The Gavin Kane "blast" protocol: GH-IGF-Slin

[Emmortal]

Thought I'd post this, I did some digging and found this and would like to put it up for discussion.  There some things in it I dont' personally agree with (such as not using T3 which has been proven needed with GH usage due to thryoid shutdown) but it does have some interesting things about it.  I've been following a similar protocol PWO for the past month now and have gotten some excellent results.  I haven't tried running IGF and Slin 3x a day, but I might try that in a few months when I'm back on Slin.  Anyway, here it is, comments?:

I highly recommend using a minimal schedule for all short chain sequence peptides, which include igf, insulin and even gh. I recommend using no more than 3 days per week, 2 days is fine, but no more than 3. The reason for this is that we are trying to prevent cell over-saturation and closure. All three products should be used in a similar manner.

The protocol is as follows; inject all products post workout, preferably after training large muscle groups which cause the most glycogen depletion, hence providing faster uptake of peptides. A sample layout is to inject Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

Immediately post-workout inject 10-15iu of growth hormone IM, using a insulin pin and inject in any small muscle group such as delts, triceps, or biceps. Wait 20 minutes for the half-life clearance and conversion to igf to begin its sequence from the growth hormone and then inject a small dose of igf to create a synergistic super charge of the conversion process. I would recommend no more than 30mcg at this time. 10 minutes later you will take Humalog insulin only, and inject 5iu. I recommend starting with 5iu because Humalog has a very rapid onset and is easy to control with sugar. In conjunction with igf, you will be hyper-sensitive to insulin so start small and slowly work your way up to a maximum dose of 12iu post-workout. You will want to have around 80-100 grams of simple sugars such as dextrose and grape juice and an additional 60 grams of whey protein at the same time as your insulin. You will then eat another moderate glycemic index meal one hour after your high glycemic shake.

The reason for the high dose growth hormone is to take what would normally be your one week intake of gh and spread it out into 3 equal doses, injected pwo. This will create a truly anabolic rich environment and you will also benefit from full uptake due to your pwo depleted state.
So there is our post-workout regime, 3 days per week. Certainly you should take more than this, shouldn’t you? For most lifters, this protocol will be sufficient for growth. For someone with at least 6 months of gh use, 5 or more cycles of insulin and who no longer responds to typical igf protocols, the following regime may be followed: In addition to the above outline post-workout method, you may add additional doses of igf as well as insulin on the same day as your post-workout injection.

I would highly recommend you take 15mcg igf an additional two times per day. By taking less igf more often you will prevent cell over-saturation as well as receptor down-regulation. Creating a cell rich environment that saturates the cells infrequently will target massive cell proliferation. In addition you will take insulin 20 minutes after the igf on those 2 additional injections creating an anabolic rich environment that will last all day, 3 days per week.
For a sample protocol for someone that works out after work, I would recommend you do the following: Take 15mcg upon rising in the morning, followed by 10iu Humulin R or Humalog 20 minutes later. Immediately eat a carbohydrate rich meal with quality protein and low fat such as bananas, oatmeal and egg whites.
For lunch, take another 15mcg igf with 10iu insulin and have another moderate glycemic carbohydrate meal and protein with minimal fats. Follow the above listed pwo protocol to complete your three time injection schedule which will be used three times per week.

If you follow the outline laid out for you above to the letter, you will put on a massive amount of lean mass with a minimal amount of fat. You will need an anabolic and androgen rich environment to complete the schedule such as testosterone and tren in addition to the peptide products. T3 and T4 will not be necessary on this schedule as your thyroid levels will not be affected.

[tbombz]

I didnt read that. But if your using slin i think t3 is going to be of great benefit. Not only to prevent fat accumalation, but much more so to increase the rate of protein syntheis. And also as you mentioned the gh effect on t3.

Gh-igf1-slin-testosterone-t3.   

sounds sexy.

[Emmortal]

I didnt read that. But if your using slin i think t3 is going to be of great benefit. Not only to prevent fat accumalation, but much more so to increase the rate of protein syntheis. And also as you mentioned the gh effect on t3.

Gh-igf1-slin-testosterone-t3.   

sounds sexy.

I think the bodytype really has a lot to do with whether or not your going to put on fat with slin.  I've leaned out some from using a similar protcol with Slin, but I do know guys who will put fat on very easy with it if they aren't careful.  I can take 20g's of carbs per IU of slin and not put fat on.

[reppin203]

Is this protocol designed for 3x a week workouts? Or do you only dose after some workouts and not others?

[Emmortal]

Is this protocol designed for 3x a week workouts? Or do you only dose after some workouts and not others?

You just dose after your biggest workouts, i.e. legs back chest.

[abc123]

Everybody reacts differently to slin.  I have historically put on fat VERY easily and have had a hard time adding muscle naturally.  Using slin preworkout with AAS puts muscle on me and leans me out at the same time since I only eat carbs pre, during and post workout. 

It works wonders by allowing me to eat a lot more calories/carbs than normal (all around the workout) and not get fat.  The glycogen goes to where its supposed to go...the muscle.

I've eaten as high as 500 g of carbs around my workout and not gotten fat.  Right now I'm closer to 350 g.

[Emmortal]

Everybody reacts differently to slin.  I have historically put on fat VERY easily and have had a hard time adding muscle naturally.  Using slin preworkout with AAS puts muscle on me and leans me out at the same time since I only eat carbs pre, during and post workout. 

It works wonders by allowing me to eat a lot more calories/carbs than normal (all around the workout) and not get fat.  The glycogen goes to where its supposed to go...the muscle.

I've eaten as high as 500 g of carbs around my workout and not gotten fat.  Right now I'm closer to 350 g.

Yea, I'm right around the 400g mark myself (carb wise) PWO. I definitely agree that it's very individual at how you're going to react to slin.

[abc123]

Yea, I'm right around the 400g mark myself (carb wise) PWO. I definitely agree that it's very individual at how you're going to react to slin.

You take 20 IUs of Humalog PWO?  That's 20g of carbs per IU.  Yeah, I think most would get fat on that, but that's awesome you can get away with it.  Definately will help you grow at that level.

What do you eat carb-wise the rest of the day?

[Emmortal]

You take 20 IUs of Humalog PWO?  That's 20g of carbs per IU.  Yeah, I think most would get fat on that, but that's awesome you can get away with it.  Definately will help you grow at that level.

What do you eat carb-wise the rest of the day?

I'm doing about 300-350gs of complex carbs during the day, yams, sweet potatoes, brown rice etc.

[kevinf]

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Has anyone tried Gavin's protocol? and if so, how did it compare to the more conventional gh+slin protocol?