Maher: 'I Don't Trust Americans...They're Just Too F***ing Dumb!'

[tu_holmes]

And the issue for me isn't really Maher, who I think is an idiot, but the "I'm smarter than you" mindset.  Decker has pretty much said the same thing.  Others on the board have said the same thing.  I don't share that view at all.  As I said the start, pretty arrogant.   

Who's to say he's not smarter than you? (I'm not saying he IS, but let's be honest... It is quite possible that he is in fact smarter than you or even me, or perhaps 1/2 of America.

I've often found that people get the most defensive about another person when in fact, the other person is simply saying something truthful... The truth hurts a lot more than fiction.

I've often said that America, and society as a whole is dictated by the "average". The exceptional are often seen as blowhards and "know it alls", but the reality is that people see them that way because they are in fact more correct than the "average" person.

Society doesn't like exceptional, they like average... They like the guy that they can have a beer with.

I have no problem with people not voting for Obama... I get it... It's his tax policy that people don't like... Fine... but please just admit it... Admit just once and for all that the thing you don't like is either:

A) The taxes
B) The social programs
or
C) The fact he's black.

The reality is that if you look at it as far as Obama is concerned:

A) Doesn't really affect more than 3 percent of the country.
B) Some people don't want a socialist country, but yet those people don't seem to be bitching when the Government just told you how you're allowed to sell your own property (Banning short term selling of stocks) which is fucking socialism at the most BASIC level.

or

C) You're a bigot.

So I have to ask, which one of those issues do those McCain voters truly have an issue with?

The fact that this guy goes along with 90% of Bush's policies is truly a big reason to not vote for the guy in any way, don't you think?

[Dos Equis]

...explain?


The Luke

I think people who take the time to vote are typically more informed than people who don't vote.  Those people probably care about their country more than those who don't vote.  They are taking part in the one of the greatest parts of our system.  I only wish more people would go vote. 

I don't believe that a person is "dumb" simply because they support a different candidate. 

[tu_holmes]

How many times are you going to misquote Palin? 

Give it a rest already. If you hate her views or experience, harp on that.

Not crap you and Matt Damon got off of some left-wing website.

I saw the video... She said it was God's will or some other such religious nutball crap... You deny she said it?

[Dos Equis]

On what do you base your conclusion?

I have pointed out with numerous examples why a vote for McCain is an exercise in stupidity.

I base my conclusion that I have a higher opinion of the average voter than you because you have called all McCain voters stupid and I don't share the same viewpoint about voters, including those voting for Obama.

I could give you my opinion (again) about why I will not vote for Obama and why some others will not vote for Obama, but will that matter?  You’re still going to think you’re smarter than the average American voter.  
 

[Dos Equis]

Who's to say he's not smarter than you? (I'm not saying he IS, but let's be honest... It is quite possible that he is in fact smarter than you or even me, or perhaps 1/2 of America.

I've often found that people get the most defensive about another person when in fact, the other person is simply saying something truthful... The truth hurts a lot more than fiction.

I've often said that America, and society as a whole is dictated by the "average". The exceptional are often seen as blowhards and "know it alls", but the reality is that people see them that way because they are in fact more correct than the "average" person.

Society doesn't like exceptional, they like average... They like the guy that they can have a beer with.

I have no problem with people not voting for Obama... I get it... It's his tax policy that people don't like... Fine... but please just admit it... Admit just once and for all that the thing you don't like is either:

A) The taxes
B) The social programs
or
C) The fact he's black.

The reality is that if you look at it as far as Obama is concerned:

A) Doesn't really affect more than 3 percent of the country.
B) Some people don't want a socialist country, but yet those people don't seem to be bitching when the Government just told you how you're allowed to sell your own property (Banning short term selling of stocks) which is fucking socialism at the most BASIC level.

or

C) You're a bigot.

So I have to ask, which one of those issues do those McCain voters truly have an issue with?

The fact that this guy goes along with 90% of Bush's policies is truly a big reason to not vote for the guy in any way, don't you think?

I wasn't comparing myself to Maher.  I don't think he's the sharpest pencil in the box, but he's a stand-up comic.  I have his opinions in perspective.  I quoted him because he illustrates a mindset I have heard and read before, which is often associated with liberals. 

I'm sure there are many people who will not vote for Obama because he is half black.  I'm sure there are many people who will not vote for Obama because of his views on the economy, class warfare, socialized healthcare, his alarming lack of experience, his lack of military experience, his poor judgment, his stubbornness, his views on abortion, his views on homosexuality and homosexual marriage, and a number of other issues.

I don't really care how many "policies" Bush and McCain have in common.  What I care about is whether McCain is qualified to be president, whether I agree with him on taxes and defense, whether I trust him to lead the armed forces with two ongoing wars, whether I think he has the right mindset, and whether he has the right judgment to be president.  I have heard the "90 percent" figure tossed around quite a bit.  I'm not sure exactly what that means, but I think it's a pretty useless figure.       

