keep the bulk of their riches." [7] In 2003 alone, Raines's compensation was over $20 million.[3]

A statement issued by Raines said of the consent order, "is consistent with my acceptance of accountability as the leader of Fannie Mae and with my strong denial of the allegations made against me by OFHEO."[4]

In a settlement with OFHEO and the Securities and Exchange Commission, Fannie paid a record $400 million civil fine. Fannie, which is the largest American financier and guarantor of home mortgages, also agreed to make changes in its corporate culture and accounting procedures and ways of managing risk. [8]

In June 2008 Wall Street Journal reported that Franklin Raines was one of several politicians who received below market rates loans at Countrywide Financial because the corporation considered the officeholders "FOA's"--"Friends of Angelo" (Countrywide Chief Executive Angelo Mozilo). He received loans for over $3 million while CEO of Fannie Mae. [5] Franklin Raines is currently one of Barack Obama's chief economic advisers.

 
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2008, 11:29:07 AM »
Former Fannie Mae chairman and chief executive Franklin D. Raines has agreed to a multimillion settlement with a federal regulator over his alleged responsibility for improper accounting at the mortgage finance giant.

The regulator, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, said Raines had agreed to forgo stock, cash and other benefits worth $24.7 million in exchange for dismissing the charges against him. However, the regulator's estimate wasn't the only way of looking at the value of the settlement.

The agreement includes stock options worth $15.6 million at the time they were issued; those options are currently under water. They entitled Raines to buy shares at prices of $77.10 and higher. Fannie Mae's shares are currently trading at about $29, so the options Raines is surrendering would not produce any benefit to him unless the share price rose dramatically, according to sources familiar with the settlement who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to be seen as criticizing the regulator.

OFHEO said Raines's settlement also includes the payment of $2 million to the federal government. That sum would be covered by a Fannie Mae insurance policy, the sources said.

The settlement also includes proceeds from the sale of stock worth $1.8 million, to be donated to programs aimed at assisting financially strapped homeowners. Those are shares Raines had been fighting in court to obtain from Fannie Mae.

He also agreed to part with $5.3 million in other unspecified benefits, OFHEO said.

Raines was one of three former Fannie Mae executives to settle.

Former chief financial officer J. Timothy Howard agreed to a settlement OFHEO valued at $6.4 million -- $5.2 million in stock options -- and former controller Leanne G. Spencer agreed to pay $275,000.

Howard's cash payment of $750,000 is also being covered by a Fannie Mae insurance policy, and his options are similarly under water, one source said.

All three are barred from receiving compensation from Fannie Mae in the future or from working for a firm that does business with the company.

OFHEO sued the former executives in 2006, seeking to recoup more than $115 million of compensation the agency said they received while Fannie Mae's earnings were misstated, plus penalties that could have exceeded $100 million.

In court papers, the agency said the former executives were unjustly enriched.

"OFHEO's mission is to ensure that the Enterprises operate in a safe and sound manner," OFHEO Director James B. Lockhart said in a statement. "That cannot occur without corporate management providing prudent and responsible leadership and setting the appropriate ethical and overall 'tone at the top.' "

"The Consent Orders announced today represent a satisfactory conclusion to the enforcement actions against these individuals," he said in another statement.

In his own statement, Raines said the "process invoked against me by OFHEO was fundamentally unfair."

"While I long ago accepted managerial accountability for any errors committed by subordinates while I was CEO, it is a very different matter to suggest that I was legally culpable in any way. I was not," he said. "This settlement is not an acknowledgment of wrongdoing on my part, because I did not break any laws or rules while leading Fannie Mae. At most, this is an agreement to disagree."

Howard's attorney, Steven Salky, was more blunt.

"The settlement is a capitulation by OFHEO, reflecting that its concocted claims
never had an ounce of merit," Salkey said in a statement.

Spencer's attorney, David S. Krakoff, said the former controller was pleased to resolve the matter.

"Ms. Spencer maintained throughout this action that the OFHEO reports and allegations had no merit," he said in a statement.

A hearing on the charges were scheduled to be heard by an administrative law judge in September.

The case reached an important juncture in January, when a federal district court judge presiding over related litigation held OFHEO in contempt for failing to turn over certain records for use by the former executives in their defense.

The judge ordered OFHEO to give the executives documents that the regulatory agency considered privileged, but that order has been stayed pending an appeal. OFHEO recently reported that it has spent more than $6 million responding to document requests it said were "overly burdensome."

Raines, who headed the Office of Management and Budget in the Clinton administration, left Fannie Mae in 2004 after the Securities and Exchange Commission determined that it had used improper accounting. The federally chartered mortgage-funding company later corrected its books, wiping out $6.3 billion of previously reported profit.
District-based Fannie Mae reached a settlement with regulators in 2006, agreeing to pay $400 million.

Announcing the administrative charges in December 2006, OFHEO Director James B. Lockhart III said the former executives "improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses . . . misleading the regulator and the public." These charges cover 1998 to 2004.

Raines's lawyer, Kevin M. Downey, has alleged that Lockhart was using the case to advance the argument that Congress should give regulators more power over Fannie Mae and its rival Freddie Mac of McLean.

OFHEO brought administrative charges against former Freddie Mac chairman and chief executive Leland C. Brendsel in connection with a separate accounting scandal. Though the agency contended that Brendsel could have been held responsible for more than $1 billion of damages and fines, it settled with Brendsel last fall for $16.4 million.