[tonymctones]

I saw the video... She said it was God's will or some other such religious nutball crap... You deny she said it?

she said they had to make sure it was Gods will...as in make sure we are doing the right thing not ALLAHALLHAHAH lets go cut some heads of some bitches like 240 likes to SPIN...

[tonymctones]

Who's to say he's not smarter than you? (I'm not saying he IS, but let's be honest... It is quite possible that he is in fact smarter than you or even me, or perhaps 1/2 of America.

I've often found that people get the most defensive about another person when in fact, the other person is simply saying something truthful... The truth hurts a lot more than fiction.

I've often said that America, and society as a whole is dictated by the "average". The exceptional are often seen as blowhards and "know it alls", but the reality is that people see them that way because they are in fact more correct than the "average" person.

Society doesn't like exceptional, they like average... They like the guy that they can have a beer with.

I have no problem with people not voting for Obama... I get it... It's his tax policy that people don't like... Fine... but please just admit it... Admit just once and for all that the thing you don't like is either:

A) The taxes
B) The social programs
or
C) The fact he's black.

The reality is that if you look at it as far as Obama is concerned:

A) Doesn't really affect more than 3 percent of the country.
B) Some people don't want a socialist country, but yet those people don't seem to be bitching when the Government just told you how you're allowed to sell your own property (Banning short term selling of stocks) which is fucking socialism at the most BASIC level.

or

C) You're a bigot.

So I have to ask, which one of those issues do those McCain voters truly have an issue with?

The fact that this guy goes along with 90% of Bush's policies is truly a big reason to not vote for the guy in any way, don't you think?

His utopian views, his lack of experience, his gun grabbing ways, his two faced personality, his laughable idea of cutting taxes, the fact that his is one of the most liberal voters...There are so many things to dislike about this guy that i would be suprised if anybody ever got to his race...

[CARTEL]

I saw the video... She said it was God's will or some other such religious nutball crap... You deny she said it?

Palin’s exact quote that Gibson was referring to was as follows:

“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God,” she exhorted the congregants. “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”


Now I am not religious at all so maybe you can help me. It sounds more like she is praying for guidance and not really asking for a holy war. Obama has done the same thing and I don't fault him for that.

[tonymctones]

Palin’s exact quote that Gibson was referring to was as follows:

“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God,” she exhorted the congregants. “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”


Now I am not religious at all so maybe you can help me. It sounds more like she is praying for guidance and not really asking for a holy war. Obama has done the same thing and I don't fault him for that.

exactly...240 is a jackass in all honesty im sure he knows what he is doing when he spins shit.

[CARTEL]

exactly...240 is a jackass in all honesty im sure he knows what he is doing when he spins shit.

I think he hates women 

[240 is Back]

mccain said palin is the most qualified person to be his VP.

Do you believe him?  yes or no?  Simple answer, please.

[Straw Man]

I wasn't comparing myself to Maher.  I don't think he's the sharpest pencil in the box, but he's a stand-up comic.  I have his opinions in perspective.  I quoted him because he illustrates a mindset I have heard and read before, which is often associated with liberals. 

I'm sure there are many people who will not vote for Obama because he is half black.  I'm sure there are many people who will not vote for Obama because of his views on the economy, class warfare, socialized healthcare, his alarming lack of experience, his lack of military experience, his poor judgment, his stubbornness, his views on abortion, his views on homosexuality and homosexual marriage, and a number of other issues.

I don't really care how many "policies" Bush and McCain have in common.  What I care about is whether McCain is qualified to be president, whether I agree with him on taxes and defense, whether I trust him to lead the armed forces with two ongoing wars, whether I think he has the right mindset, and whether he has the right judgment to be president.  I have heard the "90 percent" figure tossed around quite a bit.  I'm not sure exactly what that means, but I think it's a pretty useless figure.       

I'm voting for Obama specifically for his views on taxes, social issues, the hopeful prospect of critical thinking and sound judgement and the direct contrast between him and McBush

It's probably one of the easiest decisions of my life.

To put it in perspective, it's an easier decision that what I'm going to have for dinner tonight

[tonymctones]

mccain said palin is the most qualified person to be his VP.

Do you believe him?  yes or no?  Simple answer, please.

when compared to who? i need the full quote in context as i know you like to spin shit.

Who do you believe is more qualified to be pres mccain or obama?

[Straw Man]

when compared to who? i need the full quote in context as i know you like to spin shit.

Who do you believe is more qualified to be pres mccain or obama?