That settlement came weeks into an administrative trial before the same judge who was slated to hear the former Fannie Mae executives' case, and Brendsel was represented by the same lawyer who has been defending Raines.

Brendsel's settlement did not include any admission of wrongdoing, and he continued to deny OFHEO's charges.

In the absence of a settlement in the case of former Fannie Mae executives, an administrative law judge would have presided over a trial-like hearing and issued an opinion. However, the judge's opinion would have been advisory, and the OFHEO director would have decided the matter. That decision is subject to appeal.

In the months leading up to a hearing, Fannie's former executives had sought to turn the tables on the regulator by challenging its oversight of Fannie Mae. But in a recent order Administrative Law Judge William B. Moran rejected that approach.

"OFHEO is not on trial," Moran wrote in a court order
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2008, 11:32:55 AM »
On December 21, 2004 Raines accepted what he called "early retirement" [2] from his position as CEO while U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigators continued to investigate alleged accounting irregularities. He is accused by The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO), the regulating body of Fannie Mae, of abetting widespread accounting errors, which included the shifting of losses so senior executives, such as himself, could earn large bonuses [3].

In 2006, the OFHEO announced a suit against Raines in order to recover some or all of the $50 million in payments made to Raines based on the overstated earnings [4] initially estimated to be $9 billion but have been announced as 6.3 billion.[2].

Civil charges were filed against Raines and two other former executives by the OFHEO in which the OFHEO sought $110 million in penalties and $115 million in returned bonuses from the three accused.[5] On April 18, 2008, the government announced a settlement with Raines together with J. Timothy Howard, Fannie's former chief financial officer, and Leanne G. Spencer, Fannie's former controller. The three executives agreed to pay fines totaling about $3 million, which will be paid by Fannie's insurance policies. Raines also agreed to donate the proceeds from the sale of $1.8 million of his Fannie stock and to give up stock options. The stock options however have no value. Raines also gave up an estimated $5.3 million of "other benefits" said to be related to his pension and forgone bonuses.[6]

An editorial in The Wall Street Journal called it a "paltry settlement" which allowed Raines and the other two executives to "keep the bulk of their riches." [7] In 2003 alone, Raines's compensation was over $20 million.[3]

A statement issued by Raines said of the consent order, "is consistent with my acceptance of accountability as the leader of Fannie Mae and with my strong denial of the allegations made against me by OFHEO."[4]

In a settlement with OFHEO and the Securities and Exchange Commission, Fannie paid a record $400 million civil fine. Fannie, which is the largest American financier and guarantor of home mortgages, also agreed to make changes in its corporate culture and accounting procedures and ways of managing risk. [8]

In June 2008 Wall Street Journal reported that Franklin Raines was one of several politicians who received below market rates loans at Countrywide Financial because the corporation considered the officeholders "FOA's"--"Friends of Angelo" (Countrywide Chief Executive Angelo Mozilo). He received loans for over $3 million while CEO of Fannie Mae. [5] Franklin Raines is currently one of Barack Obama's chief economic advisers.

 

care to look at the dates moron...  Now go look up the dates that Phil set things into motion for crap like this to happen.  It's not only this guy but hundreds of guys like him who played by the no rules game Phil set into motion.... now what jackass?

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Re: New Palin over-ear hairstyle to hide listening device during debates?
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2008, 11:35:48 AM »
Obama adviser warned against over-regulating subprime mortgages
As storm clouds gathered over the subprime mortgage mess more than a year ago, Barack Obama's chief economic adviser warned against regulating the risky mortages too much because that could hurt minorities and others who needed the loans.

"Regulators should be mindful of the potential downside in tightening too much," Obama adviser Austan Goolsbee wrote in a column March 29, 2007 for the New York Times.

He cited a study showing that over the long run, people "tend to make good decisions" when taking out mortages to buy a home.

He also noted that new types of home loans like subprime loans historically helped people who had been excluded from getting home loans, including "the young, the discriminated against, the people without a lot of money in the bank to use for a down payment."

He said "it has allowed them access to mortgages whereas lenders would have once just turned them away."

Goolsbee, who is an economics professor at the University of Chicago, cited a 2005 study showing that a majority of home loans to African-Americans and 40 percent of the home loans to Hispanics were subprime loans.  Home ownership among both groups rose sharply during that time, he noted.

"The historical evidence suggests that cracking down on new mortgages may hit exactly the wrong people," Goolsbee said in the article unearthed by ABC's Jake Tapper.   

Look at the facts Hugo..ur guys are as much to balme as anybody...we could do this all day and u'd still be wrong.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2008, 11:36:17 AM »
Colossus_500 ---

Can you please post on the record that you firmly believe Palin wouldn't resort to wearing an earpiece?
It's not really this specific issue, 240.  Who knows, she might actually have an earpiece in her ear.  Are we saying that no other politician does that?  So I'll go on record to say that it's possible that Palin has an earpiece in her ear.  Can you go on record saying that it's NOT possible for Obama (or any of the other candidates) to be doing the same thing.  

On the larger scale, I'm just looking at the number of posts you made in the past two weeks regarding Palin.  It's like you hate this woman from your old neighborhood or something.  Like she used to punk you or something.  You usually don't get this personal in the things that you post.  But with Palin, it's like a personal vendetta.    

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2008, 11:36:59 AM »
lol . . . Yeah Colossus.  Please prove that Palin would never commit this covert act. 
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