IMO - Obama is FAR more qualified to deal with the challenges that we're facing due to the actions of the last 30 years of McCain and his ilk

[Dos Equis]

Palin’s exact quote that Gibson was referring to was as follows:

“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God,” she exhorted the congregants. “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”


Now I am not religious at all so maybe you can help me. It sounds more like she is praying for guidance and not really asking for a holy war. Obama has done the same thing and I don't fault him for that.

Correct.  Obama has made similar comments:

He has talked about being called by God:

"The questions I had did not magically disappear," Obama wrote in his recent book, titled "The Audacity of Hope" after Wright's turn of phrase, of the day four years later when he made a formal commitment of Christian faith. "But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago, I felt God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0716/p01s01-uspo.html

He has talked about doing God's will:

Explaining what it meant to him to be a Christian, the Democratic senator from Illinois talked of "walking humbly with our God": "I know that I don't walk alone, and I know that if I can get myself out of the way, that I can maybe carry out in some small way what he intends."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-saddleback-obama-mccainaug17,0,4760268.story

[240 is Back]

when compared to who? i need the full quote in context as i know you like to spin shit.

Who do you believe is more qualified to be pres mccain or obama?

anyone have the quote?

mccain said he selected palin because she was the most qualified person to be VP.

Im' asking if people here agree - is she the most qualified?  More than Mitt, pawlenty, Rudy, etc?

or is mccain bullshittin us?  (and she was a lesser qualified, but higher ratings pick)

[MB_722]

Now I am not religious at all so maybe you can help me. It sounds more like she is praying for guidance and not really asking for a holy war. Obama has done the same thing and I don't fault him for that.

She should have kept her religious views to herself. Let the Religious leaders ask for guidance. As politicians none of them should be asking for guidance from God publicly.

She's pandering God. Butter em up even more 

[tonymctones]

anyone have the quote?

mccain said he selected palin because she was the most qualified person to be VP.

Im' asking if people here agree - is she the most qualified?  More than Mitt, pawlenty, Rudy, etc?

or is mccain bullshittin us?  (and she was a lesser qualified, but higher ratings pick)

without a doubt there are more qualified ppl than her to be VP, and WITHOUT A DOUBT there are more qualified ppl than obama to be pres. If you think he wasnt a ratings pick your an ignorant fuk if he was white you would be pro hillary right now.

[Straw Man]

anyone have the quote?

mccain said he selected palin because she was the most qualified person to be VP.

Im' asking if people here agree - is she the most qualified?  More than Mitt, pawlenty, Rudy, etc?

or is mccain bullshittin us?  (and she was a lesser qualified, but higher ratings pick)

McCain is LYING

Of course he can't exactly be honest and say he chose Palin solely for the purpose of appealing to the Jesus crowd.

That would be putting party before country and that would contradict those "country first" signs you see at his rally.

[tonymctones]

IMO - Obama is FAR more qualified to deal with the challenges that we're facing due to the actions of the last 30 years of McCain and his ilk

I can respect your opinion but let me ask you why you feel that way?

[Straw Man]

without a doubt there are more qualified ppl than her to be VP, and WITHOUT A DOUBT there are more qualified ppl than obama to be pres. If you think he wasnt a ratings pick your an ignorant fuk if he was white you would be pro hillary right now.

how was Obama a ratings pick?

who was doing the picking?

I thought he won the primary.

[240 is Back]

Obama won the nomination because he won more delegates.
Biden was picked because of his experience and very strong foreign relations experience.

I wish someone could find the quote - CBS, I think. 

[tonymctones]

how was Obama a ratings pick?

who was doing the picking?

I thought he won the primary.

yes but why did he win? In all honesty you believe he was the most qualified dem to get the nod? Again if this man was a white male politician he wouldnt have even been in the race. I know thats a harsh thing to say but in all reality its probably true. Hilary was much more qualified and much more electable than obama if she had gotten the nod this wouldnt be much of a race and if obama had chose her as VP like his dumb ass should have this would be a landslide.

[tonymctones]

Obama won the nomination because he won more delegates.
Biden was picked because of his experience and very strong foreign relations experience.

I wish someone could find the quote - CBS, I think. 

you didnt answer my question you think if he was a white politician he would have won?

[Straw Man]

I can respect your opinion but let me ask you why you feel that way?

simple - I have two basic choices:

McCAin:  clueless old man who has sold out everything he's claimed to believe in order to win the nomination.  A man who is more of the problem than the solution.  A man who has demonstrated repeatedly that he doesn't even understand the challenges we are facing as a nation, much less how to solve them.   A man who will pander to people he once called agents of intolerance.  A man who will lie repeatedly and attempt to insult my intelligence on a daily basis (i.e. the fundamentals = the American worker), etc.....

or

Obama:  A guy who I think is really smart, basically sincere in his beliefs and in his attempt to express those beliefs to the American People and a person who I am in agreement with on many social, economic and geo-political topics.